That's that, folks - A recap of where we stand

[JHallCanes]

This is the play that started the downfall of everything. Didn't even get called.

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This is where my heart sank.

Louisville was lost and clueless. A TD occurs for the offense about 90% of the time in situations like this. What do we do? Completely bumble**** it up.

 

[DiegoCane]

My wife commented after the game about how quiet I was. I almost expected it. Every season brings a small hope that we will do something different but Golden is way too stuck in his ways.

The most frustrating part about the Golden era is the way we play. Its been talked about a lot but if you are going to lose, go down guns blazing. Nothing about our team is aggressive, nothing. It sucks the emotion right out of the team IMO. Even after good defensive plays, no celebration, no excitement, no nothing. It seems like the players are as beat down as the fans.

Offensively I am very confused. Is Coley really this clueless or are the marching orders coming from up top? I admittedly don't know much about Coley but he has coached 2 stints with Jimbo who is a good offensive mind. He seems like a young, brash coach but we play the exact opposite. Does he really want to run 2 TEs, a walk on FB, with a TR FR QB when the other team is already stacking the box?

 

[DiegoCane]

This is the play that started the downfall of everything. Didn't even get called.

View attachment 25168

This is where my heart sank.

Louisville was lost and clueless. A TD occurs for the offense about 90% of the time in situations like this. What do we do? Completely bumble**** it up.

I don't blame Kaaya at all for that performance but with a solid throw Coley walks in for a TD. I am not surprised we ****ed it up though.

 

[stat1124]

Although you make some very very valid points. I will disagree with just one of your points and that is about giving Kaaya full reigns and the game having the possibility of getting ugly quick. I agree with that. What I don't agree with is being in the red zone three times and only taking one shot into the endzone which happened to be a completed pass to Walford. The other 7 or 8 plays are stretch runs and the most telegraphed trick play I have seen in years. You dont have to give the kid free reigns but you have to uncuff him and allow him to be a quarterback. There should have been no less than 3 shots into the endzone. That is where I feel we ultimately failed because getting a TD in any of those settings reshapes the entire game. Instead we coached the run it safely and if we get lucky and pop one then we are geniuses, if not at least we got 3 points. Games are lost using this mentality and that is exactly what we experienced.

My biggest problem with the state of the team is that it am now lethargic towards games. I used to be so amped with adrenaline and nerves that I had to be by myself. The thought of losing killed me inside now I expect the worst and hope to win. It is a horrible feeling. With all that said I am gong to try and be rational about last night.

Other than our fandom blinding us, is there any prior evidence of a true freshman qb playing his first game on te road Monday night football and playing well? While Coley doesn't deserve a pass, I believe that 99 out of 100 and maybe all 100 call almost the exact same game. I believe the lack of OL effected the play calling. Kaaya got lit up the 1 st quarter. Not to mention if he throws the ball 35 times and throws 3 picks and duke gets 10 carries everyone would be complaining that u didn't use ur running back. We aren't the first team to face 8-9 man fronts. Plenty of teams still run and run effectively against this. I am a gambler by nature and prefer that style of play. Petrino going for it at his 30 was awesome. But in reality playing it safe while still in the game was probably the right call. There was no need to force things and lose the game. In the end it didn't matter but that is revisionist history. 2-3 plays an we win and while we wouldn't be excited about we would all rationaliE it and say tr fr qb on road smart call and take the win. Most qbs get a warm up game but we weren't afforded that luxury. Heck not compare but Johnny manziels first game got cancelled and he had to play UF first. The game plan was conservative and his numbers weren't very good and he was. A redshirt with a genius as coach. I am a fan of Miami not any coach. I have no allegiance to any of these guys. If they get fired so be it. I'm willing to go through the Nebraska game this year before I write off season.

Been a fan for over 30 years so maybe I am more rational than others. Do ur neg or slurp or whatever that is away.

I get the rational approach. However, on one point (bolded): if that's the game you're gonna call, you just don't start the kid.

