Some thoughts on the Louisville loss

[pacusmc]

Is the offense limited because Mario has been unable to recruit these WR types or has Mario been unable to recruit these WR types because of the offense?

One reason is the QB position. Cam Ward was great, and the 1st pick in the draft, but signed late for one a season and had no recruiting impact. Beck also signed late.

Miami's QB room was Emory Williams and WHO? when those WRs were making school decisions.

Next year is the same. Beck is leaving and the QB room is Emory, Judd, Nickel, and an incoming FR.

And zachria branch went to play for Stockton who had showed what in tape?
Get the dammm players or watch them beat you.
Deuce Robinson left usc to go play with a dude that is shorter than his unborn kids.
And he almost beat us all by himself While we were throwing screens and running into a wall all game.

 

[Gables Canes]

This OL smells very fraudulent. They got beat many times against a supposed weak DL. Not to mention how undisciplined they are

It’s most certainly overrated. It’s a good unit but not elite as it was billed. If Mario and the budget can’t roll out an elite OL in year 4, then what advantage do they offer? This was supposed to be our biggest strength.

 

[SSCane]

Love your optimism D$. God bless you.
Wish I saw things similar to you and was just anxious.
What I saw on Friday was a mediocre ACC team in Louisville, that is a significantly better team than Miami and much better coached. They would beat this Miami team 9 out of 10 times they played IMO.

This was not a fluke loss. Louisville beat Miami thoroughly and convincingly. Fortunate they didn’t get blown out and embarrassed further. If not for Louisville conservative play calling and poor refereeing, this could have gotten ugly.
They exposed this Hurricanes team for what they are and have been all season. They are an over rated, undisciplined, unfocused, and uncreative football team that will come out unmotivated several times a year. Louisville demonstrated all you need to do is stack the box, pressure Beck and they will self destruct with penalties and turnovers. Mario and Dawson have no answers on offense. ****, Mario can’t even get the penalties under control after being here for 4 years.

Louisville has one of the worst lines in college football and a barely serviceable QB and they could move the ball on Miami with ease. Just double team Bain and run right at him, or just run away from him. Our linebackers can’t fill gaps and back field can’t tackle.
The rest of the teams left on our schedule are going to use the same formula and it’s going to cost Miami at least two more loses out of SMU, NCSt and Pitt. That I am sure of.
Mario and Dawson have shown they are so stubborn and lack creativity they will not make any meaningful adjustments in game or between weeks. They will go right back to running into a wall over and over on 1st and 2nd down.

Lastly, you’re just grasping at straws if you think Lyle, Lofton and Jo Jo are somehow going to put on Superman capes and come and save the season. They have done NOTHING since they have been here. If they were difference makers you would have seen it already. It doesn’t take 3 or 4 years for those positions to make an impact. They are JAGs that have been hyped by this fanbase to no end.
I think Lyle and Lofton should play less, not more. Lyle has no vision or feel for the position and can’t pick up the tough yards, he’s the third best back on this team. Lofton can’t block and hasn’t done anything in the passing game. Have not been impressed with his performance at all and would rather seen other TEs play.
I seriously doubt Jo Jo ever plays any meaningful snaps here at this point.

Bottom line, this team is just like every other Miami team over the last 25 years. A middle of the pack ACC team, with a few difference makers and a bunch of JAGs. We were just fortunate we played a lousy UF and FSU team and a ND team at the beginning of the year breaking in a new QB.
It was all a mirage because UF and FSU are so bad.

 

[3FW]

“Three players are still dragging on the offense. Lofton has regressed as a blocker and still looks lumbering in the passing game, while also making mental mistakes. Jordan Lyle is bouncing around and struggling to fit the run scheme. Jojo Trader only played one play.“

FOH, Three guys we don’t even featured and haven’t for weeks. Yet the offense still drags and sleepwalks thru multiple quarters. They are insignificant to this offense

And that’s why the offense is very Mediocre.

