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Agreed DMoney and none of what you said is really hard to see.

My number 4 is the utter inability to make in-game adjustments to take advantage of flaws or weaknesses in our opponent's talent and scheme. I can't think of a single game where we came out AFTER the half and lit a team up based on coaching adjustments.
 
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According to some on here, Miami barely has talent which is why Golden couldnt beat FSU but he proved he was a great coach bc we almostw won with far less talent
 
Saying we dont have money in recruiting is such a cop out. Alot of these So FL ballers are not getting any money to play elsewhere, they are simply being ignored by the MAC/Big Ten crew mentality. The have a LB committed right now from NJ and that kid is going to be a bust. He has nothing extra ordinary about it but they saw it fit to give him a scholly. man we are doomed i tell you
 
I laughed at the coal shoveler crap also. That was the biggest load of crap I have ever heard. Players dont respond to scrub guys that work hard, they respond to ballers, guys they respect on the field, who ball out. Undeniable superstars. Nobody was ever going to listen to those camp guys. I laughed at it on shadows board for a long time, and bought it up every time one of those coal shovelers left the program one by one, havent bought it up in awhile. Might have to again just for a little light hearted fun..

Get the players, they are out there, even the under the radar kids who produce maybe during senior year. Dont have to be rocket scientist, and try to be smartest guy in room and make a scrub into a player. Thats for the birds
 
There is plenty of talent at UM; maybe not "dominate Alabama" talent, but certainly "win the Coastal" and "beat FSU occasionally" talent. Golden is simply a loser. You can tell by looking at him and his stupid tie. He has no killer instinct and he can't comprehend simple mathematical concepts. He is an absolute embarrassment to the University and he will never recruit the kind of talent required to overcome his obvious deficits. Time to cut ties with him-- I can't fathom how this is even debatable among BOT members.
 
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a real coach wins runs through the ACC with the exception of FSU with our roster.
 
I don't disagree with anything you said, D. I think it basically hits it on the nose. I think Xs and Os and coaching ability have to be emphasized a bit, though. Those "ballers" pushing the 5 stars can't ball if they're not asked to do things that fit with their attributes. ****, the ACTUAL 5 stars can't perform up to their level if they're asked to do things that, in short, don't maximize their talents.

You didn't expound on it, but you did touch on (w/ the coal shovelers reference) the fact that has to do with our value system. It's not all about identification. It's also about what we value once the players are already here. It shows up in our actions. Our leadership (and, frankly, that's not just coaches, but that's another topic) values aspects that are not conducive to maximization of physical attributes and attitude.

I think that ultimately has the biggest bearing on the football output you see on Saturdays.

I think it's time to accept that we have enough talent and depth. Certainly, to produce more than we have. That, everyone, is the measure of a coach. We should not be getting pushed around the way we have in our losses. There's no "depth" reason why we looked flat and disinterested last night. There's no depth reason for GT or Nebraska. It's attitude and philosophy. And, Coach Golden is half right: it begins with him. However, it also ends with him.
 
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What is Jim Larranagas excuses? Why has his program not been crippled by the cloud?

How did he beat top 10 Florida? Based on how Golden supporters think, what Jim has done in such a short amount of time is scientifically impossible.
 
LuCane said:
I think you're devaluing Xs and Os and coaching ability a bit, though. Those "ballers" pushing the 5 stars can't ball if they're not asked to do things that fit with their attributes.
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Didn't mean to devalue it. Just left it for others to discuss who are better suited to do so than me. Obviously, it's the biggest difference between Miami and Alabama and the other elite programs.
 
DMoney said:
LuCane said:
I think you're devaluing Xs and Os and coaching ability a bit, though. Those "ballers" pushing the 5 stars can't ball if they're not asked to do things that fit with their attributes.
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Didn't mean to devalue it. Just left it for others to discuss who are better suited to do so than me. Obviously, it's the biggest difference between Miami and Alabama and the other elite programs.
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Ya, I edited my post. I realize you couldn't touch on every single deficient facet.

I just think it needs to be emphasized more. We don't have to be Xs and Os wizards, but being on an even playing field would be helpful, to say the least. I've beat this one to death, but so much of that is just simple attitude/aggression. And, some people will come on here and say "hey, we're not THAT bad in Xs and Os and the kids need to make more plays." Partly true. Have you ever played on a team where you feel you're always climbing uphill? I feel that's where our guys are. Our talented players shouldn't look worse than Virginia's or Nebraska's talented players.
 
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Good stuff DMoney.

The above, however, articulates why the Cloud has always been a pathetic excuse made by the staff and the fans.

I understand it may have hurt with a few blue chippers, but the third point is spot on. We've passed on a plethora of players in south Florida (Skai Moore, Burgess Jr., the list goes on), who could have made an impact on this team.

More frustrating is that these kids wanted to play for Miami. How many times have we heard our fans say "I only want kids who want to be 'Canes." Well, many of these kids would have bent over backwards to play for this program, but Golden turned them down.

The two Louisville losses over the past year have been horror shows of Golden's mistakes.
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^^This! We don't offer Skai (who is a whole **** of a lot better recruit than Josh Witt and Jawand Blue), yet now we are horribly thin at LB. And we lose Perryman and Armbrister. And those two losses to Louisville showed you a few things, Golden missed out on some great quality players who beat him silly, Golden got out coached with the same team with different coaches back to back, Golden and Co. had over a month to prepare for both games. And in both cases Golden and Co. layed an egg.
 
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DMoney said:
LuCane said:
I think you're devaluing Xs and Os and coaching ability a bit, though. Those "ballers" pushing the 5 stars can't ball if they're not asked to do things that fit with their attributes.
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Didn't mean to devalue it. Just left it for others to discuss who are better suited to do so than me. Obviously, it's the biggest difference between Miami and Alabama and the other elite programs.
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Ya, I edited my post. I realize you couldn't touch on every single deficient facet.

I just think it needs to be emphasized more. We don't have to be Xs and Os wizards, but being on an even playing field would be helpful, to say the least. I've beat this one to death, but so much of that is just simple attitude/aggression. And, some people will come on here and say "hey, we're not THAT bad in Xs and Os and the kids need to make more plays." Partly true. Have you ever played on a team where you feel you're always climbing uphill? I feel that's where our guys are. Our talented players shouldn't look worse than Virginia's or Nebraska's talented players.
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Has Trent Harris ever rushed the passer, or is he just a coverage specialist for us?
 
The players referenced were Shannon's. He could get talent but couldn't develop it. With Al it might be both.
 
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