That was my initial reaction as well I texted friends and talked to others at work this morning. It seemed counter intuitive but we don't sit in on meetings. I believe they had a game plan and when it's 3rd and 10 everytime and ur OL isn't blocking worth shiit what do u do. Heaps probably would have been better, he almost had to be by experience alone. It is a tough call. I disagree with the way coaches coach and not just UM coaches. They inherently are risk mitigators. Again it's easy to sit here after the game and say we should have given Kaaya full reins and gone guns blazing. Well until it's 35-3 in the first half cause he is getting sacked and throwing ints. Then it was dumb. The score was 14-13 late in the game and we had opportunities to have had a lead. Again the end result dictates our feelings today. I as well as others were screaming at the tv to throw and do something different but we have nothing on the line. It's easy when u have no skin in the game other than fandom

 

[LuCane]

My biggest problem with the state of the team is that it am now lethargic towards games. I used to be so amped with adrenaline and nerves that I had to be by myself. The thought of losing killed me inside now I expect the worst and hope to win. It is a horrible feeling. With all that said I am gong to try and be rational about last night.

Other than our fandom blinding us, is there any prior evidence of a true freshman qb playing his first game on te road Monday night football and playing well? While Coley doesn't deserve a pass, I believe that 99 out of 100 and maybe all 100 call almost the exact same game. I believe the lack of OL effected the play calling. Kaaya got lit up the 1 st quarter. Not to mention if he throws the ball 35 times and throws 3 picks and duke gets 10 carries everyone would be complaining that u didn't use ur running back. We aren't the first team to face 8-9 man fronts. Plenty of teams still run and run effectively against this. I am a gambler by nature and prefer that style of play. Petrino going for it at his 30 was awesome. But in reality playing it safe while still in the game was probably the right call. There was no need to force things and lose the game. In the end it didn't matter but that is revisionist history. 2-3 plays an we win and while we wouldn't be excited about we would all rationaliE it and say tr fr qb on road smart call and take the win. Most qbs get a warm up game but we weren't afforded that luxury. Heck not compare but Johnny manziels first game got cancelled and he had to play UF first. The game plan was conservative and his numbers weren't very good and he was. A redshirt with a genius as coach. I am a fan of Miami not any coach. I have no allegiance to any of these guys. If they get fired so be it. I'm willing to go through the Nebraska game this year before I write off season.

Been a fan for over 30 years so maybe I am more rational than others. Do ur neg or slurp or whatever that is away.

I get the rational approach. However, on one point (bolded): if that's the game you're gonna call, you just don't start the kid.

That was my initial reaction as well I texted friends and talked to others at work this morning. It seemed counter intuitive but we don't sit in on meetings. I believe they had a game plan and when it's 3rd and 10 everytime and ur OL isn't blocking worth shiit what do u do. Heaps probably would have been better, he almost had to be by experience alone. It is a tough call. I disagree with the way coaches coach and not just UM coaches. They inherently are risk mitigators. Again it's easy to sit here after the game and say we should have given Kaaya full reins and gone guns blazing. Well until it's 35-3 in the first half cause he is getting sacked and throwing ints. Then it was dumb. The score was 14-13 late in the game and we had opportunities to have had a lead. Again the end result dictates our feelings today. I as well as others were screaming at the tv to throw and do something different but we have nothing on the line. It's easy when u have no skin in the game other than fandom

It was 3rd and 7 so many times because we were playing within the "Nix box" (12 yards vertical, 53.3 yards wide). We actually tried to throw on 1st down some early, but only laterally. Everything else was out of a contrived PA roll. The OL wasn't blocking worth **** partly because of this approach. Now, again, they deserve some of the blame because they missed blocks and made mistakes, but they got viscously attacked.

We've talked about risk in the past. We're apparently both analytics supporters. I'm not really talking about any of this "after the fact." I talk with most of you about this throughout the season(s). I don't think the result dictates my feelings. Sometimes we win and I say "that doesn't look sustainable." Sometimes we lose and I see a data point that actually supports future success. All that matters, to me, is whether something indicates future success or failure.

