Some thoughts on the Louisville loss

[Gables Cane]

How come other teams seem to come to the table with new innovative ways to attack us based on film and our offense just seems to rely on what worked in the past? No adjustments at times. We sprinkle in a few plays here and there that we're set up weeks prior and/or a new wrinkle here in there. But we love our base offense.

I have the same concern.

My point was simply that players seeing something that they never watched on film doesn’t equate to not being prepared. It’s not knowing what to do in that situation, and the inability or unwillingness to make adjustments during the game and between games that serves as a blatant indictment on the coaching staff.

 

[3rd-43]

Has nothing to do with us fans unfortunately. Im not feeling overly positive. Essentially, the team leaders need to supersede the coaching constraints to overcome both opponents, every week.

 

[mirasuegui]

I posted about this already, but I’m gonna say it. Our offense appears to be completely designed to mask a glaring deficiency. Our inability to effectively stretch the field vertically either because we don’t have the guys that can do it or the guy that can get it to them.
I watched Arizona State and that dude Tyson, I watch Bama with Williams, I saw several other teams with tall fast physical wide receivers that would come here and start day one with barely any practice.
It amazes me that for years I see these players all over the country and we can only manage tri county dudes that are under 5’11 and don’t even make the NFL. And to make it even more ridiculous, we can’t even get them from the portal.
How tf does Louisville find and develop a dude like Bell while we can’t recruit an equivalent or even get something close from the portal?
It’s so confusing and frustrating.

Bell had 90% of his yards, after contact, he wasn't exactly stretching the field, but when you missed 5 tackles on him.

The most disappointing part of this UL loss is that there is still evidence of rot/disease that has plagued this program for a decade that Mario has still not eradicated. This D$ soliloquy could have been written after any of the losses to UL/UVA/GT/UNC/NC ST. That we’ve taken over the years across multiple regimes. All issues noted- QBs tossing picks, scheme issues (now in year 4, it’s the run scheme-), penalties, coming out flat after a bye, not getting enough out of talented young players, playing down to competition and a “poor atmosphere” at the Rock have all been cited ad nauseum around here for the last decade.

Penalties have been a problem at UM dating back to Al Golden. Richt never fixed it, manny never fixed it and neither has Mario. Guys like James Williams and Jacolby George were villainized around here just for two pillars of this team, Francis and Toney to pick up 15 yard drive killers early in this game. Mario’s OL, the only contribution he brings to the on field product, can’t even get the ball lined up and snapped on crucial third & shorts without an operation penalty. We have 0 evidence to suggest Mario will ever get this rectified as even going back to Oregon, his teams were amongst the most penalized in the country.

The only thing about this program that has changed in the last 10 years is that we spend more money now and we do have more talent. However, we still underachieve in every other area. Tick tock, Mario.

The problem is, who do you replace Mario with you look around college football, and 99% of the college's coaches all have issues. NIL has even the playing field, and good coaches are hard to find. It's hard to believe, that with unlimited recruiting budgets, the best players on P 4 groups, are kids from lower division schools,

 

[mirasuegui]

It’s most certainly overrated. It’s a good unit but not elite as it was billed. If Mario and the budget can’t roll out an elite OL in year 4, then what advantage do they offer? This was supposed to be our biggest strength.

When I saw our O.L. line up against the Cards D.L., I figure we blow them off the ball, **** most of their D.L.'s barely came up to our chest. Number 50 their best D lineman is a transfer from some small college. We look like Tarzans, but hit like Jane.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

 

[Alex_Dynamix]

last year golesh exposed our defense and we were in shoot outs all year.

this year, a combo of norvell and brohm exposed our defense, but we dont have the offense to be in shoot outs.

21-24 isn’t exactly a shootout

 

[MikeyCanez]

I agree overall. I thought we were an 8-4 team before the season with losses to ND and UF. After we started 5-0, yeah, I’d say we have the talent to go 11-0. Of course there’s flaws but we went undefeated through what I considered to be the toughest part of the schedule.

We might be underrating Louisville. Not trying to make excuses for the coaching staff or the players, because we were plenty talented enough to win that game, but Louisville might end up 11-1 or 10-2 as well.

 

[mirasuegui]

Stanford is Wake '24. 20+ point *** whooping but it doesn't matter when it comes to SMU/Pitt and whoever else figures out how to sneak a close one in (NCSU)

agree with you, except Mario will pack it in, when we get up by 10 points .

 

[mirasuegui]

When you have players such as Zech Poyser mentioning how they weren't prepared for what Louisville threw at them, that's a serious problem.

because most teams take the two weeks to self-scout, and see what works and what doesn't . Bottom line if we tackle, we control them on offense. Nothing really exotic about that.

 

[simplycanes]

Not sure I agree.

There are some things you might see during a game that you did not prepare for during the week because it never showed up during film review. That’s not shocking or disturbing or uncommon. That’s the reality of football. Do you think we anticipated and practiced against a 3 QB set? Unlikely.

The real issue is how the coaches and players react to a formation or play they have not seen on film or from the practice squad. That’s an indication on how well they are coached.

After the first 2 drives, the defense played better. We did not shut them down (nobody what some on here believe), but we played better.

