So we finally offer Treon Harris as a QB.

[Angry Ibis]

So it is better to not have offered him at all?

 

[CANE4LIFE]

Since no one around here can seem to pull their heads out of their @sses long enough to THINK clearly without foaming at the mouth to b*tch about how stupid AG and the staff is, LETS THINK ABOUT THIS.

Treon is in our backyard. We have had the opportunity to offer him at QB this WHOLE time, but didnt. So what changed????

WHO was suspended for the bowl game and has had a LOT of bad rumors floating around him most of the season?

This isnt about the staff suddenly deciding they love Treon as a QB. This is about Olsen IMO. They think he's flaking out, or maybe even likely to bail, and now we may be looking at taking a 3rd QB in this class because things have CHANGED.

We didnt just suddenly decide that Treon is a great QB, either we struck out with other options and they have an offer and he was next on the board, OR, MORE LIKELY, one of the QBs on our roster is flaking out, and they have decided to try to bring in 3.

The majority of your posts are about how everyone else has their heads up their own asses. Get it together.

It's likely that hardly anyone thinks that this is about the staff "deciding they love Treon as a QB." This is about the staff being a solid three steps behind. Whether or not it has anything to do with Olsen is irrelevant to what this looks and feels like to the local crew. If you're not going to offer someone like Treon (QB or not) it's because you feel strongly about the situation. If you feel strongly about the situation, you don't alter that stance because there is "some movement" on the roster. This is bigger than the evaluation of a QB.

How is the staff "3 steps behind"? More bullsh*t. Even you have gone off the deep end here with the endless hate and negativity. Do you really think Golden and Coley are that stupid that they didnt evaluate this kid properly? They didnt offer him til NOW, despite all the other cr@p that has gone on. WHY? Because he was not high up on their QB board, thats why. We had 2 guys committed and they CLEARLY like them better. NOW, however, something has changed. And AMAZING cooincidence, it comes just after our prized 4 star QB recruit from last year, was just suspended, and there have been tons of rumors about his attitude, work ethic, and even possibility of transfer. And LO AND BEHOLD, we offer a 3rd QB.

You really dont see this for what it is?? You seriously think this is just AG and Coley being stupid and disorganized and not having thought about offering Treon at QB until now? REALLY? I honestly dont even know what to say at this point.

 

[Tano]

So it is better to not have offered him at all?

Yes, or offer him early like everyone else on the planet that foresaw he might be better suited at DB.

 

[japancane]

Since no one around here can seem to pull their heads out of their @sses long enough to THINK clearly without foaming at the mouth to b*tch about how stupid AG and the staff is, LETS THINK ABOUT THIS.

Treon is in our backyard. We have had the opportunity to offer him at QB this WHOLE time, but didnt. So what changed????

WHO was suspended for the bowl game and has had a LOT of bad rumors floating around him most of the season?

This isnt about the staff suddenly deciding they love Treon as a QB. This is about Olsen IMO. They think he's flaking out, or maybe even likely to bail, and now we may be looking at taking a 3rd QB in this class because things have CHANGED.

We didnt just suddenly decide that Treon is a great QB, either we struck out with other options and they have an offer and he was next on the board, OR, MORE LIKELY, one of the QBs on our roster is flaking out, and they have decided to try to bring in 3.

The majority of your posts are about how everyone else has their heads up their own asses. Get it together.

It's likely that hardly anyone thinks that this is about the staff "deciding they love Treon as a QB." This is about the staff seeming like they are chasing their own tails (whether true or not). Whether or not it has anything to do with Olsen is irrelevant to what this looks and feels like to the local crew. If you're not going to offer someone like Treon (QB or not) it's because you feel strongly about the situation. If you feel strongly about the situation, you don't alter that stance because there is "some movement" on the roster. This is bigger than the evaluation of a QB.

here's the problem. Golden is deciding to play the game, only way too late. An offer at this point is almost an after-thought and almost offensive to Ice. We didn't think enough of you to offer until you convinced all your friends to follow you to FSU, the most recent National champs.