That's a big portion of the conversation in that Pillars thread I linked in the original post. You're in that thread and we talk about the same stuff - more or less. I get that it may seem easier for us, but it's not like coaches are this conservative throughout the game of football. There are coaches who hedge much better. There are staffs that outright err on the side of aggression and, more often than not, that energy trickles down to their players/team.

Ah well.

 

[HurricaneBob]

I'm not saying to let the kid start throwing bombs all game, but if you don't have the confidence in him to make some basic throws, why start him?

 

[canedoit]

Miami will never be permanently irrelevant. Miami is one of the football programs in America that is and will always be one good coach away from elite level. Fortunately, Miami is located in the #1 talent pool. A good coach can, and will, harness that talent and win national championships. Hopefully, that coach will be hired sooner rather than later

You may be right, and we might be like a USC or UCLA that way. But the longer this drags on, the more difficult it will be to recapture the magic.

There are levels here. On the level I care about, we've been irrelevant for 10 years already. I'm not here saying we should be in National Championship contention every year. I wish. But, I've adjusted. We should basically be in a 1 game playoff every year to win the ACC Coastal division. We play in the mother****ing ACC Coastal division.

No doubt..It's mind numbing when one considers the division we're in. Sadly, we've been witness to this freakin nightmare far too long. Last year is a good example at how quickly you can rise and fall. 7-0 #7 ranking...to being blown out of games and the national rankings. That was the first crystal clear opportunity Golden has had to roll the dice and get over the hump. Yeah, losing Duke hurt, but losing to Duke with the coastal on the line is..Grrrrrrr

 

[Loafers]

Although you make some very very valid points. I will disagree with just one of your points and that is about giving Kaaya full reigns and the game having the possibility of getting ugly quick. I agree with that. What I don't agree with is being in the red zone three times and only taking one shot into the endzone which happened to be a completed pass to Walford. The other 7 or 8 plays are stretch runs and the most telegraphed trick play I have seen in years. You dont have to give the kid free reigns but you have to uncuff him and allow him to be a quarterback. There should have been no less than 3 shots into the endzone. That is where I feel we ultimately failed because getting a TD in any of those settings reshapes the entire game. Instead we coached the run it safely and if we get lucky and pop one then we are geniuses, if not at least we got 3 points. Games are lost using this mentality and that is exactly what we experienced.

My biggest problem with the state of the team is that it am now lethargic towards games. I used to be so amped with adrenaline and nerves that I had to be by myself. The thought of losing killed me inside now I expect the worst and hope to win. It is a horrible feeling. With all that said I am gong to try and be rational about last night.

Other than our fandom blinding us, is there any prior evidence of a true freshman qb playing his first game on te road Monday night football and playing well? While Coley doesn't deserve a pass, I believe that 99 out of 100 and maybe all 100 call almost the exact same game. I believe the lack of OL effected the play calling. Kaaya got lit up the 1 st quarter. Not to mention if he throws the ball 35 times and throws 3 picks and duke gets 10 carries everyone would be complaining that u didn't use ur running back. We aren't the first team to face 8-9 man fronts. Plenty of teams still run and run effectively against this. I am a gambler by nature and prefer that style of play. Petrino going for it at his 30 was awesome. But in reality playing it safe while still in the game was probably the right call. There was no need to force things and lose the game. In the end it didn't matter but that is revisionist history. 2-3 plays an we win and while we wouldn't be excited about we would all rationaliE it and say tr fr qb on road smart call and take the win. Most qbs get a warm up game but we weren't afforded that luxury. Heck not compare but Johnny manziels first game got cancelled and he had to play UF first. The game plan was conservative and his numbers weren't very good and he was. A redshirt with a genius as coach. I am a fan of Miami not any coach. I have no allegiance to any of these guys. If they get fired so be it. I'm willing to go through the Nebraska game this year before I write off season.

