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[252cane]

This is a bit doom and gloom, but I swear, it would be just like this program to take several months on this search only to strike out on all of our primary targets (whoever they may be) and then turn around to find Butch got tired of waiting and being a "back-up plan" and accepted any one of the many open jobs out there.

Butch aint getting another job. It's here or espn for him.

 

[LuCane]

That committee and the stuff they're leaking is becoming a really funny dance with core fans.

Do you feel like the committee is leaking info on "big names" to hide the fact they're really going after Butch/Mario, or are they leaking info on Butch/Mario to hide the fact they're going after big names???


...I need a scotch.

I think they're leaking names because they don't have a clear approach (outside of the brainstorming phase) yet. I've heard some of the talks they're having - even just between some former golden era (not that Golden) players. Perhaps it's changed in the last week. I think stuff has a tendency to fall on its face unless you create a specific way to measure each candidate. Whether you're talking about football, health care or landscaping. I'm not suggesting they have to be fixed or rigid. But, at least measure out the rationale so this doesn't come down to a former player or some random committee member providing their feelings. Maybe that will happen. That's not really the role of the search firm, though.

For example, as a hypothetical, how does Charlie Strong measure out above Tom Herman? Are they digging into the context of his success at Louisville and how that would translate? I realize there are very smart people on that committee, and it makes me feel a bit better that someone as wildly thorough as Vilma is at least involved. I just find it odd that, if you feel the need to put together an entire gang of perspectives, you don't ask yourself "why?" Do you not feel confident in your AD? Are you openly repeating that this final decision will come down to him because you want a potential scapegoat?

More questions than answers. Sorry.

 

[RoboCane]

I'm more inclined to believe that Blake James is an idiot and has allowed this to leak. Unbelievable that he considers Butch a "fall back option". Butch should be given the same look as the others. BJ is out of his league and this shows it.

 

[AUcane]

It's interesting to watch. Iirc, back when they hired golden the search was pretty tightly sealed, no? I thought they did a good job of keeping that stuff under wraps. Did I mis remember?

 

[252cane]

That committee and the stuff they're leaking is becoming a really funny dance with core fans.

Do you feel like the committee is leaking info on "big names" to hide the fact they're really going after Butch/Mario, or are they leaking info on Butch/Mario to hide the fact they're going after big names???


...I need a scotch.

I think they're leaking names because they don't have a clear approach (outside of the brainstorming phase) yet. I've heard some of the talks they're having - even just between some former golden era (not that Golden) players. Perhaps it's changed in the last week. I think stuff has a tendency to fall on its face unless you create a specific way to measure each candidate. Whether you're talking about football, health care or landscaping. I'm not suggesting they have to be fixed or rigid. But, at least measure out the rationale so this doesn't come down to a former player or some random committee member providing their feelings. Maybe that will happen. That's not really the role of the search firm, though.

For example, as a hypothetical, how does Charlie Strong measure out above Tom Herman? Are they digging into the context of his success at Louisville and how that would translate? I realize there are very smart people on that committee, and it makes me feel a bit better that someone as wildly thorough as Vilma is at least involved. I just find it odd that, if you feel the need to put together an entire gang of perspectives, you don't ask yourself "why?" Do you not feel confident in your AD? Are you openly repeating that this final decision will come down to him because you want a potential scapegoat?

More questions than answers. Sorry.

Most colleges uses a search firm.

 

[LuCane]

That committee and the stuff they're leaking is becoming a really funny dance with core fans.

Do you feel like the committee is leaking info on "big names" to hide the fact they're really going after Butch/Mario, or are they leaking info on Butch/Mario to hide the fact they're going after big names???


...I need a scotch.

I think they're leaking names because they don't have a clear approach (outside of the brainstorming phase) yet. I've heard some of the talks they're having - even just between some former golden era (not that Golden) players. Perhaps it's changed in the last week. I think stuff has a tendency to fall on its face unless you create a specific way to measure each candidate. Whether you're talking about football, health care or landscaping. I'm not suggesting they have to be fixed or rigid. But, at least measure out the rationale so this doesn't come down to a former player or some random committee member providing their feelings. Maybe that will happen. That's not really the role of the search firm, though.

