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The ND program has always rubbed me the wrong way. From a business perspective, they are playing the game right by pushing for the playoff expansion. It would nearly guarantee them a spot into the playoffs without having to join a conference.

Hopefully, the alliance builds some courage to the idiots running the ACC and makes them **** or get off the pot. Q
 
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GojiraCane said:
Images leaked from ACC, Big Ten, and PAC-12 Alliance discussions:

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"Sir, the SEC has just invited Texas and Oklahoma to join..."

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"Alliances" sound great and all, until someone breaks rank. If the SEC / ESPN got desperate enough they'd make an offer that someone can't refuse. They better lock down every school with near death penalty sanctions if someone takes the SEC cheese.
 
apparently after yesterday's presser, the new Pac 12 commissioner made some confusing comments when asked again about possible expansion. His remarks led the press to speculate today that the Pac 12 may announce something about expansion on Friday. Certainly something to watch..


Phillips (ACC Commish) was on Packer & Durham this morning. He was asked about the involvement of Jim Delaney, former Big 10 Commish in the talks preceding the announcement of the Alliance. He admitted that was definitely true and also mentioned he is very close to the Duke AD, Kevin White.
There's no question others behind the scenes are involved and advising on future steps in this thing.
 
Hoyacane1620 said:
apparently after yesterday's presser, the new Pac 12 commissioner made some confusing comments when asked again about possible expansion. His remarks led the press to speculate today that the Pac 12 may announce something about expansion on Friday. Certainly something to watch..


Phillips (ACC Commish) was on Packer & Durham this morning. He was asked about the involvement of Jim Delaney, former Big 10 Commish in the talks preceding the announcement of the Alliance. He admitted that was definitely true and also mentioned he is very close to the Duke AD, Kevin White.
There's no question others behind the scenes are involved and advising on future steps in this thing.
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They're all coming out of the woodwork drooling at the chance to layeth the smacketh down on the SEC.
 
I like how all the SEC homers are crapping on it...reminds me of all the other teams fans crying Miami is irrelevant, but their stadium is full to watch us and they tear down the goalposts.
 
Hoyacane1620 said:
apparently after yesterday's presser, the new Pac 12 commissioner made some confusing comments when asked again about possible expansion. His remarks led the press to speculate today that the Pac 12 may announce something about expansion on Friday. Certainly something to watch..


Phillips (ACC Commish) was on Packer & Durham this morning. He was asked about the involvement of Jim Delaney, former Big 10 Commish in the talks preceding the announcement of the Alliance. He admitted that was definitely true and also mentioned he is very close to the Duke AD, Kevin White.
There's no question others behind the scenes are involved and advising on future steps in this thing.
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Am I the only one annoyed by this? Sometimes it feels as if Duke and UNC are running this conference. I’m not trying to derail the thread but was curious if I’m alone on this. I hope our “fearless leader” is communicating and lobbying for our best interest.
 
CaneinBroward said:
It has been reported Texas and OU made overtures to the SEC beginning in December 2020. You don't think the SEC wasn't vetting them during that time? You really think the SEC didn't look to see if Oklahoma and Texas would be a fit until they sent in their formal invites in late July?

The playoff proposal was announced on 6/10/21. Sankey was genius and diabolical. I think you are giving way too much of a benefit of the doubt. By the way, it's nothing that the other conference commissioners wouldn't do if they had the chance.
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Your last sentence is where I totally disagree. Pac 12 and big ten have new commissioners and that is likely a big reason why they formed an alliance, they are both too inexperienced to have their own plan, plus they lack the power or influence to do it. And I don’t think any of the three have the courage to do what the sec just did…they still have a 1950s view of amateur athletics and prioritizing academics and research
 
The problem everyone seems to be overlooking is the enormous amount of evidence that shows the ncaa’s reluctance or straight up refusal to punish schools that are in the sec. If there ever was a reason to play in the sec it would be so the ncaa can leave you TF alone. The evidence and track record of this is just too obvious.

Emmert is going to have a field day snooping around trying to loi everyone in the alliance for any stupid little sht he can find.
 
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Of the 30 largest TV markets in the country, 23 of them are not in SEC country. Yes, Bama v UGA will draw a national audience, but no one but regional Bama fans will be watch Bama v Vandy. If the Alliance got its **** together, it could really improve cfb because it would represent most of the country. Right now it's a useless "Gentlemans Agreement". If they put the deal in writing, the Alliance schools could freeze out the SEC and force changes to CFB. Primarily, they could make a definitive point that college sports are for student athletes, not athletes who are optionally students.

The Big10, Pac12, and ACC all claim to put academics before athletics. The SEC doesn't. If the SEC didn't have Vandy, it would be nearly tied with (and possibly beat) the Big12 for having the dumbest conference in terms of overall school rankings. Nearly all the Alliance schools also offer 25+ sports, the SEC schools generally only offer the bare minimum required by Title IX.

The Alliance teams should refuse to schedule SEC teams unless 1) they agree to limit the number of scholarships will be capped (maybe in the 50s or 60s) so that bag schools can't hoard all the top recruits 2) offer as many sports as the Alliance schools. There is no reason that a school getting $65+ million payouts a year from the conference can't add more non-revenue sports. If the SEC wins on a level playing field, so be it. I have no issue with that. Right now though the Alliance schools have one hand tied behind their backs (academics and non revenue sports) and they are in competition with a conference that has no such limitations. They aren't playing the same game.
 
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Miami[]_[]Smoke said:
Of course you did…and by doing that, you just proved you’re exactly what I said: delusional. Don’t let reality disturb your precious delusions. I love that you bash sec homers, which is ridiculously stupid to think that people are fans of a conference over a school. I would bet you on this topic but you’re way too much of a simpleton d-bag for me to care
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Keep sucking that SEC dlck I know you enjoy it
 
QuattroCane said:
I like how all the SEC homers are crapping on it...reminds me of all the other teams fans crying Miami is irrelevant, but their stadium is full to watch us and they tear down the goalposts.
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You can tell who they are, they are really showing their *** in this thread
 
supacane said:
Yeah and u prefer only 1 mattered. My point is it had No effect on the bowl system and if anything it made 1 more of them matter each season
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Never said that, its the players who show they don’t care about bowl games. It had an effect on the bowl system because it devalued it even more than it was… if you’re not in the playoff, almost anyone with an nfl future sits out because they realize they are glorified scrimmages after a school field trip.
 
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Maaaaaan I'll be completely honest... I don't have enough energy and mental capacity to understand and read any of this. I just need to know, is this good or bad for us??
 
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Page305 said:
Maaaaaan I'll be completely honest... I don't have enough energy and mental capacity to understand and read any of this. I just need to know, is this good or bad for us??
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i only see this affecting our schedule 5 years down the road in that we will play more big 10 and pac 12 schools. It may also slow or delay playoff expansion, but I don’t see much more beyond that. Other conferences may reduce their conf games from 9 to 8 to accommodate more non conf games
 
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