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Mr. Dynasty1 said:
“Three players are still dragging on the offense. Lofton has regressed as a blocker and still looks lumbering in the passing game, while also making mental mistakes. Jordan Lyle is bouncing around and struggling to fit the run scheme. Jojo Trader only played one play.“

FOH, Three guys we don’t even featured and haven’t for weeks. Yet the offense still drags and sleepwalks thru multiple quarters. They are insignificant to this offense
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They r insignificant bc Dawson and Mario don’t understand how to use their weapons and put guys in position to succeed. Unless it’s Toney or Daniels nobody else gets things schemed up for them.
 
DMoney said:
A lot of the focus will be on the running game. I don’t expect a wholesale philosophy change after years of success, but I do think you’ll see more outside runs going forward. We’re only averaging 80 yards over the past two games. That’s unacceptable, even if teams are scheming to take away the run.

But I thought the biggest issue with the running game was the penalties. Our whole philosophy is based on controlling down and distance, and we were always behind the sticks because of unforced errors. We only had 18 total rushing attempts in a close low-scoring game. Louisville controlled the pace with their quick passing, and they ran better than they have all season. It felt like every time Heatherman went to a different pressure look, Brohm called an Isaac Brown run right into the soft spot of the front.

Miami's offensive line played their worst game of the season. While pass blocking was mostly fine, Matt McCoy got beat clean on a crucial fourth down and caused Beck’s third INT. With good protection, Beck finds Elija Lofton wide open in the flat.
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Okay, so you just have zero clue what a competent run game looks like then. Just impossible for you to think the Run Scheme isn't the #1 most glaring issue of the entire team for the remainder of this season. We are at defcon 1 with this run scheme. You keep making excuses for it. You keep failing to say that the run scheme/bs identity is what's making the rest of the offensive issues worse. LITERALLY I said this to you pre-season that this run scheme eliminates explosive runs and makes it so any penalty is crippling and drive-killling. Now we've seen it for like three different 4th quarters/second halves and the entirety of this louisville game.

THIS RUN SCHEME IS ******* GARBAGE, and if we lose another game it'll be the fault AGAIN.
 
DMoney said:
I'm not demoralized, but I'm anxious.

All of us would've signed up for 5-1 and sweeping our rivals. This is modern college football. I didn't have Louisville as the loss - their OL looked miserable on tape - but maybe we should've seen it coming. Marion's Oregon teams routinely dropped these games, and this was his fifth loss as a double-digit favorite (tying him with Kalen DeBoer and Hugh Freeze). Either way, we enter the second half of the season as a Top 10 team.

The reason I'm anxious is the calendar. This is the stretch where we always collapse. Another loss would be devastating. We thought for a minute it might be easy, and now we're back to sniffing glue.

Our culture is about to get a stress test. Miami will be favorites in every game. The team is relatively healthy. If they stay on point and together, this will be a very successful season. But they need to deal with adversity for the first time in a while.

The first three drives set the tone for this game. We didn't do a good job of handling the bye/game/bye stretch, and it showed early. We couldn’t tackle, the team looked flat, and there was no juice in the building. On Louisville's first play, their RT and Jaleel Skinner execute a textbook double-team on Rueben Bain to pop Isaac Brown. Brohm calls a beautiful drive from there and Louisville scores a short TD.

We get the ball, Francis Mauigoa commits an 15-yard unsportsmanlike, and the drive is dead on arrival. We didn't run once because of down and distance. Three and out.

Louisville gets the ball at the Miami 46 after a good return. Brohm calls three papercuts for a first down, and then Chris Bell takes a crosser through the heart of our defense for six.

From that point, Louisville controlled the game. Brohm is the real deal and his team played hard. Miller Moss, who can be erratic, was decisive with a quick passing game that neutralized our pass rush (2.32 seconds before pass). I underrated Louisville's defense- they have good athletes who made some incredible plays to capitalize on our mistakes. They deserved to win.

