TH3

[Coach Macho]

didn't elder get badly burned on that game clinching reception against cincy? but didn't hear anybody say anything. to blame any player under this staff is down right ridiculous. we're dealing with possibly the worst assembly of college coaches to ever exist in power 5 conf college football.

Yeah, let's site one play where Elder got beat and compare it to Howard getting beat every game

And please explain to me exactly how you DON'T BLAME ELDER on that play? He was in press coverage and the WR shook him out of his cleats. That's on Elder not on the coaches.

no there have been others. and burns has been beat plenty of times this year as well. especially in the nebraska game. all of our dbs struggle and even though ones who seemed to have ball skills in high school have seemed to regress in that area. seriously don't know what your weird beef is with howard. is it something personal?

My beef isn't with Howard, it's with posters making asinine statements such as "this scheme is ruining Howard's career". I've heard that dumb a$$ statement on this board a hundred times and there's never any proof/substance/logic behind it. When asked HOW, nobody ever provides an answer.

It's always "this staff sucks, look what they did to Howard!" How 'bout the staff sucks but (also) Howard just isn't that good? Perhaps he was slightly overrated and that's why he's being out-played by a less-heralded kid from Tennessee?

If you're gonna tie a kid's failures to the coaching staff at least provide an answer as to HOW they're making him worse. (i.e. asking Chad Thomas to play 2-gap technique instead of coming off the edge every play)

well hasn't asking many of our dbs to play 15 yds off the ball in critical situations an example of setting our guys up for failure? even if you don't believe the scheme ruined howard's career you can't argue that it does anything to help it either.

Except we don't do that. Show me where our CB's are 15 yards off the ball. (or even half that distance)

 

[Coach Macho]

didn't elder get badly burned on that game clinching reception against cincy? but didn't hear anybody say anything. to blame any player under this staff is down right ridiculous. we're dealing with possibly the worst assembly of college coaches to ever exist in power 5 conf college football.

Yeah, let's site one play where Elder got beat and compare it to Howard getting beat every game

And please explain to me exactly how you DON'T BLAME ELDER on that play? He was in press coverage and the WR shook him out of his cleats. That's on Elder not on the coaches.

no there have been others. and burns has been beat plenty of times this year as well. especially in the nebraska game. all of our dbs struggle and even though ones who seemed to have ball skills in high school have seemed to regress in that area. seriously don't know what your weird beef is with howard. is it something personal?

My beef isn't with Howard, it's with posters making asinine statements such as "this scheme is ruining Howard's career". I've heard that dumb a$$ statement on this board a hundred times and there's never any proof/substance/logic behind it. When asked HOW, nobody ever provides an answer.

It's always "this staff sucks, look what they did to Howard!" How 'bout the staff sucks but (also) Howard just isn't that good? Perhaps he was slightly overrated and that's why he's being out-played by a less-heralded kid from Tennessee?

If you're gonna tie a kid's failures to the coaching staff at least provide an answer as to HOW they're making him worse. (i.e. asking Chad Thomas to play 2-gap technique instead of coming off the edge every play)

Now I'm no chalkboard commando but it would seem to me that part of the problem with TH3 would be the fact that guys like Thomas and the entire DL are being asked to 2 gap not put any pressure on the QB. Pressure on the passer is always a huge factor in the quality of DB play.

Then again I'm not a corch. These days I'm just a spectator.

I'm not seeing Howard get beat due to lack of pressure. Not at all. Like, not EVER. LOL

 

[TreOFive]

Stop bashing players for playing for a POS coach

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Yeah, let's site one play where Elder got beat and compare it to Howard getting beat every game

And please explain to me exactly how you DON'T BLAME ELDER on that play? He was in press coverage and the WR shook him out of his cleats. That's on Elder not on the coaches.

no there have been others. and burns has been beat plenty of times this year as well. especially in the nebraska game. all of our dbs struggle and even though ones who seemed to have ball skills in high school have seemed to regress in that area. seriously don't know what your weird beef is with howard. is it something personal?

My beef isn't with Howard, it's with posters making asinine statements such as "this scheme is ruining Howard's career". I've heard that dumb a$$ statement on this board a hundred times and there's never any proof/substance/logic behind it. When asked HOW, nobody ever provides an answer.

It's always "this staff sucks, look what they did to Howard!" How 'bout the staff sucks but (also) Howard just isn't that good? Perhaps he was slightly overrated and that's why he's being out-played by a less-heralded kid from Tennessee?