Been a fan for over 30 years so maybe I am more rational than others. Do ur neg or slurp or whatever that is away.

I get the rational approach. However, on one point (bolded): if that's the game you're gonna call, you just don't start the kid.

That was my initial reaction as well I texted friends and talked to others at work this morning. It seemed counter intuitive but we don't sit in on meetings. I believe they had a game plan and when it's 3rd and 10 everytime and ur OL isn't blocking worth shiit what do u do. Heaps probably would have been better, he almost had to be by experience alone. It is a tough call. I disagree with the way coaches coach and not just UM coaches. They inherently are risk mitigators. Again it's easy to sit here after the game and say we should have given Kaaya full reins and gone guns blazing. Well until it's 35-3 in the first half cause he is getting sacked and throwing ints. Then it was dumb. The score was 14-13 late in the game and we had opportunities to have had a lead. Again the end result dictates our feelings today. I as well as others were screaming at the tv to throw and do something different but we have nothing on the line. It's easy when u have no skin in the game other than fandom

I agree. I am much more into taking risks and throwing the ball but part of this attitude is cause we didn't score. The fumble had nothin. To do with the play call. We rushed the play cause Louisville was scrambling. Kaaya rushed the throw wanting to hit coley fast. I didn't like the reverse call. Bad call I agree. At the same time u supposedly have a heisman player in duke so u give him the ball. Do u think Wisconsin or Arkansas back in the day cared if u knew they wre going to run. Block and make a play. Looking bak at how we got stuffed well we should have thrown. Well obviously but honestly if they threw it and Kaaya gets picked u know darn well these boards would have 50 duke threads about how do u not give the ball to a top 10 player in all football. Look coley called a conservative game and it's what coaches do in those situations. I didn't think it was a good called game but not because of running the ball. I would have provided to use the backs and tes more but again with the OL played last night I think it caused them to go extra conservative. So much of the hate is. Because of the results in the past and I agree but looking at this as a one time game I think they did what most coaches do. I don't agree with that philosophy but I don't think it means anything necessarily going forward. That is why I say Nebraska. Give them some cupcakes to work up a rythem and if they are doing this crap at Nebraska then there is no hope for the season. I wait to long in the offseason to give up week one even if it's right in my face

 

[Canesfan1899]

This is the play that started the downfall of everything. Didn't even get called.

View attachment 25168

This is where my heart sank.

Louisville was lost and clueless. A TD occurs for the offense about 90% of the time in situations like this. What do we do? Completely bumble**** it up.

We completely botched the play and it should've been 6. but am I the only one that thought they were off-sides./

 

[DiegoCane]

My biggest problem with the state of the team is that it am now lethargic towards games. I used to be so amped with adrenaline and nerves that I had to be by myself. The thought of losing killed me inside now I expect the worst and hope to win. It is a horrible feeling. With all that said I am gong to try and be rational about last night.

Other than our fandom blinding us, is there any prior evidence of a true freshman qb playing his first game on te road Monday night football and playing well? While Coley doesn't deserve a pass, I believe that 99 out of 100 and maybe all 100 call almost the exact same game. I believe the lack of OL effected the play calling. Kaaya got lit up the 1 st quarter. Not to mention if he throws the ball 35 times and throws 3 picks and duke gets 10 carries everyone would be complaining that u didn't use ur running back. We aren't the first team to face 8-9 man fronts. Plenty of teams still run and run effectively against this. I am a gambler by nature and prefer that style of play. Petrino going for it at his 30 was awesome. But in reality playing it safe while still in the game was probably the right call. There was no need to force things and lose the game. In the end it didn't matter but that is revisionist history. 2-3 plays an we win and while we wouldn't be excited about we would all rationaliE it and say tr fr qb on road smart call and take the win. Most qbs get a warm up game but we weren't afforded that luxury. Heck not compare but Johnny manziels first game got cancelled and he had to play UF first. The game plan was conservative and his numbers weren't very good and he was. A redshirt with a genius as coach. I am a fan of Miami not any coach. I have no allegiance to any of these guys. If they get fired so be it. I'm willing to go through the Nebraska game this year before I write off season.

