Strength and Conditioning Staff

This is going to come off as a rant because It's 1:30 am and I just finish watching "The U" 30 for 30 for the 30,000th time so my thoughts are kind of sporadic. For that I apologize in advance.
I am just wondering what it is going to take for us to get back to the mountain top and stay there in the modern era.

Similar to how Rellyrell is passionate about athletic apparel, sneakers, branding and risk management, I am very passionate about Strength and Conditioning and Athletic Performance.

I love Miami, always have-always will, but we have not been ELITE in the S&C department since the Tommy Moffit days in the late 90's/early 2000s. Like our facilities and willingness to pay top dollar for coaches, our S&C department fell below standard. We (Shalala) got lazy and gave the football program the bare minimum when it came to actually investing $$$ in the program. REAL $$$. We had to have a former baseball player Tim Bellamy had to basically beg to become the Football program's nutritionist because get this: WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE!! Guys would grab a Muscle Milk on the way out the weight room and hope for the best I guess.

We became stagnant with Swasey, who some will argue was not as qualified as we had originally believed. He is at Colorado now, so I will be watching them closely this year. Guys like Mickey Marotti have 4 rings from 2 teams because they are ever learning. This field has evolved over the years and it can get very complex with new trends and the latest studies. I believe a guy like Aron Feld is very qualified and knows what he's doing, but I am going to be honest here.... The elite have their top guys on "special protein" and their "A" in BCAA's stands for Anabolic.
Most of the schools have no direct contact with the entities that have the SARMS, HGH, EPO, Peptides, IGF-1, etc..... you know for plausible deniability I suppose, but there are systems in place for sure. Similar to the "bag" network each (SEC) school unofficially had before NIL. I have a friend who was a former IFBB bodybuilding pro who is now a LPN and Personal Trainer who "helps" Georgia players along with a friend of his who is a doctor (who runs a TRT clinic). Remember a few years back when those Alabama players got caught for using deer antler spray? That was child's play compared to what really goes on. Especially today. So until we somehow, somewhat enter into these waters we automatically give up an advantage to these teams on our quest for a National Title.


Just to take a quick peak at what elite S&C programs consist of LEGALLY

1. We have Alabama and David Ballou showing off their new weight room that has Elite Form (tm) force generation/power output data display (from 10 years ago) to the newer hinge machines like the Back Attack which increases the posterior chain load as the movement is performed. There is also a standing chest press that emphasizes training how you play football (On one or two feet). Mind you Saban hired Ballou as the Director of Athletic Performance and Dr. Matt Rhea as the Director of Sports Science.



2. In the LSU facility tour look at how they have collagen, pre workout, tart cherry juice and creatine in a assembly line fashion for players to consume. Also notice the quick digesting calories that contain carbohydrates and proteins at the post workout section of the video. Highly regulated, Highly intentional. I WILL say that I believe we will have this and more once our football operations facility is complete.




I know this post was kind of all over the place but would like to know y'all thoughts, especially if there are any strength coaches or athletic trainers in here.

Go Canes!

Currently, there probably isn’t a whole lot that LSU and Bama are doing that we aren’t.

Those elite strength and conditioning programs were elite because they had elite players.

Same with ours through the 80s and early 00s.

When you’re consistently bringing in the best players, you’re S&C looks amazing.
 
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Currently, there probably isn’t a whole lot that LSU and Bama are doing that we aren’t.

Those elite strength and conditioning programs were elite because they had elite players.

Same with ours through the 80s and early 00s.

When you’re consistently bringing in the best players, you’re S&C looks amazing.
If I read Tommy ******* Moffits name on this board one more time I’m gonna throw up

The idea that he had some sort of secret workout plan that turned 3 stars into Hall of Famers is…hilarious to say the least

But I’ll let people hold on to whatever memories they need
 
Currently, there probably isn’t a whole lot that LSU and Bama are doing that we aren’t.

Those elite strength and conditioning programs were elite because they had elite players.

Same with ours through the 80s and early 00s.

When you’re consistently bringing in the best players, you’re S&C looks amazing.
Absolutely correct, I forgot to mention that …my fault. This is the MOST important piece of the equation by far.
 
If I read Tommy ******* Moffits name on this board one more time I’m gonna throw up

The idea that he had some sort of secret workout plan that turned 3 stars into Hall of Famers is…hilarious to say the least

But I’ll let people hold on to whatever memories they need
Not sure how old you are but I am 39 so when it comes to the last time I remember our S&C looking elite was 98-03. The only two names I know that were running things during that time period were Moffitt and Swasey. If I remember correctly Swasey was initially the speed guy. Again this is from MY point of view. I am on the outside looking in as a casual fan. You may have more insight into the situation than me, and this is why I asked for anyone’s thoughts because I realize my assessment could be completely wrong.
 