For example, as a hypothetical, how does Charlie Strong measure out above Tom Herman? Are they digging into the context of his success at Louisville and how that would translate? I realize there are very smart people on that committee, and it makes me feel a bit better that someone as wildly thorough as Vilma is at least involved. I just find it odd that, if you feel the need to put together an entire gang of perspectives, you don't ask yourself "why?" Do you not feel confident in your AD? Are you openly repeating that this final decision will come down to him because you want a potential scapegoat?

More questions than answers. Sorry.

Most colleges uses a search firm.

The search firm's role is more likely to be an intermediary. I am missing your point.

 

[ghost2]

That committee and the stuff they're leaking is becoming a really funny dance with core fans.

Do you feel like the committee is leaking info on "big names" to hide the fact they're really going after Butch/Mario, or are they leaking info on Butch/Mario to hide the fact they're going after big names???


...I need a scotch.

I think they're leaking names because they don't have a clear approach (outside of the brainstorming phase) yet. I've heard some of the talks they're having - even just between some former golden era (not that Golden) players. Perhaps it's changed in the last week. I think stuff has a tendency to fall on its face unless you create a specific way to measure each candidate. Whether you're talking about football, health care or landscaping. I'm not suggesting they have to be fixed or rigid. But, at least measure out the rationale so this doesn't come down to a former player or some random committee member providing their feelings. Maybe that will happen. That's not really the role of the search firm, though.

For example, as a hypothetical, how does Charlie Strong measure out above Tom Herman? Are they digging into the context of his success at Louisville and how that would translate? I realize there are very smart people on that committee, and it makes me feel a bit better that someone as wildly thorough as Vilma is at least involved. I just find it odd that, if you feel the need to put together an entire gang of perspectives, you don't ask yourself "why?" Do you not feel confident in your AD? Are you openly repeating that this final decision will come down to him because you want a potential scapegoat?

More questions than answers. Sorry.

Perhaps it's just wishful thinking, but since the committee was just recently formed they may simply be in the "name-collecting/brainstorming" phase and the next few weeks will provide the more thorough analysis of each candidate?

I suspect (again, just gut) that it's not necessarily a lack of confidence in the AD that created this committee. Rather, it seems to be more of a "let's not ***** this up" approach... If it were simply a lack of trust in Blake James they'd just make him hire Butch or whoever the top BoT guys want right now without spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on a nationally-recognized search firm. Even if they wanted to give the appearance of legitimacy in that scenario they could've just hired Neinas again but they didn't.

I'm not connected to the program in any way so I may be way off, but that's what it feels like to me (hope springs eternal...)

 

[Klamalama]

As this hiring search drags on. I have less and less confidence that they are going to get it right. Now UM has hired the services of a search firm who to stole money and recommended Brady Hoke to Michigan. Instead of speaking to Butch Davis already they are sending "Do you like me? Yes or No?" notes to Mullen, Strong and Tubberville. I hope DiMare and Miller are tightening the screws to get Butch back but I just have this feeling that UM Is going to fawk this up.
I am preparing myself for five more years of shiddy football. How quickly they forget about the NCAA mess that they handed Butch yet are worried about Butch's possible indiscretions which he has already been cleared. If anyone should understand what it is like to be falsely persecuted by allegedly NCAA wrongdoings it should be UM. I hate this false sense of elitism and entitlement that this administration has yet have contributed nothing to improve the program. Three shiddy hires in a row and they have learned nothing.

THIS!

We have a fine bunch of DOLTS, on this board. Instead of getting behind ONE candidate, we're splintered. This is exactly what the administration wants. This way they can push whomever they like. Does a day go by without some IDIOT bringing up another useless name? You may think you're helping by being "inclusive" but you're ******** the program by being another sensitive feminine, inadvertently sabotaging U football.

 

[DC Dog Nuts]

That committee and the stuff they're leaking is becoming a really funny dance with core fans.

Do you feel like the committee is leaking info on "big names" to hide the fact they're really going after Butch/Mario, or are they leaking info on Butch/Mario to hide the fact they're going after big names???


...I need a scotch.

I think they're leaking names because they don't have a clear approach (outside of the brainstorming phase) yet. I've heard some of the talks they're having - even just between some former golden era (not that Golden) players. Perhaps it's changed in the last week. I think stuff has a tendency to fall on its face unless you create a specific way to measure each candidate. Whether you're talking about football, health care or landscaping. I'm not suggesting they have to be fixed or rigid. But, at least measure out the rationale so this doesn't come down to a former player or some random committee member providing their feelings. Maybe that will happen. That's not really the role of the search firm, though.

