Something we may see this week

[fincane]

Last Oct, Manny said they were not coaching for December or January, as the entire staff was coaching to build a National Champion...if this still holds true this year, then Perry is the guy

Those are nice words from Manny but he wouldn't play a more talented player at LB who didn't know WTF they were doing.

 

[Southcane]

Sherriff and Rosier to be honest if Golden could recruit the position they wouldn't even be here.

It doesn't really matter at this time. You deal with what you have. You develop and improve the talent you have. That's where you earn your big paycheck. Many programs go through this every now and then. Like Franchise said, look no further than Alabama.

 

[wacane]

If Malik Rosier plays in a big game this year for us we are in a for a world of hurt. He's not a staring qb. Period. Rick giving perry every chance to win the job should tell you all you need to know about how much he trusts Rosier. Just because he's been a "top performer" in camp doesn't mean he's any good.

 

[fincane]

I just want the best man for the job. If Perry gets it and "fails", yall gon turn on him just like yall did with Kaaya....

This. If Perry is actually in the Top 2 then great.

Dmoney is literally calling for Perry to be handed a top-2 spot, something that goes completely against the way Richt runs his program.

Don't hand Perry anything. Make him earn it. If he's as good as Dmoney is saying, that shouldn't be an issue

Lots of assumptions going on here. These are controlled scimages where many serries are completely situational. Unfortunatley stats dont mean as much here as they do in normal game setting. We have no idea if we are comparing apples to apples here. There is also a major question surrounding progress. If Perry has made enough progress in the short time he has been here then Richt is responsible for giving him more reps to see where that progress goes. Perry has not ever even seen film of himself competing against a college level defense. All this talk about who should and should not get first team reps in nonsense. These coaches have seen everything and they are the best judges in how to move forward. If Perry gets more reps it aint because Richt wants him to start, its because he has shown potential that needs further analsyis. If Evans does then its the same. The truth is there are two spots up here for grabs. QB1 and QB2 both of which are super important when there is not a clear starting QB. The fact that Rosier has not been named the starter should say everything. Richt does not feel he is good enough to consistently execute the game plan.

You started your post talking about assumptions and then made one huge one at the end. Why hasn't he named Shirreffs the starter then?

People keep leaning on "it was situational" as if all the QBs weren't being put in the same situations. Did Perry have to drive the ball from his own 1 while the other guys got to play from the 40? They all were put in situations and some guys performed better.

 

[fincane]

If Malik Rosier plays in a big game this year for us we are in a for a world of hurt. He's not a staring qb. Period. Rick giving perry every chance to win the job should tell you all you need to know about how much he trusts Rosier. Just because he's been a "top performer" in camp doesn't mean he's any good.

People parroting that line tells me all I need to know about them. Richt said when Kaaya declared that Perry would get to compete. 8 months later people are still reading into something he told them from the jump.

 

[Salt]

That doesn't mean Perry is the better choice right now. There's so much more that goes into playing QB than just having the better arm or better legs.

Rosier and Sherrifs were far better in the scrimmage and actually give us a chance vs FSU. Starting Perry vs FSU would be the equivalent of handing a forfeit note to the ref.

The FSU game is 5 weeks away. As Richt said in his presser, the young QBs can improve exponentially while the veteran QBs will only make incremental improvements. Still a lot of football left to be played.

By the way, Rosier has thrown more picks this camp than Shirreffs and Perry combined. I'm not sure which one of those three is most ready to play FSU because they have one game of combined starting experience between them.

If that's the case I'd make Shirreffs and Perry my top two, Rosier has had plenty of time to get better and he hasn't. Gotta find a #1 soon.

as soon as I read that Rosier never bothered to watch film before Richt got here was enough to know he is not the qb you want managing your offense. I doubt the prior coaches were locking the film room so Rosier couldn't get in.

He didn't say that. Rosier said he didn't watch film before he had to start against Duke in 2015. It is still a horrendous quote but you are changing the quote.

I was not attempting to quote or else I would have used these " " but still doesn't detract from my point.

 

[al_canes]

Totally agree. Especially if that player was a TRUE freshmen

 

[al_canes]

I just want the best man for the job. If Perry gets it and "fails", yall gon turn on him just like yall did with Kaaya....