 

[Empirical Cane]

Love your optimism D$. God bless you.
Wish I saw things similar to you and was just anxious.
What I saw on Friday was a mediocre ACC team in Louisville, that is a significantly better team than Miami and much better coached. They would beat this Miami team 9 out of 10 times they played IMO.

This was not a fluke loss. Louisville beat Miami thoroughly and convincingly. Fortunate they didn’t get blown out and embarrassed further. If not for Louisville conservative play calling and poor refereeing, this could have gotten ugly.
They exposed this Hurricanes team for what they are and have been all season. They are an over rated, undisciplined, unfocused, and uncreative football team that will come out unmotivated several times a year. Louisville demonstrated all you need to do is stack the box, pressure Beck and they will self destruct with penalties and turnovers. Mario and Dawson have no answers on offense. ****, Mario can’t even get the penalties under control after being here for 4 years.

Louisville has one of the worst lines in college football and a barely serviceable QB and they could move the ball on Miami with ease. Just double team Bain and run right at him, or just run away from him. Our linebackers can’t fill gaps and back field can’t tackle.
The rest of the teams left on our schedule are going to use the same formula and it’s going to cost Miami at least two more loses out of SMU, NCSt and Pitt. That I am sure of.
Mario and Dawson have shown they are so stubborn and lack creativity they will not make any meaningful adjustments in game or between weeks. They will go right back to running into a wall over and over on 1st and 2nd down.

Lastly, you’re just grasping at straws if you think Lyle, Lofton and Jo Jo are somehow going to put on Superman capes and come and save the season. They have done NOTHING since they have been here. If they were difference makers you would have seen it already. It doesn’t take 3 or 4 years for those positions to make an impact. They are JAGs that have been hyped by this fanbase to no end.
I think Lyle and Lofton should play less, not more. Lyle has no vision or feel for the position and can’t pick up the tough yards, he’s the third best back on this team. Lofton can’t block and hasn’t done anything in the passing game. Have not been impressed with his performance at all and would rather seen other TEs play.
I seriously doubt Jo Jo ever plays any meaningful snaps here at this point.

Bottom line, this team is just like every other Miami team over the last 25 years. A middle of the pack ACC team, with a few difference makers and a bunch of JAGs. We were just fortunate we played a lousy UF and FSU team and a ND team at the beginning of the year breaking in a new QB.
It was all a mirage because UF and FSU are so bad.

By mid week, the legend of Louie Louie and Brohm is gonna be an unranked, silent Natty lock.

They's probably beat Dolphins by 30.

The copium being smoked...whoa nelly!

 

[TemplarCane]

And zachria branch went to play for Stockton who had showed what in tape?
Get the dammm players or watch them beat you.
Deuce Robinson left usc to go play with a dude that is shorter than his unborn kids.
And he almost beat us all by himself While we were throwing screens.

Branch visited Miami and ended up choosing UGA for a bigger bag and perhaps UGA's track record as a CFP team. My presumptions, to be fair. He's also one of the 5-10 guys you mentioned. Miami has Malachi.

Robinson I have no answer. I don't recall if he considered or visited Miami or know why he chose to FSU. Not everyone makes good choices.

Bottom line is Miami has been unsuccessful signing elite WRs for many reasons. I believe one reason is the QB room has been a major question mark on ESD and the first portal window.

 

[nickster]

Not a fan of this write by Dmoney. UM took the crowd noise out of the game with its lethargic play and it was 14-0 so quick. Not one mention of the horrific play calling by Dawson or the massive brain fart Mario laid right before half time. He didn't use any of his three time outs and ran the clock to zero. Yeah Mario lets regroup for the second half because we get the ball first. How did that work out? Three and out faster than you can say Mario is an imbecile when it comes to sideline coaching. Did you miss that Dmoney? No other coach in America would do that unless they play to lose. That's what Mario is and his buddy Dawson. We have way too much talent on offense to waste it like these potato heads are doing. Call a spade a spade Dmoney!