There were lot of reasons for the loss, but two stand out as obvious. We can't win with four interceptions. It took me back to 2023 because there wasn't even pressure. Just teams playing pass and reading our QB. We spent a lot time this off-season discussing Cam's failure to checkdown to Arroyo against GT, but Carson Beck made a similar mistake with Alex Bauman on the first INT. Beck needs to take the easy money when it's there. That's his game.

Beck's response will be the story of the season. The media is waiting for him to fold and lose the locker room, as evidenced by Danny Kannell's tweet. We all have have TVD PTSD as Miami fans. I think Beck is a different player, with more winning experience and a tighter relationship with his team. But he'll need to prove it.

The other story is the nine penalties. We’re 130th in penalties per game after finishing 98th last year. It’s a consistent problem that causes us to play below our talent level.

A lot of the focus will be on the running game. I don’t expect a wholesale philosophy change after years of success, but I do think you’ll see more outside runs going forward. We’re only averaging 80 yards over the past two games. That’s unacceptable, even if teams are scheming to take away the run.

But I thought the biggest issue with the running game was the penalties. Our whole philosophy is based on controlling down and distance, and we were always behind the sticks because of unforced errors. We only had 18 total rushing attempts in a close low-scoring game. Louisville controlled the pace with their quick passing, and they ran better than they have all season. It felt like every time Heatherman went to a different pressure look, Brohm called an Isaac Brown run right into the soft spot of the front.

Miami's offensive line played their worst game of the season. While pass blocking was mostly fine, Matt McCoy got beat clean on a crucial fourth down and caused Beck’s third INT. With good protection, Beck finds Elija Lofton wide open in the flat.

Three players are still dragging on the offense. Lofton has regressed as a blocker and still looks lumbering in the passing game, while also making mental mistakes. Jordan Lyle is bouncing around and struggling to fit the run scheme. Jojo Trader only played one play.

There’s reason the staff is force-feeding Lyle/Lofton and pushing JoJo- they’ve seen their impact ability in practice. But for a variety of reasons, it’s not translating to production. The good news is it’s a long season. But it’s not forever, and we need to see signs of life soon.

Malachi Toney has been consistently performing like one of the best playmakers in America. His physicality is the revelation to me- he's stiff-arming and running over older players like nothing. Him and CJ Daniels are a playoff-caliber duo, but they need help.



The other star receiver on the field was Bell. I called him the best draft-eligible receiver earlier in the week, and that might’ve been selling him short. He’s playing like the next best receiver in America after Jeremiah Smith. Unreal horsepower.

From a playcalling standpoint, two things stuck out to my untrained eyes- we should have played with more urgency and tempo down in the 4th, and we got too screen-happy in the 3rd. Even in a bad game, we need to trust our veteran QB to make decisions with good pass protection.

Random personnel note- we played both Booker Pickett and Herbert Scroggins with Akheem Mesidor banged up. I wonder if we see them (and Marquise Lightfoot) more against Stanford.

I saved this one for last, because it’s not an excuse. But the atmosphere was terrible to start the game. Some of it was traffic and people getting off work. That’s not a fan issue. But the student section was half full and taking selfies. Let’s be better.

The good news is that we don’t have to wait through another bye. We will see how this team responds right away. Go Canes.
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The atmosphere?!?!

Should’ve of left it out of your post completely. Friday night when all the traffic is headed north. No to mention the team came out flat.

This is all on Mario and the team how they came off a bye week flat. Not the fans.

Tired of people taking shot at the fans. We aren’t the ones coming up with the ****** offensive scheme and missing tackles.

I was there early as were many others and there was no getting up for a first drive TD, a 3 and out and then another drive for a TD with no juice by the team.

Lastly, your comment about the run game not changing much - well, that’s part of the ******* problem. Mario and Shannon are just going to bang their heads vs a wall as it’s their way or none at all vs being like a Brohm, whom changes and schemes better concepts. Ridiculous!!!
 