For example, as a hypothetical, how does Charlie Strong measure out above Tom Herman? Are they digging into the context of his success at Louisville and how that would translate? I realize there are very smart people on that committee, and it makes me feel a bit better that someone as wildly thorough as Vilma is at least involved. I just find it odd that, if you feel the need to put together an entire gang of perspectives, you don't ask yourself "why?" Do you not feel confident in your AD? Are you openly repeating that this final decision will come down to him because you want a potential scapegoat?

More questions than answers. Sorry.

Most colleges uses a search firm.

But not to actually search for coaches. It's the conduit for schools and agents of coaches to communicate. They use it as a communications tool. Nothing more. Miami actually feels like they need to use a firm because the whole admin is inept at every thing they do and they think the firm will uncover some great coach that otherwise wouldn't have been known to Miami or interested in the job.

 

[Zubair ILyas]

Our boy Larry Fedora finally makes the rumor mill! Yezzir!

I was afraid this would happen.

 

[MIA42178]

BJ prefers to hire someone who has had success as a head coach.

So why the fck is Mario mentioned?!?!

 

[wacane]

BJ prefers to hire someone who has had success as a head coach.

So why the fck is Mario mentioned?!?!

He's really only been mentioned by the media(f*cking Feldman) as a possibility. We don't know if he's actually being considered

 

[252cane]

That committee and the stuff they're leaking is becoming a really funny dance with core fans.

Do you feel like the committee is leaking info on "big names" to hide the fact they're really going after Butch/Mario, or are they leaking info on Butch/Mario to hide the fact they're going after big names???


...I need a scotch.

I think they're leaking names because they don't have a clear approach (outside of the brainstorming phase) yet. I've heard some of the talks they're having - even just between some former golden era (not that Golden) players. Perhaps it's changed in the last week. I think stuff has a tendency to fall on its face unless you create a specific way to measure each candidate. Whether you're talking about football, health care or landscaping. I'm not suggesting they have to be fixed or rigid. But, at least measure out the rationale so this doesn't come down to a former player or some random committee member providing their feelings. Maybe that will happen. That's not really the role of the search firm, though.

For example, as a hypothetical, how does Charlie Strong measure out above Tom Herman? Are they digging into the context of his success at Louisville and how that would translate? I realize there are very smart people on that committee, and it makes me feel a bit better that someone as wildly thorough as Vilma is at least involved. I just find it odd that, if you feel the need to put together an entire gang of perspectives, you don't ask yourself "why?" Do you not feel confident in your AD? Are you openly repeating that this final decision will come down to him because you want a potential scapegoat?

More questions than answers. Sorry.

Most colleges uses a search firm.

The search firm's role is more likely to be an intermediary. I am missing your point.

I'm just saying to me the search firm really means nothing. The programs will hire who they want to and usually have a list of guys they are interested in.

 

[Foreman]

YES to Dan Mullen, could be Jimmy Pt two. Killer conference, tired of being little brother in the state. Solid record, championship pedigree.

 

[LuCane]

Do you feel like the committee is leaking info on "big names" to hide the fact they're really going after Butch/Mario, or are they leaking info on Butch/Mario to hide the fact they're going after big names???


...I need a scotch.

I think they're leaking names because they don't have a clear approach (outside of the brainstorming phase) yet. I've heard some of the talks they're having - even just between some former golden era (not that Golden) players. Perhaps it's changed in the last week. I think stuff has a tendency to fall on its face unless you create a specific way to measure each candidate. Whether you're talking about football, health care or landscaping. I'm not suggesting they have to be fixed or rigid. But, at least measure out the rationale so this doesn't come down to a former player or some random committee member providing their feelings. Maybe that will happen. That's not really the role of the search firm, though.

For example, as a hypothetical, how does Charlie Strong measure out above Tom Herman? Are they digging into the context of his success at Louisville and how that would translate? I realize there are very smart people on that committee, and it makes me feel a bit better that someone as wildly thorough as Vilma is at least involved. I just find it odd that, if you feel the need to put together an entire gang of perspectives, you don't ask yourself "why?" Do you not feel confident in your AD? Are you openly repeating that this final decision will come down to him because you want a potential scapegoat?