Been a fan for over 30 years so maybe I am more rational than others. Do ur neg or slurp or whatever that is away.

I get the rational approach. However, on one point (bolded): if that's the game you're gonna call, you just don't start the kid.

That was my initial reaction as well I texted friends and talked to others at work this morning. It seemed counter intuitive but we don't sit in on meetings. I believe they had a game plan and when it's 3rd and 10 everytime and ur OL isn't blocking worth shiit what do u do. Heaps probably would have been better, he almost had to be by experience alone. It is a tough call. I disagree with the way coaches coach and not just UM coaches. They inherently are risk mitigators. Again it's easy to sit here after the game and say we should have given Kaaya full reins and gone guns blazing. Well until it's 35-3 in the first half cause he is getting sacked and throwing ints. Then it was dumb. The score was 14-13 late in the game and we had opportunities to have had a lead. Again the end result dictates our feelings today. I as well as others were screaming at the tv to throw and do something different but we have nothing on the line. It's easy when u have no skin in the game other than fandom

It was 3rd and 7 so many times because we were playing within the "Nix box" (12 yards vertical, 53.3 yards wide). We actually tried to throw on 1st down some early, but only laterally. Everything else was out of a contrived PA roll. The OL wasn't blocking worth **** partly because of this approach. Now, again, they deserve some of the blame because they missed blocks and made mistakes, but they got viscously attacked.

We've talked about risk in the past. We're apparently both analytics supporters. I'm not really talking about any of this "after the fact." I talk with most of you about this throughout the season(s). I don't think the result dictates my feelings. Sometimes we win and I say "that doesn't look sustainable." Sometimes we lose and I see a data point that actually supports future success. All that matters, to me, is whether something indicates future success or failure.

That's a big portion of the conversation in that Pillars thread I linked in the original post. You're in that thread and we talk about the same stuff - more or less. I get that it may seem easier for us, but it's not like coaches are this conservative throughout the game of football. There are coaches who hedge much better. There are staffs that outright err on the side of aggression and, more often than not, that energy trickles down to their players/team.

Ah well.

This man. I want to see this so badly but I know I won't until well everyone knows when.

Early in the 1st (maybe 2nd), McCord makes a nice play for a 2 yard loss. Absolutely no emotion from him or anyone else on the D, just walk back to the huddle.

Its hard to get excited when you know you are playing on your heels for 60 minutes every single week.

 

[Loafers]

My biggest problem with the state of the team is that it am now lethargic towards games. I used to be so amped with adrenaline and nerves that I had to be by myself. The thought of losing killed me inside now I expect the worst and hope to win. It is a horrible feeling. With all that said I am gong to try and be rational about last night.

Other than our fandom blinding us, is there any prior evidence of a true freshman qb playing his first game on te road Monday night football and playing well? While Coley doesn't deserve a pass, I believe that 99 out of 100 and maybe all 100 call almost the exact same game. I believe the lack of OL effected the play calling. Kaaya got lit up the 1 st quarter. Not to mention if he throws the ball 35 times and throws 3 picks and duke gets 10 carries everyone would be complaining that u didn't use ur running back. We aren't the first team to face 8-9 man fronts. Plenty of teams still run and run effectively against this. I am a gambler by nature and prefer that style of play. Petrino going for it at his 30 was awesome. But in reality playing it safe while still in the game was probably the right call. There was no need to force things and lose the game. In the end it didn't matter but that is revisionist history. 2-3 plays an we win and while we wouldn't be excited about we would all rationaliE it and say tr fr qb on road smart call and take the win. Most qbs get a warm up game but we weren't afforded that luxury. Heck not compare but Johnny manziels first game got cancelled and he had to play UF first. The game plan was conservative and his numbers weren't very good and he was. A redshirt with a genius as coach. I am a fan of Miami not any coach. I have no allegiance to any of these guys. If they get fired so be it. I'm willing to go through the Nebraska game this year before I write off season.