Not sure how old you are but I am 39 so when it comes to the last time I remember our S&C looking elite was 98-03. The only two names I know that were running things during that time period were Moffitt and Swasey. If I remember correctly Swasey was initially the speed guy. Again this is from MY point of view. I am on the outside looking in as a casual fan. You may have more insight into the situation than me, and this is why I asked for anyone’s thoughts because I realize my assessment could be completely wrong.
I’m older than you

We recruited better players who wanted to be great

It’s not rocket science

You think Swasey made Devin Hester fast? PBuch? The “Swasey was a speed guy” is insane

Or did he just go “hey man run that way”

Sean Taylor used to talk about not lifting at all

We’ve been recruiting soft south Florida pussies that would rather play video games than do what it takes to be great. An S&C coach has what…a few hours a week with a player?

If everyone spends the same hour at the gym why do people look so much different?

It’s because of the other 23

Nothing personal to you here it’s just something I wish would die
 
I’m older than you

We recruited better players who wanted to be great

It’s not rocket science

You think Swasey made Devin Hester fast? PBuch? The “Swasey was a speed guy” is insane

Or did he just go “hey man run that way”

Sean Taylor used to talk about not lifting at all

We’ve been recruiting soft south Florida pussies that would rather play video games than do what it takes to be great. An S&C coach has what…a few hours a week with a player?

If everyone spends the same hour at the gym why do people look so much different?

It’s because of the other 23

Nothing personal to you here it’s just something I wish would die
I Gotcha brother. All good. Insight like yours is much appreciated.
 
I Gotcha brother. All good. Insight like yours is much appreciated.
It’s always kinda been the old saying “opposites attract” is false. Likes attract.

Mario is a tuff and physical type guy. Very high character. Doesn’t seem terribly bright. A lot of our support staff has been the same way and the players have been as well. But I think these guys are prepared to work hard or they’re out

One of my close friends is considered an elite level high school trainer in football and basketball and when you go to one of his sessions, it’s kids that are pure animals. The trainer can certainly unlock potential but you also can’t make the horse drink water so to speak
 
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S&C has gone different ways but the foundation is largely unchanged. Support staff with nutrition and money in that is more important IMO.

You can see the makeup of the athletes in high school, we haven’t had beasts like that on this team in a long time until maybe recently.

I’m curious to see how the DEs develop because the guys currently have the prototype for it.
 
I'm not a S&C expert but I've been working out since the late 1970s.
My unsolicited pov from years of doing this, not all S&C coaches are created equal. Some are better than others, but the science involved is no big secret. Every S&C coaches knows what their colleagues are doing in the weight room and nutritionally as well.
Big differences between programs are as follows:
1) elite schools recruit bigger and faster athletes. Credit to the coaches who recruit.
2) elite schools recruit athletes who want to work on and off the field, eat right and take care of themselves. Credit to the kids and the coaches who recruit them.
3) Sometimes schools get lucky and recruit a kid, or group of kids, who continued to grow while maintaining their athleticism. Credit to the coaches
Don't get me wrong, S&C coaches are important but moreso as motivators and teachers of how to work out, but at the end of the day it's on the kids. Tommy Moffit was a great S&C, but athletes like DJ Williams and Wilfork were already alpha men when they showed up to campus. So to me S&C is about genetics and hard-working players.
 
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Those elite strength and conditioning programs were elite because they had elite players.

Same with ours through the 80s and early 00s.

When you’re consistently bringing in the best players, you’re S&C looks amazing.

Agree with this.

Scott Cochran said it best when he was the head S&C guy during Bama's run "Your a Bentley rigtht now, I'm just trying to put spinners on that thing"
 
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I'm not a S&C expert but I've been working out since the late 1970s.
My unsolicited pov from years of doing this, not all S&C coaches are created equal. Some are better than others, but the science involved is no big secret. Every S&C coaches knows what their colleagues are doing in the weight room and nutritionally as well.
Big differences between programs are as follows:
1) elite schools recruit bigger and faster athletes. Credit to the coaches who recruit.
2) elite schools recruit athletes who want to work on and off the field, eat right and take care of themselves. Credit to the kids and the coaches who recruit them.
3) Sometimes schools get lucky and recruit a kid, or kids, who continued to grow whole maintaining their athleticism. Credit to the coaches
Don't get me wrong, S&C coaches are important but moreso as motivators and teachers of how to work out but at the end of the day it's on the kids. Tommy Moffit was a great S&C, but athletes like DJ Williams and Wilfork were already alpha men when they showed up to campus. So to me S&C is about genetics and hard-working players.
Good stuff. There’s no doubt the trainer matters but not necessarily the way people think. You hit it on the head

Good coaches no matter what their field just know what to do and say to get the most out of their clients. Same could be said in general for X and O coordinators really

It’s how good they are at applying the material I guess is what I mean
 
I ran it by Cribby before the bowl and he hadn’t heard anything so I let it go but there was smoke that Feld was going to quit. Rumored for just personal/family reasons but apparently he hit a rough patch and went MIA and burned some relationships with his staff

These lateral moves seem to confirm it
Rumors were legit. Just took longer for it to happen.
 
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