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Targeting?

OrangeBowlMagic said:
Have said this for what seems like 10 years now. Soccer sucks, but something that mimics their card system makes sense. Level 1 vs Level 2 flagrant type stuff. Not all targeting is created equal, although since they can't even figure out what's targeting and what isn't, it would be hilarious for them judging a "level 1" vs "level 2".

Either way, it's totally broken and has been forever.
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Rules folks haven’t been able to agree on appropriate handling, so they seek cover by saying rule protects both players, in particular highlighting the defender delivering the blow.
 
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I’m all for players safety especially in the head and neck area

But you rarely see (in my opinion) a kid that’s clearly trying to injure someone

What you usually see is just a random collision and the referees kicking a kid out of a game mostly by chance

It’s a great idea completely ruined by execution and explanation
 
JHallCanes said:
I’m all for players safety especially in the head and neck area

But you rarely see (in my opinion) a kid that’s clearly trying to injure someone

What you usually see is just a random collision and the referees kicking a kid out of a game mostly by chance

It’s a great idea completely ruined by execution and explanation
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Agree. Day launched himself for the tackle fine. The issue was that the returner dipped his head at the last second. That sealed Day's fate.
 
It's impossible for Day, who is going full speed down the field, to not make a tackle like the one he did. Either, the PR cannot crouch in order to receive the blow or two, Day must go for his legs and potentially ruin the PR's career. Day clearly did his best to put his helmet on the pads of the PR.
 
If it’s not called on the field and booth reviews and calls it shouldn’t be an ejection. Something has to change.
 
JHallCanes said:
I’m all for players safety especially in the head and neck area

But you rarely see (in my opinion) a kid that’s clearly trying to injure someone

What you usually see is just a random collision and the referees kicking a kid out of a game mostly by chance

It’s a great idea completely ruined by execution and explanation
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It seems every good football hit is called or reviewed for targeting.
From a Miami player, or against a Miami player, a good football hit is a good football hit.

They should look more closely at the tacklers intended strike area a second before the hit instead of the hit itself where the ball-carrier has lowered his head.
 
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NJshoreCane said:
It seems every good football hit is called or reviewed for targeting.
From a Miami player, or against a Miami player, a good football hit is a good football hit.

They should look more closely at the tacklers intended strike area a second before the hit instead of the hit itself where the ball-carrier has lowered his head.
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Yeah the issue with trying to judge intent is we are now asking human beings that can’t call a blatant holding call to now suddenly figure that out

It’s just a ******* mess all around
 
Targeting is the “ooh and aaaah” rule. There is helmet-helmet contact on **** near every play. If the crowd responds to the hit/tackle, the officials respond.
 
fraggle said:
Rule: The NCAA targeting rule penalizes forceful, forceful, or unnecessary contact to the head or neck of an opponent. Key factors include making forcible contact with the head, leading with the crown of the helmet, launching the body, or attacking a defenseless player. The foul results in a 15-yard penalty and an automatic ejection, with ejections in the second half also incurring a suspension for the first half of the next game
I don't see this as targeting:

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Textbook targeting.

Ouch.

Just like the hold was textbook in EZ.

The textbook flowchart also says, "***** Miami? Throw flag. ***** Miami? Also hold flag."
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Day was actually tackling an imaginary player behind the nole and he happened to be in between. Go loook at some of the great Packer teams Lombardi coached and thats how they hit opponents.
 
MikeCane18 said:
This is the entire problem with the ejection part of the rule. The game is not played in super slo-mo like the reviews.
It should be a tiered system ejection, like flagrant fouls in basketball. Had Day jumped in the air WWE flying headbutt style, OK, ejection makes sense. You're reviewing the play anyways should be able to determine intent.

Secondarily, they never call this penalty on ball carriers dropping their helmets and leading with the crown on offense.

I just simply hate the rule.
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I said as soon as the rule was announced that it would do much more harm to the game than any good that was supposed to come from it.
 
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It’s a safety foul, and they have to call it (parents are literally pulling their kids from playing)…

However the rule needs to be adjusted based on video review of whether there was a clear launch or just a “bang bang” play such as in Dylan Days case. 15 yard penalty is sufficient for the Dylan Day play but out 4 quarters is way too much.
 
Its targeting because its miami. Same with the ******* bs ticky tack personal foul calls and the motion penalty that took the td off the board. That **** happens every game and it aint ever called but we're miami so refs gonna throw the bs flags on us. **** we just gotta deal with and overcome
 
1) The rule should be clarified to state that if a punt returner chooses to forgo a fair catch, they also forgo being a defenseless player as soon as they secure possession. That would limit the targeting component.

2) My big fear going into ACC play is that ACC refs will start calling random targeting penalties on UM forcing us to lose playing time for key players.
 
SFbayCane said:
1) The rule should be clarified to state that if a punt returner chooses to forgo a fair catch, they also forgo being a defenseless player as soon as they secure possession. That would limit the targeting component.

2) My big fear going into ACC play is that ACC refs will start calling random targeting penalties on UM forcing us to lose playing time for key players.
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I don't remember what team it was but there is a video where a punt receiver acts like he signaled a fair catch and when everyne relaxed he ran 80 yards for a TD, its similar to the Pitt QB who faked a slide, the defense relaxed and then he ran for a TD That caused a new rule that QB's cannot fake a slide.
 
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