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Strength and conditioning coach Aaron Feld steps away from Miami

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TheOriginalCane said:
Look, man, you are losing the battle here.

Why? Because the use of the term "coordinator" in this respect is a way to accentuate the PAY, and really doesn't have much to do with THE JOB.

For decades, the S&C job was a COACH. Real "coordinators" (offense/defense) coordinated one side of the playcalling and the position coaches that are related to that side of the ball.

You didn't really have a Special Teams COORDINATOR ("coach") in much the same way that you didn't have a Strength & Conditioning COORDINATOR.

But more recently, with finding a need to pay higher salaries, and/or building larger and more specialized staffs for S&C, the title "coordinator" is being used more frequently than "coach". But let's not pretend that the job of an S&C COORDINATOR is at quite the same level as an OC or a DC, at least in your ability to "analyze his past job descriptions and titles" in order to form an opinion on whether he is qualified and/or ready to do the job.

Also, don't act like he got "promoted" at UM just because Feld "left" in the past week. Feld pretty much told Mario he was stepping down months ago. To the extent that he was given one job title and then "elevated", it was more about preserving the timing of the announcment for Feld. But this has been known for longer than one week.

Having said all of that, how would you evaluate the Gators' "Game Changer Coordinator"? Did he have to work as a "Game Changer Coach" first?
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So all this to say I’m technically correct. The best type of correct.

Would you be happy with us hiring a game changer coordinator/coach at all? Emulating UF wouldn’t be a positive period so, that’s not a valid point lol
 
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ST26 said:
I take it that Young has primarily been the lead strength and conditioning coach the last few weeks/months. The players seem to rally behind him, which is extremely important. This transition has clearly been in the works for a while now, so stop whining about it. Also, as long as we continue to recruit at a high level, we really should have no problems with our strength and conditioning. I don't understand why this is such an issue for you
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Who is saying it’s such an issue? lol. I view it as a C to B- hire. What’s the issue with me saying that? Do you have some evidence that he should be viewed as an A hire? Like what is even talks argument against me saying it’s a lackluster hire? That it could be a good hire? Okay it could also be a bad one. What would make you more confident he was a good hire is if he had proven it before, which he hasn’t. So what I’m saying is perfectly valid. And again It’s not like I said dude was trash, I said it was a lackluster hire
 
Calinative said:
Who is saying it’s such an issue? lol. I view it as a C to B- hire. What’s the issue with me saying that? Do you have some evidence that he should be viewed as an A hire? Like what is even talks argument against me saying it’s a lackluster hire? That it could be a good hire? Okay it could also be a bad one. What would make you more confident he was a good hire is if he had proven it before, which he hasn’t. So what I’m saying is perfectly valid. And again It’s not like I said dude was trash, I said it was a lackluster hire
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Without you being part of the staff that hired him or even close to the team, you can say it's a lackluster hire.

Doesn't make it correct or you correct. It's an uninformed opinion based on something that's grossly overrated by you because of an apparent lack of experience both on the educational and the practical side.
 
Bender said:
Without you being part of the staff that hired him or even close to the team, you can say it's a lackluster hire.

Doesn't make it correct or you correct. It's an uninformed opinion based on something that's grossly overrated by you because of an apparent lack of experience both on the educational and the practical side.
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Everyone on this board is making uninformed opinions daily regarding every coach and recruitment then lol. You’re essentially questioning why this website exists
 
Calinative said:
Who is saying it’s such an issue? lol. I view it as a C to B- hire. What’s the issue with me saying that? Do you have some evidence that he should be viewed as an A hire? Like what is even talks argument against me saying it’s a lackluster hire? That it could be a good hire? Okay it could also be a bad one. What would make you more confident he was a good hire is if he had proven it before, which he hasn’t. So what I’m saying is perfectly valid. And again It’s not like I said dude was trash, I said it was a lackluster hire
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The reason people like you view schools like Alabama, Georgia, and Ohio State as having "strong" strength and conditioning programs is because they continuously recruit the best athletes and have good facilities, not because their coordinators put together the best workouts lol. Just take a look at Young's academic background- I think we'll be more than fine lol
 
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Calinative said:
So all this to say I’m technically correct. The best type of correct.

Would you be happy with us hiring a game changer coordinator/coach at all? Emulating UF wouldn’t be a positive period so, that’s not a valid point lol
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I'm just pointing out that this resume "progression" from S&C "Coach" to S&C "Coordinator" has never existed previously.

It has nothing to do with me being "happy" or "unhappy". I'm just observing the changing times.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
I'm just pointing out that this "progression" from S&C "Coach" to S&C "Coordinator" has never existed previously.

