That's that, folks - A recap of where we stand

[HurricaneBob]

My Hope was shattered when we came out of halftime and ran the ball 6 times in a row with no creativity! I shook my head and said prepare for a "VERY LONG SEASON"

For me, that moment was somewhere between when I realized we were officially (I had heard from those watching practice) playing defense with the same principles and we had chosen a True Frosh QB only to treat him like he was playing with his off-arm.

It's the essence of "JUST HOLD THE ROPE and hope for a mistake from our opponent." It's no way to win important games. It's no way to max out some really talented individual players. We are hoping we grind our way to victories. This, again, is not new.

They made the mistakes and we still couldn't get it done. We're just not a well coached / prepared football team.

 

[kmwcane]

As a friend text'd me before yesterday's game: hope is a dangerous thing.

And as you you responded, "get busy living or get busy dying." It's so sad to me, because I want to be able to share this with my son so badly (lord know some of my best memories as a kid were watching the Canes with my old man), but the more this incompetence continues, the more irrelevant we become, and the more detached I (and I presume the entire fanbase) become. This program is once again on the precipice of permanent irrelevance. We're getting to the point of no return. For the first time in my adult life, I debated not renewing my season tickets this year. I'm already questioning the decision and thinking I probably won't next year.

Don't mean to give short shrift to what you wrote, because I think it's very well-thought out and put together and a great summary of where we are. But like you mentioned, none of it is new--it's all been discussed, ad nauseum. Like I wrote in K9's thread, I don't know where we go from here. Golden is the guy he's shown to be--four years in, he's not changing--and if he's not changing, why would anyone think the results will?

So so so depressing, man.

Miami will never be permanently irrelevant. Miami is one of the football programs in America that is and will always be one good coach away from elite level. Fortunately, Miami is located in the #1 talent pool. A good coach can, and will, harness that talent and win national championships. Hopefully, that coach will be hired sooner rather than later.

 

[The Franchise]

No killer instinct and no willingness to repeat what worked. They had a first time starter, who clearly didn't protect the ball well under pressure. Blitz that guy mercilessly and trust your vaunted back end to hold up against huge plays and to be opportunistic in the event that he tosses it up for grabs. Instead, we got away from that and let him sit back there and be comfortable.

Offensively, we were a total joke. Al went Dean Smith 4 corners stall from the opening whistle hoping to kick FGs and win 13-10. Very timid sad approach to football.

The contrast between Al and Petrino from a philosophical standpoint was most stark at the end of the first half when Al was trying to run out the clock and Petrino prevented AL from doing it so Louisville could try to score more points. That was a terrible sequence for us. Al was clearly playing to not lose while Petrino was playing to win.

That encapsulated the difference in their mindset as coaches.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

Miami will never be permanently irrelevant. Miami is one of the football programs in America that is and will always be one good coach away from elite level. Fortunately, Miami is located in the #1 talent pool. A good coach can, and will, harness that talent and win national championships. Hopefully, that coach will be hired sooner rather than later.

And I see that talent pool at its grass roots level every Saturday at Optimist football. Almost every park down here has stud football players all over their roster. It is unbelievable. If you can harness the talent down here, you can win a lot of football games.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

No killer instinct and no willingness to repeat what worked. They had a first time starter, who clearly didn't protect the ball well under pressure. Blitz that guy mercilessly and trust your vaunted back end to hold up against huge plays and to be opportunistic in the event that he tosses it up for grabs. Instead, we got away from that and let him sit back there and be comfortable.

Offensively, we were a total joke. Al went Dean Smith 4 corners stall from the opening whistle hoping to kick FGs and win 13-10. Very timid sad approach to football.

The contrast between Al and Petrino from a philosophical standpoint was most stark at the end of the first half when Al was trying to run out the clock and Petrino prevented AL from doing it so Louisville could try to score more points. That was a terrible sequence for us. Al was clearly playing to not lose while Petrino was playing to win.

That encapsulated the difference in their mindset as coaches.

Al is a schlep and Petrino is a great football coach. Pretty simple.

 

[JHallCanes]

Last night was one of the most brutal games to watch since the OB Massacre. Nothing really to add other than the deflating feeling as a fan, tied directly to all the blustering and bull**** spouted off, all the thought out, politically correct, grammar appropriate BULL**** we've been force fed since this guy took over has gone on for too long. There was always excuses, always something he could tie it to. You took a true freshman who actually looked comfortable when he got the ball downfield, and you stuffed him in a box. The same ******* kid you just went on and on and ******* on about the last week.

All bull****. All of it. Tired of hearing this ******* speak. His pillars don't have the density to hold up a Tupperware lid. It's an illusion. All of it.

Get the **** out of my sight Golden.

 

[UMJer026]

Miami will never be permanently irrelevant. Miami is one of the football programs in America that is and will always be one good coach away from elite level. Fortunately, Miami is located in the #1 talent pool. A good coach can, and will, harness that talent and win national championships. Hopefully, that coach will be hired sooner rather than later

You may be right, and we might be like a USC or UCLA that way. But the longer this drags on, the more difficult it will be to recapture the magic.

