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Superbowl/Wade Phillips proves point about using motion on offense.

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We've had so many debates on here about motion or lack thereof. It was refreshing to see Wade Phillips/belicheck show us why having a bunch of motions does not help Qbs all that much in modern football. Some of you think defenses can be tipped off for man or zone coverage using motion and that hasnt been true in years.

BOTH Wade and Bill would have a man following Edelman/Cooks in motion only to be playing zone behind it. Both QBs struggled reading the defenses because of it.

Of all the sucky aspects of Richts offense.. the lack of motion wasnt the issue. Im excited to see what Enos employs and if his motions are used for playcalls and matchup advantages or to try and read the defenses.
 
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It’s eye candy for college kids. Causes them to hesitate and think. Pro players are much more experienced and disciplined as a result motion isn’t as effective in the NFL. In college motion effects defenses much more. College and Pro is apples and oranges when it comes to things like motion.

Go Canes!
 
Motion does more than just help qb's read defenses, it also can get the defense out of position and it creates mismatches.

Last night's game was a poor example.
 
PSU Cane said:
You are comparing NFL players with NFL schemes to college kids and college schemes.

Many schemes in college do tip their hand with motion and other formation sets.
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The schemes are all recycled. Its not different. Bud foster does a lot of this too. Most all coaches use each others methods in ncaa and NFL.

The fact of the matter is, motion does not tip off defensive coverages like it did in the late 90s and early 2000s
 
iLoveTDs said:
Came here to say this.

I see players confused all the time by motion. Even in the nfl.
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Show me. I have a gamepass account. I can watch any game from coaches film. Please give me example of an NFL team using motion to tell the entire defenses coverage.

Ill wait patiently
 
Samson Doyo said:
It’s eye candy for college kids. Causes them to hesitate and think. Pro players are much more experienced and disciplined as a result motion isn’t as effective in the NFL. In college motion effects defenses much more. College and Pro is apples and oranges when it comes to things like motion.

Go Canes!
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This. Can't compare 2 of the best-coached pro teams in history with 2 weeks to prepare vs. college defenses.

But that's only scratching the surface. I advocate for motion because you can use it to dictate personnel/matchups and create advantageous opportunities for your players. The Rams used motion to get WRs/RBs matched on LBs all thoughout the season. Identifying man/zone coverage is low on the list of reasons why you'd want motion in an offense.

I guess OP agrees about this and that was the point he was making. So good thread I guess.
 
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Samson Doyo said:
It’s eye candy for college kids. Causes them to hesitate and think. Pro players are much more experienced and disciplined as a result motion isn’t as effective in the NFL. In college motion effects defenses much more. College and Pro is apples and oranges when it comes to things like motion.

Go Canes!
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Im talking about tipping off coverages. Its not apples and oranges. Motion effects both nfl and ncaa the same way. For matchup purposes and to prevent bump and run.
That's not my point.

My point is that motion does not tip off coverages.
 
HighSeas said:
This. Can't compare 2 of the best-coached pro teams in history with 2 weeks to prepare vs. college defenses.

But that's only scratching the surface. I advocate for motion because you can use it to dictate personnel/matchups and create advantageous opportunities for your players. The Rams used motion to get WRs/RBs matched on LBs all thoughout the season. Identifying man/zone coverage is low on the list of reasons why you'd want motion in an offense.
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Reread my posts. We dont disagree
 
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Samson Doyo said:
It’s eye candy for college kids. Causes them to hesitate and think. Pro players are much more experienced and disciplined as a result motion isn’t as effective in the NFL. In college motion effects defenses much more. College and Pro is apples and oranges when it comes to things like motion.

Go Canes!
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That's not true. Patriots murdered KC's defense with motion.
 
Coach Macho said:
The motions aren't done simply to identify coverage. They're done to create free releases for the WR's, specifically in man coverage. Motions and stacks kill man coverage.
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Macho, you know i understand this.This post is strictly for the madden players who beg for motion in order to help our qbs identify coverages. Its not intended to discount the use or advantages of motion.
 
What a bizarre thread.

Did anyone ever say that motion would be our saving grace?

No.

Did everyone basically say “can we see some ******* motion please?”

In response to the fact defenses clearly could see what was coming.

Yes.

So you make the leap to suddenly compare 100+ schools made up of teenagers to the two greatest collections of football players and coaches on the planet?

Go to sleep.
 
Don’t think anyone advocated for motion purely as means to identify coverage. Or maybe they did... i dunno.

Either way tho, why extrapolate what the duke defender will do based on what the New England patriot defense does.
 
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