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The # 1 Problem with UM football from 2003 to present

ThomasM said:
It wouldn't have been anywhere near as bad as the last 17 years. Alvarez was a proven coach, and did a good job as AD as well. Meanwhile, look at what we have been since then.
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He would not have been a fit, and he would only have been brought in as Shalalalalala's lap dog. We obviously aren't going to agree about that. I've said my piece and you've said yours, so we may as well leave it there.
 
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g8rh8rMD said:
He would not have been a fit, and he would only have been brought in as Shalalalalala's lap dog. We obviously aren't going to agree about that. I've said my piece and you've said yours, so we may as well leave it there.
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Sure. I don't like Shalala one bit, but if you think Coker, Shannon, and Golden were better than Alvarez, I just don't know what to say anyway.
 
ThomasM said:
Sure. I don't like Shalala one bit, but if you think Coker, Shannon, and Golden were better than Alvarez, I just don't know what to say anyway.
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Sorry man, I'm a little testy today I guess.

I'm not saying they were better by any means. I'm just saying he wouldn't have worked out any better than any of them either. I respect what he's done at Wisconsin, but that's a very different program. Very different. He wasn't going to win the recruiting wars for midwest Oline being at Miami, and if he tried recruiting and coaching south Florida olinemen to play his way, he would have found very quickly they are a different type of cat than the cornfed unranked three stars that turn into Pro-Bowlers he was used to back in snow country.

Just because a guy is a great chef at a French restaurant, doesn't mean he can walk into an Asian Fusion place and knock the diner's socks off.

Anyway, as I said earlier in this thread. We need to play to the ingredients we have available to us, not try to jam a round peg into a square hole. We've got skill talent in abundance. We should be spreading the field from sideline to sideline, running 80+ plays a game and shuffling wr's, backs, and te's in and out of the game constantly, putting up points, having fun, and daring people to try to keep up with the scoreboard while our abundance of pass-rushers feast on exhausted opposing qb's and olines.

We all said it when Manny was hired. Manny even said that's what he was going to bring. But that's not what we're seeing so far. Thing is, we know from the spring game that **** knows how to design an offense to spread the field and go tempo. He's just not yet had the balls to do it in a real game.
 
@g8rh8rMD after 4 games Canes are only 65th in total offense and 2 games were with total scrub teams.

no excuses for Enos and the pathetic performance of the offense. so far nothing but hot garbage compared to what it could be.

2 glaring areas are 3rd down efficiency and serious red zone problems. the red zone issue is made even worse by having
a FG kicker that has problems making 20 yarders.
 
mdpcane said:
@g8rh8rMD after 4 games Canes are only 65th in total offense and 2 games were with total scrub teams.

no excuses for Enos and the pathetic performance of the offense. so far nothing but hot garbage compared to what it could be.

2 glaring areas are 3rd down efficiency and serious red zone problems. the red zone issue is made even worse by having
a FG kicker that has problems making 20 yarders.
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Worst OL in FBS might have something to do with it... How we're doing as well as we are with this OL is a testament to Enos and Williams. Our OL is that bad... We're FCS level bad.
 
CaneDogX said:
Worst OL in FBS might have something to do with it... How we're doing as well as we are with this OL is a testament to Enos and Williams. Our OL is that bad... We're FCS level bad.
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Ok the oline sucks we all know this then why are playing plays that relive on having a good oline. Yes the oline needs to get better but so does the coaching we literally run plays that make them look worse.
 
hurricane94 said:
Ok the oline sucks we all know this then why are playing plays that relive on having a good oline. Yes the oline needs to get better but so does the coaching we literally run plays that make them look worse.
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I think Enos would expect our OL to provide time for Williams against CMU. I think he underestimated how poor our OL actually is... I don't think anyone anticipated not being able to block CMU and the gameplan is installed pretty early in the week. Enos needs two gameplans: The one he wants; the one he has to use when the OL is getting dominated.
 
CaneDogX said:
You realize Enos is new right? First year. He's implementing his offense; not making something up because our OL sucks. We looked fine vs UNC. I think he didn't anticipate us getting dominated by CMU.
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Oh wow is he new??

Yeah, I realize he's trying to force his dumbshlt Belieama looking offense on our personnel which is a terrible fit and explains the horrible start for this offense.
 