 

[LuCane]

Miami will never be permanently irrelevant. Miami is one of the football programs in America that is and will always be one good coach away from elite level. Fortunately, Miami is located in the #1 talent pool. A good coach can, and will, harness that talent and win national championships. Hopefully, that coach will be hired sooner rather than later

You may be right, and we might be like a USC or UCLA that way. But the longer this drags on, the more difficult it will be to recapture the magic.

There are levels here. On the level I care about, we've been irrelevant for 10 years already. I'm not here saying we should be in National Championship contention every year. I wish. But, I've adjusted. We should basically be in a 1 game playoff every year to win the ACC Coastal division. We play in the mother****ing ACC Coastal division.

 

[AUcane]

My Hope was shattered when we came out of halftime and ran the ball 6 times in a row with no creativity! I shook my head and said prepare for a "VERY LONG SEASON"

For me, that moment was somewhere between when I realized we were officially (I had heard from those watching practice) playing defense with the same principles and we had chosen a True Frosh QB only to treat him like he was playing with his off-arm.

It's the essence of "JUST HOLD THE ROPE and hope for a mistake from our opponent." It's no way to win important games. It's no way to max out some really talented individual players. We are hoping we grind our way to victories. This, again, is not new.

Yep. For me it was watching the first defensive series. It officially told me nothing is changing and coaches are eventually hoping to out-talent everyone

 

[eleganttomcat]

Here is my most recent frustration...

Golden called training camp short because he loved where the team was at. What the **** kind of idea is that? Think Saban, or any other legitimate head coach, even if they KNEW they had the best team in the entire country would call training camp short? Our ******* defense was huffing and puffing the second half, maybe an extra couple days of conditioning could have reduced that even a little bit. Don't get it man. These coaches need to innovate and stop being stuck in their ways of the past, unwilling to change.

 

[rkhill71]

I agree 100 percent we at least need to be in contention win the coastal division every year the winner has 3 or 4 losses.It's sad that but I have to be realistic,we haven't been good in a long time.The sad thing is I think we have the talent!

 

[Miami82]

Here is my most recent frustration...

Golden called training camp short because he loved where the team was at. What the **** kind of idea is that? Think Saban, or any other legitimate head coach, even if they KNEW they had the best team in the entire country would call training camp short? Our ******* defense was huffing and puffing the second half, maybe an extra couple days of conditioning could have reduced that even a little bit. Don't get it man. These coaches need to innovate and stop being stuck in their ways of the past, unwilling to change.

[video=youtube;p-JRlTFE4I8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-JRlTFE4I8[/video]

 

[stat1124]

This is the play that started the downfall of everything. Didn't even get called.

 

[BigDikCane]

f**kin coaches aren't Miami material..

 

[Loafers]

My biggest problem with the state of the team is that it am now lethargic towards games. I used to be so amped with adrenaline and nerves that I had to be by myself. The thought of losing killed me inside now I expect the worst and hope to win. It is a horrible feeling. With all that said I am gong to try and be rational about last night.

Other than our fandom blinding us, is there any prior evidence of a true freshman qb playing his first game on te road Monday night football and playing well? While Coley doesn't deserve a pass, I believe that 99 out of 100 and maybe all 100 call almost the exact same game. I believe the lack of OL effected the play calling. Kaaya got lit up the 1 st quarter. Not to mention if he throws the ball 35 times and throws 3 picks and duke gets 10 carries everyone would be complaining that u didn't use ur running back. We aren't the first team to face 8-9 man fronts. Plenty of teams still run and run effectively against this. I am a gambler by nature and prefer that style of play. Petrino going for it at his 30 was awesome. But in reality playing it safe while still in the game was probably the right call. There was no need to force things and lose the game. In the end it didn't matter but that is revisionist history. 2-3 plays an we win and while we wouldn't be excited about we would all rationaliE it and say tr fr qb on road smart call and take the win. Most qbs get a warm up game but we weren't afforded that luxury. Heck not compare but Johnny manziels first game got cancelled and he had to play UF first. The game plan was conservative and his numbers weren't very good and he was. A redshirt with a genius as coach. I am a fan of Miami not any coach. I have no allegiance to any of these guys. If they get fired so be it. I'm willing to go through the Nebraska game this year before I write off season.

Been a fan for over 30 years so maybe I am more rational than others. Do ur neg or slurp or whatever that is away.

 

[deleted4920]

As a friend text'd me before yesterday's game: hope is a dangerous thing.

And as you you responded, "get busy living or get busy dying." It's so sad to me, because I want to be able to share this with my son so badly (lord know some of my best memories as a kid were watching the Canes with my old man), but the more this incompetence continues, the more irrelevant we become, and the more detached I (and I presume the entire fanbase) become. This program is once again on the precipice of permanent irrelevance. We're getting to the point of no return. For the first time in my adult life, I debated not renewing my season tickets this year. I'm already questioning the decision and thinking I probably won't next year.

Don't mean to give short shrift to what you wrote, because I think it's very well-thought out and put together and a great summary of where we are. But like you mentioned, none of it is new--it's all been discussed, ad nauseum. Like I wrote in K9's thread, I don't know where we go from here. Golden is the guy he's shown to be--four years in, he's not changing--and if he's not changing, why would anyone think the results will?