More questions than answers. Sorry.

Most colleges uses a search firm.

The search firm's role is more likely to be an intermediary. I am missing your point.

I'm just saying to me the search firm really means nothing. The programs will hire who they want to and usually have a list of guys they are interested in.

My sole mention of the search firm in the post you replied to was that it's not really their role to sit there and break down the candidates.

 

[miamifan007]

Paul and Miller do not need to be on the committee because they have already decided who is being hired. The committee is to placate the former players , give a couple women something to do, and make Blake feel important. The money wants Butch and money gets what is wants. I even think President Frenk wants Butch. His letter after the Duke crybaby crap is something I have never seen -- a UM President defending the football team about anything. I think the old Mexican might want to kick a little butt and who better than Butch. Maybe I am reading way to much into it but it was first time I ever saw it. I almost smashed Foote in the mouth back in the day because all he ever did was attack the team.

This all god **** day. People don't realize what talks, that's $$$. You bring in Butch these are the automatics upon hiring.

1. At least 60k season tickets sold for the 2016 season.

2. A huge increase in donations and Hurricane Club members. (Personally I'd become one again and donate more)

3. The CFB media going nuts.

4. The rest of the CFB world ****ting themselves.

 

[BigCaneAl]

The search committee's role will be to convince Miller, DiMare, Fain, Abess etc who to hire.....Nobody's getting hired without their blessing.

 

[the storm]

I don't think that this is the same search firm that recommended Brady Hoke to Michigan. That was Chuck Neinas. And I'm happy with it dragging on until Dec. 1st week so they have a chance to take a hard look at everyone who is interested which is exactly what they should be doing.

As this hiring search drags on. I have less and less confidence that they are going to get it right. Now UM has hired the services of a search firm who to stole money and recommended Brady Hoke to Michigan. Instead of speaking to Butch Davis already they are sending "Do you like me? Yes or No?" notes to Mullen, Strong and Tubberville. I hope DiMare and Miller are tightening the screws to get Butch back but I just have this feeling that UM Is going to fawk this up.
I am preparing myself for five more years of shiddy football. How quickly they forget about the NCAA mess that they handed Butch yet are worried about Butch's possible indiscretions which he has already been cleared. If anyone should understand what it is like to be falsely persecuted by allegedly NCAA wrongdoings it should be UM. I hate this false sense of elitism and entitlement that this administration has yet have contributed nothing to improve the program. Three shiddy hires in a row and they have learned nothing.

 

[Gatorhater]

The search committee's role will be to convince Miller, DiMare, Fain, Abess etc who to hire.....Nobody's getting hired without their blessing.

Actually, the committee will have to keep meeting until they figure out who DiMare and Miller have decided to hire. Then they can say, hey look we found Butch Davis.

 

[252cane]

I think they're leaking names because they don't have a clear approach (outside of the brainstorming phase) yet. I've heard some of the talks they're having - even just between some former golden era (not that Golden) players. Perhaps it's changed in the last week. I think stuff has a tendency to fall on its face unless you create a specific way to measure each candidate. Whether you're talking about football, health care or landscaping. I'm not suggesting they have to be fixed or rigid. But, at least measure out the rationale so this doesn't come down to a former player or some random committee member providing their feelings. Maybe that will happen. That's not really the role of the search firm, though.

For example, as a hypothetical, how does Charlie Strong measure out above Tom Herman? Are they digging into the context of his success at Louisville and how that would translate? I realize there are very smart people on that committee, and it makes me feel a bit better that someone as wildly thorough as Vilma is at least involved. I just find it odd that, if you feel the need to put together an entire gang of perspectives, you don't ask yourself "why?" Do you not feel confident in your AD? Are you openly repeating that this final decision will come down to him because you want a potential scapegoat?

More questions than answers. Sorry.

Most colleges uses a search firm.

The search firm's role is more likely to be an intermediary. I am missing your point.

I'm just saying to me the search firm really means nothing. The programs will hire who they want to and usually have a list of guys they are interested in.

My sole mention of the search firm in the post you replied to was that it's not really their role to sit there and break down the candidates.

Oh got you. I misunderstood what you were saying.