 

[YUMU]

Beck decisions 95%… checkdown/open was always there
Penalties 5%

 

[TheShredder]

Branch visited Miami and ended up choosing UGA for a bigger bag and perhaps UGA's track record as a CFP team. My presumptions, to be fair. He's also one of the 5-10 guys you mentioned. Miami has Malachi.

Robinson I have no answer. I don't recall if he considered or visited Miami or know why he chose to FSU. Not everyone makes good choices.

Bottom line is Miami has been unsuccessful signing elite WRs for many reasons. I believe one reason is the QB room has been a major question mark on ESD and the first portal window.

Deuce was an FSU legacy and they said he would be a WR, a lot of teams wanted him at TE.


Branch was a package deal with his brother.

 

[DMoney]

No, actually call out Mario, Mirabal, etc.

So it's not enough to post that exact same stat- right at the top of the post- and make clear that it's a Mario issue dating back to Oregon. I also have to "call them out," whatever that means.

This is the emotional venting I'm talking about. I'm sure it helps some people work through their frustration after a loss. But it doesn't add much.

 

[skyman]

A wholesale philosophy change in the run game? No.

But past success doesn’t guarantee future spoils. The run game needs to get revamped or it’ll be a long stretch the second half of the season.

Louisville exposed not just parts of the run game but the predictability of the play calling. That’s a very big issue.

We were already in 80s with run game, we have been showing cracks before already. In the numbers rundown thread it was mentioned but everyone ws getting a hard on from a couple tush push like runs thinking that was sustainable. Heck you still have people hyping charmar even though he avgs like under 4 yards a carry.

The run game has not been good. We are not even trying to open up holes anymore just dog pile in middle..

 

[Tinman64]

Bulldoze forward. That’s the scheme

Essentially it’s called a wedge from the double wing offense

 

[Negro-Wan Kanobi]

Real feelings here.

I have to give Cristobal a massive amount of credit. 5-6 years ago when we were closing in on 15 years of irrelevance, I thought this is what we are and will always will be. We cannot realistically compete with the OSUs and UGAs. At best we may have a coach who goes on a lucky streak and wins the ACC once or twice, but we don’t have the resources to win a national title. And then NIL happens. Boosters open up their wallets. Cristobal manages to put together parts of teams good enough to win a title. Last years offense was easily championship caliber. The defense held us back. This year the defense is at least playoff caliber, but the offense (especially OL with its penalties and the QB with his turnovers ) are kneecapping us. You had the pieces for a championship team but not in the same year.

I am filled with optimism after the last two seasons. We CAN win a title in this era of football. We can be as good as the OSUs and the UGAs. I didn’t think it was possible a few years ago. We just need a better HC to put it all together.

So out of respect and appreciation I am awarding Mario Cristobal my first ever “Buck Showalter Award.” Thank you for laying the foundation for our next HC to win a title.

OMFG FOOK!!!

 

[ssvir]

No, actually call out Mario, Mirabal, etc. like you do the players consistently and in depth, but you won't.

You stating "Mario's Oregon teams routinely dropped these games, and this was his fifth loss as a double-digit favorite", doesn't come close to calling him out for what those results truly mean.

No mention that the 5 (6), is the worse in the country during his time here. No mention that it is completely unacceptable period, let alone for someone allocated the resources he had both at OU and now UM. No mention that he is clearly a coach who does less with more and any team he leads, regardless of talent acquisition, will always be at a disadvantange against any staff who is simply better than him when it comes to Xs and Os.

This is year 4. We are unlikely heading to the ACCCG. And this when both FSU and Clemsom are dumspter fires. UNC, VILLE, SMU have already been there since Mario has arrived. It's likely GT and UVA go this year, yet we don't, again. That is pitiful.

The ROI to this point has been poor. He was not provided the resources he was, to likely not even make the ACCG after 4 years, forget mentioning even winning it.