Hoyacane1620 said:
I sincerely hope that Dawson spends the weekend working on a game plan to beat Stanfords defensive tendencies. Brohm spent two weeks on the plan for Friday’s game. Looked like Dawson spent 2 minutes…. They came into that game assuming they were going to push both LVille’s lines around and had no answer when it didn’t happen.

Use the skill talent on the bench. It’s getting tiresome listening to all the talk about “trust”. What’s trust? Blocking? Guys getting the snaps aren’t doing that well anymore. Let’s see Moore and some of the other backups. Every team going forward will key in Toney and Daniels.

And for god’s sake stop running Lyle into the middle of the line.
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This, this, this.
We can't come up with something simple with the speed that's sitting on the bench? It makes zero sense.
**** put both Fletcher and Lyle in the game together to see how it works.
 
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PalyCane said:
Few head coaches have done less with more over their career.

Mario can build teams that are more talented than most opponents. His track record indicates his teams underperform relative to the talent he amasses.

I wish I could believe this will change, but I can't.
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You people sound like Louisville was a bunch of scrums. They have bunch of athletes, too. Their big-*** WR clowned our supposed best CB & motored thru the secondary. Yeah, can argue deserved to lose & out-schemed/coached, but every team going forward will bring its best & want a piece of Miami. This isn’t fantasy football.
 
There is quite literally nothing to suggest that we will run outside more, or make any of the requisite changes.

This is the team. What you see is what you get.

We will continue to be penalized.

We will continue to run up the middle and be tackled by unblocked defenders running in from the sides.

We will continue to ignore the tight ends.

We will continue to rush 3 and drop 8 in the red zone.

We will continue blitzing the linebackers even tho they never have once gotten home.

This is the team.
 
In this NIL era every year you need to mainatin players you want who you feel are going to be good that give you the best chance to win

Right now, I think Josh Moore needs to play over Marion ( unless those gimmick plays ) and the Cinn transfer, neither of who are more than 1 year players here.
 
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StoneWallLoungeCane said:
A lot of cope in here about penalties and Beck. The biggest problem is that we have zero running game because Wario wants to prove how “tough” his team is, so he’s constantly asking them to run that stupid dive play when it clearly doesn’t work. He did this against ND in the second half and almost blew the game, did it against FSU and almost blew the game (has the lowest point differential in a W against FSU this year), and then did it against Louisville. This is who he is. Fake tough guy nonsense. It would take a personality transplant for Miami to be good. Miami’s losing 2-3 more games at a minimum.
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Duo run concepts from 1991 or die!!!
 
DMoney said:
I'm not demoralized, but I'm anxious.

All of us would've signed up for 5-1 and sweeping our rivals. This is modern college football. I didn't have Louisville as the loss - their OL looked miserable on tape - but maybe we should've seen it coming. Marion's Oregon teams routinely dropped these games, and this was his fifth loss as a double-digit favorite (tying him with Kalen DeBoer and Hugh Freeze). Either way, we enter the second half of the season as a Top 10 team.

The reason I'm anxious is the calendar. This is the stretch where we always collapse. Another loss would be devastating. We thought for a minute it might be easy, and now we're back to sniffing glue.

Our culture is about to get a stress test. Miami will be favorites in every game. The team is relatively healthy. If they stay on point and together, this will be a very successful season. But they need to deal with adversity for the first time in a while.

The first three drives set the tone for this game. We didn't do a good job of handling the bye/game/bye stretch, and it showed early. We couldn’t tackle, the team looked flat, and there was no juice in the building. On Louisville's first play, their RT and Jaleel Skinner execute a textbook double-team on Rueben Bain to pop Isaac Brown. Brohm calls a beautiful drive from there and Louisville scores a short TD.

We get the ball, Francis Mauigoa commits an 15-yard unsportsmanlike, and the drive is dead on arrival. We didn't run once because of down and distance. Three and out.

Louisville gets the ball at the Miami 46 after a good return. Brohm calls three papercuts for a first down, and then Chris Bell takes a crosser through the heart of our defense for six.