So so so depressing, man.

Agree. I'm sadly close to complete apathy.

 

[LuCane]

My biggest problem with the state of the team is that it am now lethargic towards games. I used to be so amped with adrenaline and nerves that I had to be by myself. The thought of losing killed me inside now I expect the worst and hope to win. It is a horrible feeling. With all that said I am gong to try and be rational about last night.

Other than our fandom blinding us, is there any prior evidence of a true freshman qb playing his first game on te road Monday night football and playing well? While Coley doesn't deserve a pass, I believe that 99 out of 100 and maybe all 100 call almost the exact same game. I believe the lack of OL effected the play calling. Kaaya got lit up the 1 st quarter. Not to mention if he throws the ball 35 times and throws 3 picks and duke gets 10 carries everyone would be complaining that u didn't use ur running back. We aren't the first team to face 8-9 man fronts. Plenty of teams still run and run effectively against this. I am a gambler by nature and prefer that style of play. Petrino going for it at his 30 was awesome. But in reality playing it safe while still in the game was probably the right call. There was no need to force things and lose the game. In the end it didn't matter but that is revisionist history. 2-3 plays an we win and while we wouldn't be excited about we would all rationaliE it and say tr fr qb on road smart call and take the win. Most qbs get a warm up game but we weren't afforded that luxury. Heck not compare but Johnny manziels first game got cancelled and he had to play UF first. The game plan was conservative and his numbers weren't very good and he was. A redshirt with a genius as coach. I am a fan of Miami not any coach. I have no allegiance to any of these guys. If they get fired so be it. I'm willing to go through the Nebraska game this year before I write off season.

Been a fan for over 30 years so maybe I am more rational than others. Do ur neg or slurp or whatever that is away.

I get the rational approach. However, on one point (bolded): if that's the game you're gonna call, you just don't start the kid.

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

Here is my most recent frustration...

Golden called training camp short because he loved where the team was at. What the **** kind of idea is that? Think Saban, or any other legitimate head coach, even if they KNEW they had the best team in the entire country would call training camp short? Our ******* defense was huffing and puffing the second half, maybe an extra couple days of conditioning could have reduced that even a little bit. Don't get it man. These coaches need to innovate and stop being stuck in their ways of the past, unwilling to change.

And those of us who called out that stupidity were labeled as mopes.

In hindsight, what a great ******* idea of Golden.

 

[HurricaneBob]

There's a reason why only one other D1 school started a true freshman at QB.

If you're not going to let the kid play, then why start him? Heaps could have handed the ball off just as easily.

 

[Loafers]

My biggest problem with the state of the team is that it am now lethargic towards games. I used to be so amped with adrenaline and nerves that I had to be by myself. The thought of losing killed me inside now I expect the worst and hope to win. It is a horrible feeling. With all that said I am gong to try and be rational about last night.

Other than our fandom blinding us, is there any prior evidence of a true freshman qb playing his first game on te road Monday night football and playing well? While Coley doesn't deserve a pass, I believe that 99 out of 100 and maybe all 100 call almost the exact same game. I believe the lack of OL effected the play calling. Kaaya got lit up the 1 st quarter. Not to mention if he throws the ball 35 times and throws 3 picks and duke gets 10 carries everyone would be complaining that u didn't use ur running back. We aren't the first team to face 8-9 man fronts. Plenty of teams still run and run effectively against this. I am a gambler by nature and prefer that style of play. Petrino going for it at his 30 was awesome. But in reality playing it safe while still in the game was probably the right call. There was no need to force things and lose the game. In the end it didn't matter but that is revisionist history. 2-3 plays an we win and while we wouldn't be excited about we would all rationaliE it and say tr fr qb on road smart call and take the win. Most qbs get a warm up game but we weren't afforded that luxury. Heck not compare but Johnny manziels first game got cancelled and he had to play UF first. The game plan was conservative and his numbers weren't very good and he was. A redshirt with a genius as coach. I am a fan of Miami not any coach. I have no allegiance to any of these guys. If they get fired so be it. I'm willing to go through the Nebraska game this year before I write off season.

Been a fan for over 30 years so maybe I am more rational than others. Do ur neg or slurp or whatever that is away.

I get the rational approach. However, on one point (bolded): if that's the game you're gonna call, you just don't start the kid.

That was my initial reaction as well I texted friends and talked to others at work this morning. It seemed counter intuitive but we don't sit in on meetings. I believe they had a game plan and when it's 3rd and 10 everytime and ur OL isn't blocking worth shiit what do u do. Heaps probably would have been better, he almost had to be by experience alone. It is a tough call. I disagree with the way coaches coach and not just UM coaches. They inherently are risk mitigators. Again it's easy to sit here after the game and say we should have given Kaaya full reins and gone guns blazing. Well until it's 35-3 in the first half cause he is getting sacked and throwing ints. Then it was dumb. The score was 14-13 late in the game and we had opportunities to have had a lead. Again the end result dictates our feelings today. I as well as others were screaming at the tv to throw and do something different but we have nothing on the line. It's easy when u have no skin in the game other than fandom