This. If Perry is actually in the Top 2 then great.

Dmoney is literally calling for Perry to be handed a top-2 spot, something that goes completely against the way Richt runs his program.

Don't hand Perry anything. Make him earn it. If he's as good as Dmoney is saying, that shouldn't be an issue

Lots of assumptions going on here. These are controlled scimages where many serries are completely situational. Unfortunatley stats dont mean as much here as they do in normal game setting. We have no idea if we are comparing apples to apples here. There is also a major question surrounding progress. If Perry has made enough progress in the short time he has been here then Richt is responsible for giving him more reps to see where that progress goes. Perry has not ever even seen film of himself competing against a college level defense. All this talk about who should and should not get first team reps in nonsense. These coaches have seen everything and they are the best judges in how to move forward. If Perry gets more reps it aint because Richt wants him to start, its because he has shown potential that needs further analsyis. If Evans does then its the same. The truth is there are two spots up here for grabs. QB1 and QB2 both of which are super important when there is not a clear starting QB. The fact that Rosier has not been named the starter should say everything. Richt does not feel he is good enough to consistently execute the game plan.

You started your post talking about assumptions and then made one huge one at the end. Why hasn't he named Shirreffs the starter then?

People keep leaning on "it was situational" as if all the QBs weren't being put in the same situations. Did Perry have to drive the ball from his own 1 while the other guys got to play from the 40? They all were put in situations and some guys performed better.

Agreed fincane....you can't tell these people anything, because they are drunk on wanting Perry to start regardless of what they see. I just hope Richt isn't the same way.

 

[Calinative]

This is simple. At this point Richt should know which QB between Rosier and Shireffs he'd choose as the starter. The only unknown Remaining is if Perry, who is clearly the most talented, is ready to start. Therefore the battle should be narrowed to Perry and Shireffs (or Perry).

This isn't complicated in any way. Perry gives us the best chance to win big. If he's not ready it comes down to one of the other two

 

[fincane]

The FSU game is 5 weeks away. As Richt said in his presser, the young QBs can improve exponentially while the veteran QBs will only make incremental improvements. Still a lot of football left to be played.

By the way, Rosier has thrown more picks this camp than Shirreffs and Perry combined. I'm not sure which one of those three is most ready to play FSU because they have one game of combined starting experience between them.

If that's the case I'd make Shirreffs and Perry my top two, Rosier has had plenty of time to get better and he hasn't. Gotta find a #1 soon.

as soon as I read that Rosier never bothered to watch film before Richt got here was enough to know he is not the qb you want managing your offense. I doubt the prior coaches were locking the film room so Rosier couldn't get in.

He didn't say that. Rosier said he didn't watch film before he had to start against Duke in 2015. It is still a horrendous quote but you are changing the quote.

I was not attempting to quote or else I would have used these " " but still doesn't detract from my point.

He wasn't preparing correctly two seasons ago and in that same quote he told everyone that he is now looking at film of the defense he sees in practice all the time and the film of future opponents.

Does that apparent change in preparation detract from the point?

 

[919cane]

This thread is catnip to fincane

 

[Caniac16]

This is simple. At this point Richt should know which QB between Rosier and Shireffs he'd choose as the starter. The only unknown Remaining is if Perry, who is clearly the most talented, is ready to start. Therefore the battle should be narrowed to Perry and Shireffs (or Perry).

This isn't complicated in any way. Perry gives us the best chance to win big. If he's not ready it comes down to one of the other two

Thank you so much for clearing it up that it will come down to one of three QBs on the roster lol

If Richt eliminates Rosier and then Sherrifs goes out and breaks his leg in practice is Perry the clear cut starter? **** no. There's no reason to eliminate someone at this stage unless there is clear separation

 

[brock]

Wouldn't make a decision until top 3 QBs scrimmaged against the 1st team defense.

They did that on Saturday

Perry got more work vs the #1 defense it seems though so of course his numbers wouldn't be as good

 

[brock]

Why are people making the assumption that rosier has been better than perry through all of the practices? Was he better than him at the scrimmage yes. But at the practices before that? No one other than a few on the board I'm sure knows. To this point rosier has been the most erratic/turnover qb in camp other than his solid scrimmage.That sh*t loses you games and based on what richt teaches irks the **** out of him

 

[BeastMode]

Rosier and Shirreffs out-performed Perry, by any measure, and out-performed him significantly. You're going to narrow it down to two positions, then it has to be those two guys.