Yikes

 

[dk72]

Y'all are hilarious.

1) Offering him as a QB does not mean we want him as a QB. It means we offer him what he wants and need be change him later, just like FSU was gonna do.

2) It isn't just "our staff", so cut the bull****. Florida and Auburn also offered him as a QB, which to me says there have to be rumblings of his commitment to FSU.

3) This offer ain't got **** to do with Kaaya, Rosier, or Olsen until it does. Until then, no sense in poopin your panties. Tito said yall fake.

Agree. Not sure why people are making such a big deal out of this. We had particular needs that we focused on. It's quite possible the coaches reevaluated the incoming class, how many slots may still be left, and then decided there would be enough room to go ahead and offer him as what he is, a project. Everyone keeps whining about how the staff keeps taking projects, but then whined about not offering Harris. He is the poster boy of projects when it comes to being a QB, and he had previously said he didn't want to play any other position. Many players get offers later in the recruiting cycle after the staff has determined that there would be room for them.

then, clearly you don't understand how recruiting works. You had every opportunity to see his game and visit with him. You had every opportunity to offer him which may have helped bring in some other big names, yet you wait until its way too late, after the team he has committed to wins the NC and after he has recruited some studs to join him. Then you suddenly decide to play the game?

Absolutely reeks of amateur hour.

No, clearly you have no idea how it works. We determined that there may be a spare spot, so we offer someone who is without a doubt a PROJECT QB that has little likelihood of being one yet insists on it. Basically, there may be room so we decided, sure, we'll give this project a shot. He's not someone you waste a spot on early on as you are still focusing on the targets that are actually expected to fill needs.

 

[losdogcane]

Congratulations to Treon, kid defiantly played his *** of this year.

 

[Joecane]

Since no one around here can seem to pull their heads out of their @sses long enough to THINK clearly without foaming at the mouth to b*tch about how stupid AG and the staff is, LETS THINK ABOUT THIS.

Treon is in our backyard. We have had the opportunity to offer him at QB this WHOLE time, but didnt. So what changed????

WHO was suspended for the bowl game and has had a LOT of bad rumors floating around him most of the season?

This isnt about the staff suddenly deciding they love Treon as a QB. This is about Olsen IMO. They think he's flaking out, or maybe even likely to bail, and now we may be looking at taking a 3rd QB in this class because things have CHANGED.

We didnt just suddenly decide that Treon is a great QB, either we struck out with other options and they have an offer and he was next on the board, OR, MORE LIKELY, one of the QBs on our roster is flaking out, and they have decided to try to bring in 3.

The majority of your posts are about how everyone else has their heads up their own asses. Get it together.

It's likely that hardly anyone thinks that this is about the staff "deciding they love Treon as a QB." This is about the staff being a solid three steps behind. Whether or not it has anything to do with Olsen is irrelevant to what this looks and feels like to the local crew. If you're not going to offer someone like Treon (QB or not) it's because you feel strongly about the situation. If you feel strongly about the situation, you don't alter that stance because there is "some movement" on the roster. This is bigger than the evaluation of a QB.

How is the staff "3 steps behind"? More bullsh*t. Even you have gone off the deep end here with the endless hate and negativity. Do you really think Golden and Coley are that stupid that they didnt evaluate this kid properly? They didnt offer him til NOW, despite all the other cr@p that has gone on. WHY? Because he was not high up on their QB board, thats why. We had 2 guys committed and they CLEARLY like them better. NOW, however, something has changed. And AMAZING cooincidence, it comes just after our prized 4 star QB recruit from last year, was just suspended, and there have been tons of rumors about his attitude, work ethic, and even possibility of transfer. And LO AND BEHOLD, we offer a 3rd QB.

You really dont see this for what it is?? You seriously think this is just AG and Coley being stupid and disorganized and not having thought about offering Treon at QB until now? REALLY? I honestly dont even know what to say at this point.

It's like you either didn't read or didn't comprehend Lu's post.