If you're gonna tie a kid's failures to the coaching staff at least provide an answer as to HOW they're making him worse. (i.e. asking Chad Thomas to play 2-gap technique instead of coming off the edge every play)

Now I'm no chalkboard commando but it would seem to me that part of the problem with TH3 would be the fact that guys like Thomas and the entire DL are being asked to 2 gap not put any pressure on the QB. Pressure on the passer is always a huge factor in the quality of DB play.

Then again I'm not a corch. These days I'm just a spectator.

I'm not seeing Howard get beat due to lack of pressure. Not at all. Like, not EVER. LOL

So QB pressure has an impact on every DB on the planet's play except T. Howard?

 

[gfer1988]

Yeah, let's site one play where Elder got beat and compare it to Howard getting beat every game

And please explain to me exactly how you DON'T BLAME ELDER on that play? He was in press coverage and the WR shook him out of his cleats. That's on Elder not on the coaches.

no there have been others. and burns has been beat plenty of times this year as well. especially in the nebraska game. all of our dbs struggle and even though ones who seemed to have ball skills in high school have seemed to regress in that area. seriously don't know what your weird beef is with howard. is it something personal?

My beef isn't with Howard, it's with posters making asinine statements such as "this scheme is ruining Howard's career". I've heard that dumb a$$ statement on this board a hundred times and there's never any proof/substance/logic behind it. When asked HOW, nobody ever provides an answer.

It's always "this staff sucks, look what they did to Howard!" How 'bout the staff sucks but (also) Howard just isn't that good? Perhaps he was slightly overrated and that's why he's being out-played by a less-heralded kid from Tennessee?

If you're gonna tie a kid's failures to the coaching staff at least provide an answer as to HOW they're making him worse. (i.e. asking Chad Thomas to play 2-gap technique instead of coming off the edge every play)

well hasn't asking many of our dbs to play 15 yds off the ball in critical situations an example of setting our guys up for failure? even if you don't believe the scheme ruined howard's career you can't argue that it does anything to help it either.

Except we don't do that. Show me where our CB's are 15 yards off the ball. (or even half that distance)

yes we've done that plenty. you don't watch the games. now we've done it less this season but we still don't create a pass rush which kills all of our cbs. so that's another was scheme hurts his play too. not too mention even in bump and run are cbs don't seem to know how to bump. there is literally no attempt to engage the wr at the line. and if that has gone by for 5 seasons with all of our guys failing to do this, how is that not coaching? how do you not believe this is an issue of bad practice habbits and not teaching our guys all the fundamentals. it's like our coaches are always trying to cut corners.

 

[Coach Macho]

no there have been others. and burns has been beat plenty of times this year as well. especially in the nebraska game. all of our dbs struggle and even though ones who seemed to have ball skills in high school have seemed to regress in that area. seriously don't know what your weird beef is with howard. is it something personal?

My beef isn't with Howard, it's with posters making asinine statements such as "this scheme is ruining Howard's career". I've heard that dumb a$$ statement on this board a hundred times and there's never any proof/substance/logic behind it. When asked HOW, nobody ever provides an answer.

It's always "this staff sucks, look what they did to Howard!" How 'bout the staff sucks but (also) Howard just isn't that good? Perhaps he was slightly overrated and that's why he's being out-played by a less-heralded kid from Tennessee?

If you're gonna tie a kid's failures to the coaching staff at least provide an answer as to HOW they're making him worse. (i.e. asking Chad Thomas to play 2-gap technique instead of coming off the edge every play)

well hasn't asking many of our dbs to play 15 yds off the ball in critical situations an example of setting our guys up for failure? even if you don't believe the scheme ruined howard's career you can't argue that it does anything to help it either.

Except we don't do that. Show me where our CB's are 15 yards off the ball. (or even half that distance)

yes we've done that plenty. you don't watch the games. now we've done it less this season but we still don't create a pass rush which kills all of our cbs. so that's another was scheme hurts his play too. not too mention even in bump and run are cbs don't seem to know how to bump. there is literally no attempt to engage the wr at the line. and if that has gone by for 5 seasons with all of our guys failing to do this, how is that not coaching? how do you not believe this is an issue of bad practice habbits and not teaching our guys all the fundamentals. it's like our coaches are always trying to cut corners.

Not even gonna argue with you cause you have no clue what you're seeing.

There's no defense in existence that has your CB line-up 15 yards off the ball. Just stop.

 

[Coach Macho]

no there have been others. and burns has been beat plenty of times this year as well. especially in the nebraska game. all of our dbs struggle and even though ones who seemed to have ball skills in high school have seemed to regress in that area. seriously don't know what your weird beef is with howard. is it something personal?

My beef isn't with Howard, it's with posters making asinine statements such as "this scheme is ruining Howard's career". I've heard that dumb a$$ statement on this board a hundred times and there's never any proof/substance/logic behind it. When asked HOW, nobody ever provides an answer.