From that point, Louisville controlled the game. Brohm is the real deal and his team played hard. Miller Moss, who can be erratic, was decisive with a quick passing game that neutralized our pass rush (2.32 seconds before pass). I underrated Louisville's defense- they have good athletes who made some incredible plays to capitalize on our mistakes. They deserved to win.

There were lot of reasons for the loss, but two stand out as obvious. We can't win with four interceptions. It took me back to 2023 because there wasn't even pressure. Just teams playing pass and reading our QB. We spent a lot time this off-season discussing Cam's failure to checkdown to Arroyo against GT, but Carson Beck made a similar mistake with Alex Bauman on the first INT. Beck needs to take the easy money when it's there. That's his game.

Beck's response will be the story of the season. The media is waiting for him to fold and lose the locker room, as evidenced by Danny Kannell's tweet. We all have have TVD PTSD as Miami fans. I think Beck is a different player, with more winning experience and a tighter relationship with his team. But he'll need to prove it.

The other story is the nine penalties. We’re 130th in penalties per game after finishing 98th last year. It’s a consistent problem that causes us to play below our talent level.

A lot of the focus will be on the running game. I don’t expect a wholesale philosophy change after years of success, but I do think you’ll see more outside runs going forward. We’re only averaging 80 yards over the past two games. That’s unacceptable, even if teams are scheming to take away the run.

But I thought the biggest issue with the running game was the penalties. Our whole philosophy is based on controlling down and distance, and we were always behind the sticks because of unforced errors. We only had 18 total rushing attempts in a close low-scoring game. Louisville controlled the pace with their quick passing, and they ran better than they have all season. It felt like every time Heatherman went to a different pressure look, Brohm called an Isaac Brown run right into the soft spot of the front.

Miami's offensive line played their worst game of the season. While pass blocking was mostly fine, Matt McCoy got beat clean on a crucial fourth down and caused Beck’s third INT. With good protection, Beck finds Elija Lofton wide open in the flat.

Three players are still dragging on the offense. Lofton has regressed as a blocker and still looks lumbering in the passing game, while also making mental mistakes. Jordan Lyle is bouncing around and struggling to fit the run scheme. Jojo Trader only played one play.

There’s reason the staff is force-feeding Lyle/Lofton and pushing JoJo- they’ve seen their impact ability in practice. But for a variety of reasons, it’s not translating to production. The good news is it’s a long season. But it’s not forever, and we need to see signs of life soon.

Malachi Toney has been consistently performing like one of the best playmakers in America. His physicality is the revelation to me- he's stiff-arming and running over older players like nothing. Him and CJ Daniels are a playoff-caliber duo, but they need help.



The other star receiver on the field was Bell. I called him the best draft-eligible receiver earlier in the week, and that might’ve been selling him short. He’s playing like the next best receiver in America after Jeremiah Smith. Unreal horsepower.

From a playcalling standpoint, two things stuck out to my untrained eyes- we should have played with more urgency and tempo down in the 4th, and we got too screen-happy in the 3rd. Even in a bad game, we need to trust our veteran QB to make decisions with good pass protection.

Random personnel note- we played both Booker Pickett and Herbert Scroggins with Akheem Mesidor banged up. I wonder if we see them (and Marquise Lightfoot) more against Stanford.

I saved this one for last, because it’s not an excuse. But the atmosphere was terrible to start the game. Some of it was traffic and people getting off work. That’s not a fan issue. But the student section was half full and taking selfies. Let’s be better.

The good news is that we don’t have to wait through another bye. We will see how this team responds right away. Go Canes.
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"but I do think you’ll see more outside runs going forward"

What exactly makes you say that @DMoney ??

Is this something you heard first hand from the staff?

We are running it exactly the way his best friend and current OL coach wants to run it.
I don't see any actual evidence that they will do anything in the running game but exactly what they have been doing since they have been here.
 
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