Go be a Bama fan.

 

[bacane]

Since you don't understand football, let me break it down for you. Brohm knew he couldn't beat OJ one-on-one on the outside because it wasn't working. That's why he ran those drag routes - they're tough to stop because you're running underneath the coverage. However, they're also high-risk because a linebacker can knock you off or pick off the ball. Watch the film, and you'll see what I mean. When Brohm tried to go outside against OJ, it didn't work because Chris Bell can't beat OJ on the boundary - OJ's too technical.

Need to watch it again, but believe Bell had a reception or two along the sideline. Bell was too physical for him.

 

[Calinative]

Oh also this type of run gameplan LITERALLY has zero chance of working if you trail at all. Imagine wanting your identity to be ground and pound and then you build your entire run game so it can literally only operate with a lead. lmao.

 

[NC_Canes_11]

It’s time to re-up my yearly post on Mario’s “culture.”

You cannot sustain a culture that’s built on accountability, when you take no accountability yourself. You aren’t putting the kids in the best situations to succeed. You played 2 games in 4 weeks and did nothing to make the team better. You’re asking these kids to literally run through a brick wall and then saying we just need to execute better when they can’t do it. It’s gotta be maddening to play for a guy like that.

If you want to know about a guy who understands his position as a HC, listen to Dillingham’s rant after their loss last week. He took it all on the chin. And then his guys bounced back for him and beat TT yesterday.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

Dont mention the atmosphere because some man who wasnt even at the game gonna come in here crying. As if you said the fans were the only reason or even the main reason we lost. I posted in the game thread, before UL even scored the first TD or right after. The atmosphere was off. Has nothing to do with how many fans were there but when you been you know what it is normally like, and what it was like Friday night.

We need to bounce back Saturday. Everything is ahead of us.

I know his name is poison on this board, and some of it for good reason, but Bud Elliott does make some good points at times. One reason for some pessimism on Miami in general is exactly what D mentioned. These middle of the road ACC home games, we get zero juice from the building. No, it’s not an excuse why we lost. And it’s literally never going to get any better, we just have to deal with it. But he (and he’s not the only one by any means) has pointed out that the home crowd atmosphere critique is two-fold. People say we have no home field advantage. That’s patently false. For the big games, it’s absolutely an advantage. ND and UiF were absolutely advantageous situations.

But for these ACC games, the building is largely dead, most notably at the start. Many, many other teams in the P4 (just about all of them, to be fair) get energy from the home crowds every single time out. To be blunt, we don’t. Elliott has pointed that out as a reason that we’ve traditionally struggled in these spots. We can all roll our eyes, and part of me does. At the end of the day, it’s your job to coach and play well, whether there’s 8 or 80,000 in the building. You’re literally paid to do it these days. But to completely ignore it as a factor is disingenuous at this point. It’s beyond a trend.

I’m sure this post will get negged, and that’s fine. It’s NOT the reason we lost. And again, this is probably pointless, because we’re never going to just make the place Nebraska or Death Valley for “******” ACC teams. There’s no solution, frankly. But I do think it contributes to the performance in some way. I wish there was some way to change it, but it’s never going to happen. We just have to find ways to win in the 1-2 times a year when we do come out flat (EVERY team does it), because we’re not going to get carried by the building in these underwhelming on-paper matchups.

 

[JZCane0825]

I just find it hilariously amusing that 98% of the mouthbreathing mongoloids that comprise the CIS porster base are definitively calling the season lost 6 games in

 

[TaylorWalls]

Oh also this type of run gameplan LITERALLY has zero chance of working if you trail at all. Imagine wanting your identity to be ground and pound and then you build your entire run game so it can literally only operate with a lead. lmao.

Where do you guys get this stuff? If we wanted our identity to be ground and pound, we wouldn't be throwing for 265 yards per game. Quit acting like we're running a Wisconsin offense.