 

[AboutTheU05]

Since no one around here can seem to pull their heads out of their @sses long enough to THINK clearly without foaming at the mouth to b*tch about how stupid AG and the staff is, LETS THINK ABOUT THIS.

Treon is in our backyard. We have had the opportunity to offer him at QB this WHOLE time, but didnt. So what changed????

WHO was suspended for the bowl game and has had a LOT of bad rumors floating around him most of the season?

This isnt about the staff suddenly deciding they love Treon as a QB. This is about Olsen IMO. They think he's flaking out, or maybe even likely to bail, and now we may be looking at taking a 3rd QB in this class because things have CHANGED.

We didnt just suddenly decide that Treon is a great QB, either we struck out with other options and they have an offer and he was next on the board, OR, MORE LIKELY, one of the QBs on our roster is flaking out, and they have decided to try to bring in 3.

LMAO, maybe you should pull your head out of your *** so you can finally clearly see the stupid, nonsensical bs you continually post.

 

[japancane]

Y'all are hilarious.

1) Offering him as a QB does not mean we want him as a QB. It means we offer him what he wants and need be change him later, just like FSU was gonna do.

2) It isn't just "our staff", so cut the bull****. Florida and Auburn also offered him as a QB, which to me says there have to be rumblings of his commitment to FSU.

3) This offer ain't got **** to do with Kaaya, Rosier, or Olsen until it does. Until then, no sense in poopin your panties. Tito said yall fake.

Agree. Not sure why people are making such a big deal out of this. We had particular needs that we focused on. It's quite possible the coaches reevaluated the incoming class, how many slots may still be left, and then decided there would be enough room to go ahead and offer him as what he is, a project. Everyone keeps whining about how the staff keeps taking projects, but then whined about not offering Harris. He is the poster boy of projects when it comes to being a QB, and he had previously said he didn't want to play any other position. Many players get offers later in the recruiting cycle after the staff has determined that there would be room for them.

then, clearly you don't understand how recruiting works. You had every opportunity to see his game and visit with him. You had every opportunity to offer him which may have helped bring in some other big names, yet you wait until its way too late, after the team he has committed to wins the NC and after he has recruited some studs to join him. Then you suddenly decide to play the game?

Absolutely reeks of amateur hour.

No, clearly you have no idea how it works. We determined that there may be a spare spot, so we offer someone who is without a doubt a PROJECT QB that has little likelihood of being one yet insists on it. Basically, there may be room so we decided, sure, we'll give this project a shot. He's not someone you waste a spot on early on as you are still focusing on the targets that are actually expected to fill needs.

lol, wow. I'm sure its completely based on a free spot we suddenly have. New around here?

 

[LuCane]

Until and if there develops a reason for concern about our other QB commits, I don't see the problem here. I have no idea what kind of discussions may have preceded the offer and what Treon might have expressed to the staff along the way.

The concern/question here for me is whether the offer signals a negative development with Olsen or Crow leaving the team. If that's the case, if Treon has stuck with his early comments about just wanting an opportunity to compete for a QB spot and if the staff has been staying on him along the way, maybe such a development allows the staff to now let Treon know that UM can offer him an opportunity to compete for a spot at QB, where numbers would not have allowed him snaps before.

I'm just not seeing a reason to criticize the staff about the offer at this point. I'd need to know more before jumping to that conclusion.

Usually with you on a lot of perspectives, but not here.

The facts are that *some* locals look at our staff a certain way - rigid and as if they play the "too good for you" angle. That's not random speculation. It's actual chatter. They had a good amount of time, even after the summer, to make a call on how they'd play this particular situation, right? They waited until after our biggest rival wins the NC and everything falls in place for them to try to sway him away? Whether it's because our roster changed or their evaluation changed, it looks off. If you play out this scenario on paper before you do it, you end up with the same "off" feel. Is whatever benefit comes of this offer (not that I think Treon will buy in and come here now) greater than the reward (showing you were willing to budge on a previously strong stance)? What more do you need?

 

[rquig22]

I am sorry but didn't Treon Harris have an offer but only as DB/WR?