Been a fan for over 30 years so maybe I am more rational than others. Do ur neg or slurp or whatever that is away.

I get the rational approach. However, on one point (bolded): if that's the game you're gonna call, you just don't start the kid.

That was my initial reaction as well I texted friends and talked to others at work this morning. It seemed counter intuitive but we don't sit in on meetings. I believe they had a game plan and when it's 3rd and 10 everytime and ur OL isn't blocking worth shiit what do u do. Heaps probably would have been better, he almost had to be by experience alone. It is a tough call. I disagree with the way coaches coach and not just UM coaches. They inherently are risk mitigators. Again it's easy to sit here after the game and say we should have given Kaaya full reins and gone guns blazing. Well until it's 35-3 in the first half cause he is getting sacked and throwing ints. Then it was dumb. The score was 14-13 late in the game and we had opportunities to have had a lead. Again the end result dictates our feelings today. I as well as others were screaming at the tv to throw and do something different but we have nothing on the line. It's easy when u have no skin in the game other than fandom

It was 3rd and 7 so many times because we were playing within the "Nix box" (12 yards vertical, 53.3 yards wide). We actually tried to throw on 1st down some early, but only laterally. Everything else was out of a contrived PA roll. The OL wasn't blocking worth **** partly because of this approach. Now, again, they deserve some of the blame because they missed blocks and made mistakes, but they got viscously attacked.

We've talked about risk in the past. We're apparently both analytics supporters. I'm not really talking about any of this "after the fact." I talk with most of you about this throughout the season(s). I don't think the result dictates my feelings. Sometimes we win and I say "that doesn't look sustainable." Sometimes we lose and I see a data point that actually supports future success. All that matters, to me, is whether something indicates future success or failure.

That's a big portion of the conversation in that Pillars thread I linked in the original post. You're in that thread and we talk about the same stuff - more or less. I get that it may seem easier for us, but it's not like coaches are this conservative throughout the game of football. There are coaches who hedge much better. There are staffs that outright err on the side of aggression and, more often than not, that energy trickles down to their players/team.

Ah well.

I gotcha. I am definitely not arguing here just trying bring some rational debate to the board. I tried to find true freshman who have started recently but data is hard to find. Obviously jacket played against UF to open the season and we were ultra conservative but then u factor in our coaches then too. Hackenberg started at home and rom the stats had a fairly competent game. I don't remember watching so not sure how it played. But his 4 the game was a total bomb with a little experience and obrien as coach. His first real test against Osu was a disaster. Dorsey didn't prepare to start when he came in at VT to use as a example. It is extremely rare for a true frosh to start rfht away. Maybe that was the wrong call.

 

[CANE4LIFE]

My wife commented after the game about how quiet I was. I almost expected it. Every season brings a small hope that we will do something different but Golden is way too stuck in his ways.

The most frustrating part about the Golden era is the way we play. Its been talked about a lot but if you are going to lose, go down guns blazing. Nothing about our team is aggressive, nothing. It sucks the emotion right out of the team IMO. Even after good defensive plays, no celebration, no excitement, no nothing. It seems like the players are as beat down as the fans.

Offensively I am very confused. Is Coley really this clueless or are the marching orders coming from up top? I admittedly don't know much about Coley but he has coached 2 stints with Jimbo who is a good offensive mind. He seems like a young, brash coach but we play the exact opposite. Does he really want to run 2 TEs, a walk on FB, with a TR FR QB when the other team is already stacking the box?

On offense, I don't think the marching orders are coming from above. Honestly. On Defense, yes. I do think that AG has a hand on our defensive philosophy and our conservative nature.