It's always "this staff sucks, look what they did to Howard!" How 'bout the staff sucks but (also) Howard just isn't that good? Perhaps he was slightly overrated and that's why he's being out-played by a less-heralded kid from Tennessee?

If you're gonna tie a kid's failures to the coaching staff at least provide an answer as to HOW they're making him worse. (i.e. asking Chad Thomas to play 2-gap technique instead of coming off the edge every play)

Now I'm no chalkboard commando but it would seem to me that part of the problem with TH3 would be the fact that guys like Thomas and the entire DL are being asked to 2 gap not put any pressure on the QB. Pressure on the passer is always a huge factor in the quality of DB play.

Then again I'm not a corch. These days I'm just a spectator.

I'm not seeing Howard get beat due to lack of pressure. Not at all. Like, not EVER. LOL

So QB pressure has an impact on every DB on the planet's play except T. Howard?

Where did I say that? I said that I'm not seeing Howard get beat due to lack of pressure. In other words, he's getting beat within the standard time of a passing play.

 

[Gamineal]

Hey CORCH, explain the 3pt stance here......

 

[HulkaCaniac]

Hey CORCH, explain the 3pt stance here......

Lol at the LB in a frog stance.

Corch Nacho response

"There's not a lb in college football that lines up in a 3 point stance. ".

Negged

 

[Coach Macho]

"Yeah bro! Negged his a$$!"

 

[dycane]

Hey CORCH, explain the 3pt stance here......

That's got to be a first...as in a first in the history of football.

 

[HulkaCaniac]

"Yeah bro! Negged his a$$!"

Hey corch, is that phone ringing off the hook to come corch their defense?

 

[lauderdaleballer]

Is that for real? I don't know much about defense but I never saw a linebacker in 3 or stance.

 

[2Focusd804]

not sure what everybody has been watching but Elder and Burns have been significantly better than TH3 this year. you can debate whether its due to bad player development if you want but the truth is TH3 is the 3rd best CB on this team

 

[Jassid82]

That secondary played their a$$es off last night. Rudolph and Lane were very quiet save for a few catches.

 

[2Focusd804]

That secondary played their a$$es off last night. Rudolph and Lane were very quiet save for a few catches.

to your point, outside of a bad matchup with deon in the slot i think we covered ok, at least in man. my biggest disappointment was with the DB's getting off of blocks. FSU WR's were much more physical for the majority of the game.

 

[HulkaCaniac]

That secondary played their a$$es off last night. Rudolph and Lane were very quiet save for a few catches.

What?

 

[Coach Macho]

Howard looked good on that play where he drew a PI penalty.

He played the ball awesomely! He should be in press-man bump-n-run all day!!! That was his specialty in high school!

 

[gfer1988]

My beef isn't with Howard, it's with posters making asinine statements such as "this scheme is ruining Howard's career". I've heard that dumb a$$ statement on this board a hundred times and there's never any proof/substance/logic behind it. When asked HOW, nobody ever provides an answer.

It's always "this staff sucks, look what they did to Howard!" How 'bout the staff sucks but (also) Howard just isn't that good? Perhaps he was slightly overrated and that's why he's being out-played by a less-heralded kid from Tennessee?

If you're gonna tie a kid's failures to the coaching staff at least provide an answer as to HOW they're making him worse. (i.e. asking Chad Thomas to play 2-gap technique instead of coming off the edge every play)

well hasn't asking many of our dbs to play 15 yds off the ball in critical situations an example of setting our guys up for failure? even if you don't believe the scheme ruined howard's career you can't argue that it does anything to help it either.

Except we don't do that. Show me where our CB's are 15 yards off the ball. (or even half that distance)

yes we've done that plenty. you don't watch the games. now we've done it less this season but we still don't create a pass rush which kills all of our cbs. so that's another was scheme hurts his play too. not too mention even in bump and run are cbs don't seem to know how to bump. there is literally no attempt to engage the wr at the line. and if that has gone by for 5 seasons with all of our guys failing to do this, how is that not coaching? how do you not believe this is an issue of bad practice habbits and not teaching our guys all the fundamentals. it's like our coaches are always trying to cut corners.

Not even gonna argue with you cause you have no clue what you're seeing.

There's no defense in existence that has your CB line-up 15 yards off the ball. Just stop.

hey coach nacho. you sound more full of yourself than even folden. smartest guy in the room right here and actually believs his own bs

 

[brock]

Howard played really good yesterday. He was hitting, he even hit dalvin cook for no gain in an open field tackle....