They've had ten practices. Scrimmages are important but not the whole story.

Time to put the quarterback in there that gives us the best chance of winning this fūcking year.

The QB who gives us the best chance of winning Week 1 against Bethune Cookman may not be the same QB that gives us the best chance of winning the ACC in October and November.

I believe we will see a two QB system the first few games of the year.

 

[fincane]

Why are people making the assumption that rosier has been better than perry through all of the practices? Was he better than him at the scrimmage yes. But at the practices before that? No one other than a few on the board I'm sure knows. To this point rosier has been the most erratic/turnover qb in camp other than his solid scrimmage.That sh*t loses you games and based on what richt teaches him irks the **** out of him

Are you making the assumption that he hasn't? Has one person "who knows" said that Perry has been better in practice? The three you're counting on would love to come here and tell you that he has. You can assume that Perry hasn't been better until one of them does. We know Perry has had issues handling snaps and read option gives. He's put quite a few on the ground. That can lose you games too.

 

[brock]

Why are people making the assumption that rosier has been better than perry through all of the practices? Was he better than him at the scrimmage yes. But at the practices before that? No one other than a few on the board I'm sure knows. To this point rosier has been the most erratic/turnover qb in camp other than his solid scrimmage.That sh*t loses you games and based on what richt teaches him irks the **** out of him

Are you making the assumption that he hasn't? Has one person "who knows" said that Perry has been better in practice? The three you're counting on would love to come here and tell you that he has. You can assume that Perry hasn't been until one of them does. They aren't shy about praising Perry when they can. We know Perry has had issues handling snaps and read option gives. He's put quite a few on the ground. That can lose you games too.

A 4 year qb having the most turnovers in practice at the positions out of the qbs truly competing for the position doesn't concern you?

 

[jed2410]

Richt said the younger guys can make bigger leaps in improvement than the older guys.....He never said that those leaps would put them ahead of the older guys. Lets not twist those words and use them as ammo for why Perry should get those reps if he hasn't earned them

 

[Caniac16]

Why are people making the assumption that rosier has been better than perry through all of the practices? Was he better than him at the scrimmage yes. But at the practices before that? No one other than a few on the board I'm sure knows. To this point rosier has been the most erratic/turnover qb in camp other than his solid scrimmage.That sh*t loses you games and based on what richt teaches him irks the **** out of him

Are you making the assumption that he hasn't? Has one person "who knows" said that Perry has been better in practice? The three you're counting on would love to come here and tell you that he has. You can assume that Perry hasn't been until one of them does. They aren't shy about praising Perry when they can. We know Perry has had issues handling snaps and read option gives. He's put quite a few on the ground. That can lose you games too.

A 4 year qb having the most turnovers in practice at the positions out of the qbs truly competing for the position doesn't concern you?

He also had the most touchdowns in the scrimmage.

Brock, you're missing the point. Nobody here is anointing Rosier the starter. We are just saying eliminating him from the competition coming off an excellent scrimmage, and a poor scrimmage for Perry, seems pretty effin moronic. Even DMoney has renegged on that stance by saying cutting it to 3 is fine.

 

[Salt]

If that's the case I'd make Shirreffs and Perry my top two, Rosier has had plenty of time to get better and he hasn't. Gotta find a #1 soon.

as soon as I read that Rosier never bothered to watch film before Richt got here was enough to know he is not the qb you want managing your offense. I doubt the prior coaches were locking the film room so Rosier couldn't get in.

He didn't say that. Rosier said he didn't watch film before he had to start against Duke in 2015. It is still a horrendous quote but you are changing the quote.

I was not attempting to quote or else I would have used these " " but still doesn't detract from my point.

He wasn't preparing correctly two seasons ago and in that same quote he told everyone that he is now looking at film of the defense he sees in practice all the time and the film of future opponents.

Does that apparent change in preparation detract from the point?

No. I find it problematic that he didn't want to get better at his craft and was resigned to his spot on the depth chart until forced by necessity to study film. He never thought one day he might be starter, or was he expecting to just be handed the position based on seniority?