CaneDogX said:
I think Enos would expect our OL to provide time for Williams against CMU. I think he underestimated how poor our OL actually is... I don't think anyone anticipated not being able to block CMU and the gameplan is installed pretty early in the week. Enos needs two gameplans: The one he wants; the one he has to use when the OL is getting dominated.
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Then should have been able to adjust if we are paying the money that has been report then he should have adjusted earlier. Every time we went shotgun and used quick passes it work like a charm
. Also we all know the oline isn’t good right now we are tying to force a square peg in a round hole.
 
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DMoney said:
The biggest problem is that none of our coaches from 2003-2018 are currently employed as head coaches.

The only one who even got another head coaching job was Coker at UTSA. And he had a title on his resume.
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An even bigger problem is that miami doesnt pay the type of money to put a staff like that together and they dont have the fan support like some of these other programs
 
DMoney said:
Richt got a lot of money for himself and his staff. Some of this is just luck. Look at Clemson and Dabo.
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i agree on the luck part.I have said over and over we have been one of the unluckiest teams in 15 years. But think abt our coaching searches. The same names appear mario, butch, schiano. Where is a commited administration going after the top coaches on the market?? $$$&
 
DMoney said:
Richt got a lot of money for himself and his staff. Some of this is just luck. Look at Clemson and Dabo.
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I disagree that luck was a big factor in Clemson's rise from the ashes. I'm not exactly sure what Dabo's secret sauce is, but I don't think it's just random luck.
 
DMoney said:
The biggest problem is that none of our coaches from 2003-2018 are currently employed as head coaches.

The only one who even got another head coaching job was Coker at UTSA. And he had a title on his resume.
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That’s the number 2 problem.

That’s a symptom of the number 1 problem is the administration. Namely Shalala and the neutering of the Cane program
 
Problem we've had is we haven't had good coaches who could develop these players.we've had coaches who were living off our past same with the players.our beat teams had a great work ethic handed it down to the next group.and those coaches knew how to evaluate talent and develop it.since coker who started the laziness every coaching staff since had the same mo.Shannon is the one who surprised me being a failure.all that time he spent with Jimmy and co here and at Dallas that he didn't learn one **** thing as far as coaching goes.we need a no nonsense coach who'll grab these kids by the belt buckle and tell them this how it's done the Miami way and we aren't departing from it.if you don't like it don't come here we will win without you.
 
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bshaw28 said:
1) QB is the main issue above all else. We used to be "QB U". A Miami QB hasn't attempted a pass in the NFL in 11 seasons. And it'll be another 2-3 years before that's even a possibility.
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One of the few sensible posts in the thread. Clemson defeated Alabama when Clemson had DeShaun Watson and Trevor Lawrence. When Clemson had Kelly Bryant they gained 2.7 yards per play and lost to Alabama 24-6.

Too many things have to go perfectly to stack the roster. Too many successful decisions well above the national norm and the recent program norm. There is no logical expectation that the Canes can string together that many unlikely coaching and personnel success stories. Yes, a phenomenal head coach would be wish #1. But far more logical and available is to simply locate a difference maker quarterback, someone who can restore legitimacy and therefore spotlight.

I remember the 1982 Canes season. That was a stacked Miami team. That was Schnellenberger's "Go For It" slogan season. But once Jim Kelly got hurt it was a hard trying team with guys like Kyle Vanderwende out there. Heck, even Mark Richt.

The only time I was excited about this program in the past dozen years was pre 2017 when insiders here were raving about N'Kosi Perry.

Then in September 2018 I got a look at N'Kosi Perry.
 
mdpcane said:
@g8rh8rMD after 4 games Canes are only 65th in total offense and 2 games were with total scrub teams.

no excuses for Enos and the pathetic performance of the offense. so far nothing but hot garbage compared to what it could be.

2 glaring areas are 3rd down efficiency and serious red zone problems. the red zone issue is made even worse by having
a FG kicker that has problems making 20 yarders.
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Yeah. It’s not good. And just like last year, it’s not good for what seem to be pretty obvious reasons.
 
Mico Jones said:
That’s the number 2 problem.

That’s a symptom of the number 1 problem is the administration. Namely Shalala and the neutering of the Cane program
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Yep.
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IRememberSchnelly said:
I disagree that luck was a big factor in Clemson's rise from the ashes. I'm not exactly sure what Dabo's secret sauce is, but I don't think it's just random luck.
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I mean, seriously? You must not have been paying attention.

His “secret sauce” is money and lots of it, laundered through his “church” and “Christian foundation”. And steroids. Money to the players and their families, and steroids, and a MASSIVE influx of cash into the program budget and facilities.
 
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