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DMoney

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In early 2012, I had a conversation with a former Miami staffer who landed at Alabama. I congratulated him on Alabama's championship and told him that it must be nice to coach so many studs. He looked at me and said, "Miami's good players are better than Alabama's good players."

I couldn't believe it. Alabama was the national champion. Miami was 6-6 and coming off an embarrassing home loss to BC. Alabama had multiple projected first round picks. Miami had a few mid and late-round guys. But he was insistent.

"Lamar Miller is better than Trent Richardson. Olivier Vernon is better than Courtney Upshaw. And Seantrel Henderson is better than any lineman we've got. Watch them in the pros."

Now that we've seen those guys in the NFL, we know he was dead-on. Why were the programs so far apart on the field? The coach said it came down to football infrastructure (training table, strength and conditioning, medical staff) and depth. He left out coaching, for obvious reasons, but you can assume that's another factor. Once those guys get to the NFL, he said, all the external things will become equal and raw talent will prevail.

Golden has done a better job than Shannon in terms of player development; specifically, strength and conditioning. Perryman, Dorsett, Walford and Duke all got bigger and stronger without losing their speed. But why is a team with so many elite players struggling in a talentless Coastal division?

Coaching is an obvious factor that is being addressed in every other thread on this board. The other factor is depth. In my view, there are three reasons depth is not where it needs to be:

1- We cannot identify undervalued South Florida talent. We are the anti-Louisville in this regard. These South Florida three-stars should be the main source of depth for this team, along with blue-chip young players.

2- The camp has produced nothing. I've discussed this before, but it bears repeating: the camp is the biggest indictment of the Temple crew's talent evaluation skills. If Paul "Delaware" Williams offers a kid at the camp, I just assume it's a wasted scholarship.

3- The Temple coaches have a Northeastern, Parcells approach that does not work here. This relates to numbers 1 and 2. Golden says that you support the star players with "coal shovelers." His idea of a coal shoveler is a low-rated, low-maintenance guy who has ideal measurables to develop. That's crap. The meat of this program should be South Florida ballers who may lack a measurable or two. The guys that go to Louisville and talk **** to our five-stars. Football players, not projects with good attitudes. If we had been stacking these guys for four years, this team would look much, much different.

Right now, our best players are better than anybody's best players. Anybody. Watch Perryman, Dorsett, Flowers, Duke and Walford in the pros. No other Power Five school can match those upperclassmen. Four years later, Miami is still undefeated on Sunday and .500 on Saturday.
 
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I agree that recruiting and attrition have been average at best.

Let's not forget the SEVERE lack of X's and O's.

I guess what I'm saying is the same thing that your friend told you.

It's all synergistic. Right now we are a Green Machine with half the front tire worn flat.
 
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Amen.It is all about coaching.In four years Al Golden's signature win is Florida.They ended up winning four games that year and has now fired their coach.Al is a good communicator,a pretty face ,but a fraud as a coach.Every year we get beat in the second half and get worse as the season progresses.Lets face it we won two teams that came here beat up Cincy and a North Carolina team . Duke is proving to be a mediocre team.Al Golden and his process will never win in Miami ,our record is the final indictment of his failures.
 
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Good stuff DMoney.

The above, however, articulates why the Cloud has always been a pathetic excuse made by the staff and the fans.

I understand it may have hurt with a few blue chippers, but the third point is spot on. We've passed on a plethora of players in south Florida (Skai Moore, Burgess Jr., the list goes on), who could have made an impact on this team.

More frustrating is that these kids wanted to play for Miami. How many times have we heard our fans say "I only want kids who want to be 'Canes." Well, many of these kids would have bent over backwards to play for this program, but Golden turned them down.

The two Louisville losses over the past year have been horror shows of Golden's mistakes.
 
Well then it's a quick fix... Just gonna cost us a **** ton of money. Gotta spend money to make money!
 
Why did you wait so long to post this? Smh.

ive been saying this for the longest. All the people who claimed Golden inherited a " dumpster fire" we're just off as usual. Of course you will have people who don't know anything parrot these silly claims.

I've said this before, the b.c. Loss was one of the worse losses in modern miami history. For the people who think Miami was handicapped that first game vs Maryland 2011...that's nothin compared to the handicapped 3-8 garbage squad bc marched into miami and won.
 
South Florida only produces enough 3-4 olbs/tweener DEs that fit his version of the 3-4. And even they will then need to learn to play in space(hopefully). We don't produce enough 2-gap 3-4 NT, DE, Ilbs. There will never be depth for his front seven from south florida. He would have to recruit them nationally. But who wants to leave there comfort zone to come to a losing team.

Only a stubborn utter moron comes to the most fertile recruiting area in the country and implements a system that is the opposite of what is found in that fertile recruiting area.

He has to go.
 
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I had a Virginia fan tell me last night he thought we are the most talented team in the acc. At this point we were down by 2 scores.
 
Whoever our next head coach is he has to bring in his own SC coach,don't care who he ****es off.Can't have Swasey survive 3 straight coaching failures and he's still here like he has a lifetime contract and is untouchable.
 
Jeff Stoutland? Funny he would talk about Northeastern coaches like that, being one. But hey, he is coaching in the NFL.

In hindsight, maybe the interim tag shold have came off and we would have avoided the Golden **** Circus
 
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