On offense, I think AG has given Coley the keys and told him to get it done. I just think Coley is in WAY over his head. He's a great recruiter, but the guy is SORELY lacking as an OC and QB coach. He may be able to do the latter job, but he cannot handle the job of OC by himself. In the end, its STILL on AG though, as he's the man in charge.

But as far as the offense goes, I think he's let Coley have control of it, and the results so far have been a disaster.

Like I have said in other threads though, he's stuck in a real jam though. Coley is the best recruiter on the staff. So do you risk losing many of your best recruits in order to bring in a good OC? Don't forget, we had Fisch here, who was a BRILLIANT X and Os guy, and look who he recruited as QBs. Coley sucks at X and Os, but he's recruited good talent.

Im not sure what the solution is here for AG. Besides the obvious of "Fire AG", which isn't going to happen before the end of this season, and realistically, not til after next season IMO, what can be done in the meantime to help fix some of the most glaring issues. I would think the start is to ****can Kehoe, and bring in a dedicated QB coach. Tell Coley he either agrees to work with an QB coach or he's out.

But as it is right now, Coley is in way over his head.

 

[eleganttomcat]

It probably has to do with no pressure on him at that point, as well as a Louisville D that had already won the game, but when Kaaya was able to get after it at the end of the game we were driving up until the pick. Again, a standoffish D at that point combined with no pressure at all since the game was already lost definitely played a role, but I'd rather lose playing like that from the beginning than our offense being restricted right from the beginning in terms of play calls.

 

[rok]

I'm not saying to let the kid start throwing bombs all game, but if you don't have the confidence in him to make some basic throws, why start him?

D. Thompson
P. Dewey
G. Crow
J. Heaps

No other choice

 

[Canesfan1899]

My Hope was shattered when we came out of halftime and ran the ball 6 times in a row with no creativity! I shook my head and said prepare for a "VERY LONG SEASON"

This, we were in the game, should've been in the lead and went into a shell. I realize Duke's our big dog and we should have relied as much as possible on him, but they also knew that and when they are stuffing the box with 8-9 man fronts you have to adjust. Coach Coley should be ashamed of himself for the game he called.

I agree that the problems seem systemic. Al is still in his Temple mindset where he had to coach conservitively to stay in close games because he didn't have the talent to compete with big programs. He's at Miami and has access to arguably the richest recruiting area in the country but has adjusted his values and systems to match what he has in South Florida.

I fear he gets a long leash becuase of all the issues over the past few years but that shouldn't be the case. I lost a lot of faith in him last year when he didn't fire D'Onofrio immediatly following the season, that showed me Al didn't have his mind right for this job. The he flirts with PSU ( a job I was praying he would get) and does little to make amends for that after he didn't get the job.

I will still watch every game that I can because like you guys I love the Canes, but I'm not very optimistic moving forward and hope something happens to change my mind.

 

[Rellyrell]

My Hope was shattered when we came out of halftime and ran the ball 6 times in a row with no creativity! I shook my head and said prepare for a "VERY LONG SEASON"

I totally agree w/ you. I thought that having the ball in the 2nd half was going to be a turning point. Here's my thing...I don't mind a kid making mistakes, so no, I'm not going to bash Kaaya. But I am going to bash Golden and Coley for not helping him out. I'm going to blame Kehoe for not helping him out. You have a true Frosh QB going against an overly aggressive UL line and you don't run bootlegs? You don't run screens for DUKE and not these bum WR screens? You don't keep him in MAX protection ALL Game until they show you something different? How about some 5 yrd throws just to get his confidence going? How about some creativity one the outside when you have three guys on the field at the WR position running sub 4.4's.

 

[RaiseCane]

My wife commented after the game about how quiet I was. I almost expected it. Every season brings a small hope that we will do something different but Golden is way too stuck in his ways.

The most frustrating part about the Golden era is the way we play. Its been talked about a lot but if you are going to lose, go down guns blazing. Nothing about our team is aggressive, nothing. It sucks the emotion right out of the team IMO. Even after good defensive plays, no celebration, no excitement, no nothing. It seems like the players are as beat down as the fans.