The spot light should be on the offense, not the defense. The offense, and more specifically the running game, significantly underperformed and it wasn’t because some defensive savant coordinator gave them exotic looks. Mario, Dawson, and Mirabel need to be held accountability for that performance.

If we weren't prepared for crossing routes, cut blocks and fast throws to Bell, it was in fact, a very serious problem. If you weren't prepared for draw plays against the overloaded NASCAR package, it is an even bigger problem. It was only a matter of time until someone played us that way, and you'd have to be a total loser to not bet the house on it being Brohm.

 

[Ironmanfootball]

How does the entire defense not know lville only needed 2 yards for a first down on the fake. Like mindboggling stupidity. Also we’re done w the penalties. This team is low iq and undisciplined. The ol is the least disciplined unit on the team and that’s supposed to be Mario’s bread and butter

Crazy chit to see both teams celebrate on the same play when it was clearly a 1st down. 8 for Miami is a dum dum

 

[NJshoreCane]

because most teams take the two weeks to self-scout, and see what works and what doesn't . Bottom line if we tackle, we control them on offense. Nothing really exotic about that.

It's that simple.
This is the first game we've failed to get people to the ground, so it doesn't concern me... yet.
I can't put this game on the D.
UL had 140 yards in the second half, 10 points in 3 1/2 quarters.

Got to score more than 21 points on O, six of which were gifted by the D.

 

[JohnnyYoung]

There was one play in which there were like 20 linemen (being sarcastic) and Bell lined up at Guard and he pulled in the running play. When he got to the point of impact as a blocker he was soft as the marshmallow man and the defender made the tackle for after a 2 yard gain. I was expecting Bell to use his 6’9 fans 300+ pounds frame to good use. Nope!!! Soft!

Unlike Cooper on the long tunnel screen pass to Toney when he got out and laid someone out Which sparked the long run after catch by Toney.

I know simplistic in description here but dying to see Cooper and Samson pull and clobber people a few times a game, incorporating such designs would benefit Lyle in my opinion.

Is that so much to ask?

 

[dorsey1]

Worst OL performance in awhile-Pass pro was fine-run blocking they got manhandled-

Everyone and their mother knew on that first drive that they were faking that field goal-

It’s a Brohm coached team he’s pulling out all his bag of tricks-Mario and our defense were clueless.

Beat Stanford it’s a one game playoff every week.

 

[mirasuegui]

One thing I'd really like to know - why, pretty much since Miami joined the ACC, does it almost always come out flat for ACC games against anyone other than FSU and occasionally VT? Doesn't matter who the coach is, whether it's Mario, Manny, Richt, Golden, Shannon or Coker. It's the same old ****, other team is sky high and desperate to kick our ***, we're often flat. I don't get it.

Because our coaches come out, an instead of letting our Athletes ball, we start with this conservative approach which goes hand in hand with what our opponents are trying to do, kill the clock. Then our lack of discipline and bonehead plays come into the formula, and puff, late in the game, we are down or barely holding own, and the panic. kicks in. When was the last time you remember us, really stomping on an opponent.

 

[Gables Cane]

If we weren't prepared for crossing routes, cut blocks and fast throws to Bell, it was in fact, a very serious problem. If you weren't prepared for draw plays against the overloaded NASCAR package, it is an even bigger problem. It was only a matter of time until someone played us that way, and you'd have to be a total loser to not bet the house on it being Brohm.

I agree. Everyone knew Brohm would use short drops and quick passing game to neutralize our pass rush. Countless podcasts discussed the use of a "chipper" to slow down Bain. Everyon on this board knows Brohm is a master at utlizing the middle of the field with crossing routes and TEs.

I'm positive Heatherman knew it was coming becasue all of those concepts are on film from prior games. I don't think he was expecting 3 QBs or some other odd formations. And, that's where the coaches need to adjust in real time and put players in a position to win.

 

[mirasuegui]

I was frustrated watching the game. Then I listened to Brohm and read a transcript of some things he said. That made me angry. He changed scheme, play calls and developed new plays using the three QBs. They called that play "three amigos". He said the intent was to make the defense have to think rather than react to what they expected to see...... Wow, imagine that....

when your main concern, is to avoid a TFL, in lieu of aggressively attacking the running game, you are conservative by nature. Only problem with this thinking, you have to be a discipline team, that doesn't hold, or commit procedure penalties etc.

 

[mirasuegui]

Beck decisions 95%… checkdown/open was always there
Penalties 5%

don't forget 28 missed tackles

 

[PIPO]

don't forget 28 missed tackles

That had me shocked.

This defensive has been awesome tackling. It was a flashback to last year in that Louisville game, especially the Bell TDs.

 

[mirasuegui]

That had me shocked.

This defensive has been awesome tackling. It was a flashback to last year in that Louisville game, especially the Bell TDs.

I think Louisville saw the 4th quarter of the FSU game, and saw all the missed tackles, and figure lets see if these boys can tackle in space. Our DC stresses multiple hats to the ball, Brohm said lets isolate these boys in space. Brown and Bells yards, 90% came after the defender wiff, can't tackle can't be a great defense. FSU, just handed everyone the blueprint.