It has nothing to do with me being "happy" or "unhappy". I'm just observing the changing times.
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Well when the poster literally tries to clown on me for calling him a coordinator, when the announcement LITERALLY calls him a coordinator, you can see why I’d laugh at that entire argument lol. I’m just factually correct when I called him a coordinator, all the debate anyone wants to have about if it’s really a coordinator or whatever is irrelevant. And in fact if you are leading the S&C program and designing the gameplan and in charge why wouldn’t you be every bit the coordinator that the OC/DC/RGC/PGC is? Like sure it a title. But often the titles have meaning and are a valid description of the role
 
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Funny you mention UF. I am in agreement with Urban on this one, the strength and conditioning coach is the most important coach on the team. He spends more time with players than any other coach, he instills, discipline, work ethic and has to be a jack of all trades. All of Mario's coaches have to be relatively young to work for him. All the 50+ year old coaches Mario has hired, are all gone. They simply can't handle the hrs, demand. They are ridiculous, but you don't have to work for him. If your established and old, you aren't working those hrs. A end with UF, Tebow thanked his S&C coach in his Heisman acceptance speech. We all have opinions. The answer to the debate can only be a opinion.
 
Calinative said:
not mutually exclusive
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Then what exactly is your issue with him then? I get that he’s only been leading our strength and conditioning for a few months now and he hasn’t had that title before, but are you really that concerned about Young’s ability to put together workouts for these players? With the way we’ve been recruiting, there should really be no concerns about this hire. Also, if Young wasn’t working out, they would have brought in someone new before the summer session
 
Calinative said:
I say I like Chicken and you take that to mean I don’t like steak…
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I understand that reading comprehension is really, really, really hard at times but you called it a lackluster hire due to him never being a coordinator.

You don't have to be a coordinator at a previous stop to be a coordinator on your next hire. Coordinators delegate and work with assistants and construct plans all the time, especially in the strength department. It doesn't matter. We've tried to explain this to you more than once and you were unwilling to understand what we were trying to say.

Aaron Feld was a assistant strength coach for three years at Georgia, equalling the same position Young had, and was hired by Oregon to lead the department. It's not that deep.
 
Bender said:
The difference is no one in here states "I'm technically correct" after their posts.
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Can't say youre correct when youre incorrect. And notice the person that originally brought up that point dropped it once I pointed out how I was 100% correct lol.
 
Bender said:
I understand that reading comprehension is really, really, really hard at times but you called it a lackluster hire due to him never being a coordinator.

You don't have to be a coordinator at a previous stop to be a coordinator on your next hire. Coordinators delegate and work with assistants and construct plans all the time, especially in the strength department. It doesn't matter. We've tried to explain this to you more than once and you were unwilling to understand what we were trying to say.

Aaron Feld was a assistant strength coach for three years at Georgia, equalling the same position Young had, and was hired by Oregon to lead the department. It's not that deep.
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So on a scale of F to A, what grade are you giving the Hire? I agree it's not that deep. So give a grade
 
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Cane30 said:
Funny you mention UF. I am in agreement with Urban on this one, the strength and conditioning coach is the most important coach on the team. He spends more time with players than any other coach, he instills, discipline, work ethic and has to be a jack of all trades. All of Mario's coaches have to be relatively young to work for him. All the 50+ year old coaches Mario has hired, are all gone. They simply can't handle the hrs, demand. They are ridiculous, but you don't have to work for him. If your established and old, you aren't working those hrs. A end with UF, Tebow thanked his S&C coach in his Heisman acceptance speech. We all have opinions. The answer to the debate can only be a opinion.
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Nah S&C coordinator isn't important whatsoever and nobody is allowed to think a hire in that role is 'meh' and not super confidence inspiring.
 
Calinative said:
Well when the poster literally tries to clown on me for calling him a coordinator, when the announcement LITERALLY calls him a coordinator, you can see why I’d laugh at that entire argument lol. I’m just factually correct when I called him a coordinator, all the debate anyone wants to have about if it’s really a coordinator or whatever is irrelevant. And in fact if you are leading the S&C program and designing the gameplan and in charge why wouldn’t you be every bit the coordinator that the OC/DC/RGC/PGC is? Like sure it a title. But often the titles have meaning and are a valid description of the role
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You were correct on the title, he was not.

But I wouldn't read too much into that, as THE JOB has historically been a "coach" job, not a "coordinator" job.

For now, all I care about is whether Mario is happy with this guy. I don't care about the titles. If Mario wanted "someone else" and then had to settle for this guy, that wouldn't be great. But if we waited for this guy to become available, I'm fine with that.

Time will tell. If sleeves go unfilled, it will not be a good thing.
 
Calinative said:
So on a scale of F to A, what grade are you giving the Hire? I agree it's not that deep. So give a grade
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He has the necessary qualifications at an expert level, has translated that towards a gradual increase in roles and opportunities in College Football, knows the players and is familiar with both their work, plans and habits and has worked in this field for ten years at the very minimum coaching young athletes.

It's a B. It'll improve to an A if we have a healthy team and well developed freshmen.
 
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