Offensively I am very confused. Is Coley really this clueless or are the marching orders coming from up top? I admittedly don't know much about Coley but he has coached 2 stints with Jimbo who is a good offensive mind. He seems like a young, brash coach but we play the exact opposite. Does he really want to run 2 TEs, a walk on FB, with a TR FR QB when the other team is already stacking the box?

This. The passive strategy that we employ on both sides of the ball (and let's be honest, on special teams too - why not try and block a punt or something last night if our offense isn't moving the ball) is unbelievably frustrating, especially for those of us who grew up watching the teams from the 80s and 90s bring the game to the other team, dictate the style to the other team and coach and play with a clear intensity.

I know the game is different, and maybe my childhood memories are blinding my reality, but I remember Kevin Patrick, Darren Krein, Rusty Medearis and crew terrorizing QBs with their speed and energy. What is the point of having guys like McCord, AQM, Thomas, etc. if we're not going to let them hunt the QB? What's the point of accumulating all the talent we have at WR, RB and TE if we're not going to attack? How do we play not to lose on offense when our defense hasn't shown the ability to be reliable since Golden has been here? How do we play passively on defense when we're facing a team with a new QB, without his best receiver, and with a secondary that's supposed to be the strength of our team, and with our offense with a 1st time starter? Miami has won in the past with teams that are built to attack. This team is coached to react in all phases, and I'd say the results of that attitude and strategy speak for themselves.

 

[Loafers]

It probably has to do with no pressure on him at that point, as well as a Louisville D that had already won the game, but when Kaaya was able to get after it at the end of the game we were driving up until the pick. Again, a standoffish D at that point combined with no pressure at all since the game was already lost definitely played a role, but I'd rather lose playing like that from the beginning than our offense being restricted right from the beginning in terms of play calls.

Ok that is fine but he got picked playing that way against backups and prevent. So one would probably assume that doing that against first team pressure wouldn't have ended in a better result. I hate. Let me say that again hate losing. I don't agree with being conservative but with that said the game was ours to lose and we did everything humanly possibly to do so. Hwck even on the last couple if drives. Lineman downfield. Then in mop up duty we get back to back penalties when Louisville isn't really trying and end up in a pick. I don't have the answer. These coaches clearly aren't the best out there but at this point all we have is hope no matter how painful that is

 

[HurricaneBob]

I'm not saying to let the kid start throwing bombs all game, but if you don't have the confidence in him to make some basic throws, why start him?

D. Thompson
P. Dewey
G. Crow
J. Heaps

No other choice

Heaps could have just as easily handed the ball off. If you're not going to let the kid throw the ball, why not start the more experienced player? If Heaps **** the bed, you could always sub in Kayaa. If Kayaa sucks, you can't sit him and destroy his confidence. Another case of our coaches playing checkers instead of chess.

There's a reason no D1 schools start true freshman at QB. Also, with all of those other names up there, what does that say about our ability to coach up QB's? Not every single kid we've recruited since Dorsey has to have been a bust - when do we start looking at the coaching staff?

 

[CANE4LIFE]

I'm not saying to let the kid start throwing bombs all game, but if you don't have the confidence in him to make some basic throws, why start him?

D. Thompson
P. Dewey
G. Crow
J. Heaps

No other choice

Heaps could have just as easily handed the ball off. If you're not going to let the kid throw the ball, why not start the more experienced player? If Heaps **** the bed, you could always sub in Kayaa. If Kayaa sucks, you can't sit him and destroy his confidence. Another case of our coaches playing checkers instead of chess.

There's a reason no D1 schools start true freshman at QB. Also, with all of those other names up there, what does that say about our ability to coach up QB's? Not every single kid we've recruited since Dorsey has to have been a bust - when do we start looking at the coaching staff?

This is really the whole thing right here. That is the most salient issue of the whole debacle last night.

Why start Kaaya if that is what you were going to do? Makes no F*CKING sense.