 

[dk72]

This HAS to be about Olsen IMO. That, or they feel that Crow is a total washout and is never going to amount to jack, and are still nervous about Kaaya.

They didnt just suddenly "discover" Treon. This late offer smacks of something having changed, and them feeling they suddenly need a 3rd QB now. Does anyone really feel this staff is that stupid and unprepared in recruiting that they didnt consider offering Treon before now?

LMFAO. I mean this board is awesome. For years people have talked about how organized AG is, and the guy's anal retentive methodical about sh*t, Coley is a great recruiter, Treon is in our back yard, and we are very close to their team, and yet people think this was some "blunder" that we suddenly discovered and are now trying to fix?? Seriously? This is CLEARLY about some issue that has recently surfaced, and they are now racing to try to grab a 3rd QB.

I don't think it has to even be about Olsen or Crow. It's quite possible that they just decided they would have a spot available to take on a project like Harris, so why not offer him. Early on why would we offer him when we were still trying to get in a core class and he insisted on being a QB when there is little chance he can be one?

 

[CANE4LIFE]

And as for all this BS about "Playing the game", maybe that's ALL this is. Anyone considered that? That maybe they have NO desire to take him at QB, but there were grumblings within the community that we are disprespecting him, and so we threw him the offer so he can say we offered him at QB, and smooth out any bad blood, but we did so knowing FULL well that he's gone and we have zero chance. We basically gave him a token offer knowing we have zero chance, to smooth out any negative stuff going on about "the hometown team not offering him". Its either THAT, or we have developed a problem that makes them feel they NOW need to take a 3rd QB.

 

[Joecane]

And as for all this BS about "Playing the game", maybe that's ALL this is. Anyone considered that? That maybe they have NO desire to take him at QB, but there were grumblings within the community that we are disprespecting him, and so we threw him the offer so he can say we offered him at QB, and smooth out any bad blood, but we did so knowing FULL well that he's gone and we have zero chance. We basically gave him a token offer knowing we have zero chance, to smooth out any negative stuff going on about "the hometown team not offering him". Its either THAT, or we have developed a problem that makes them feel they NOW need to take a 3rd QB.

Yeah, that would be an absolutely brilliant move.

Holy ****.

 

[dk72]

Since no one around here can seem to pull their heads out of their @sses long enough to THINK clearly without foaming at the mouth to b*tch about how stupid AG and the staff is, LETS THINK ABOUT THIS.

Treon is in our backyard. We have had the opportunity to offer him at QB this WHOLE time, but didnt. So what changed????

WHO was suspended for the bowl game and has had a LOT of bad rumors floating around him most of the season?

This isnt about the staff suddenly deciding they love Treon as a QB. This is about Olsen IMO. They think he's flaking out, or maybe even likely to bail, and now we may be looking at taking a 3rd QB in this class because things have CHANGED.

We didnt just suddenly decide that Treon is a great QB, either we struck out with other options and they have an offer and he was next on the board, OR, MORE LIKELY, one of the QBs on our roster is flaking out, and they have decided to try to bring in 3.

The majority of your posts are about how everyone else has their heads up their own asses. Get it together.

It's likely that hardly anyone thinks that this is about the staff "deciding they love Treon as a QB." This is about the staff seeming like they are chasing their own tails (whether true or not). Whether or not it has anything to do with Olsen is irrelevant to what this looks and feels like to the local crew. If you're not going to offer someone like Treon (QB or not) it's because you feel strongly about the situation. If you feel strongly about the situation, you don't alter that stance because there is "some movement" on the roster. This is bigger than the evaluation of a QB.

There is no reason that they couldn't feel strongly about the situation early on in that Harris is at best a project QB who is a great athlete but says he doesn't want to play any other position, so he wasn't a fit when trying to recruit a core class that is expected to form the basis of the team later on. Now that the process is further along and our class is mostly in place, if we have a spot available, then it's fine to take a gamble on a project like Harris.

 

[CANE4LIFE]

Since no one around here can seem to pull their heads out of their @sses long enough to THINK clearly without foaming at the mouth to b*tch about how stupid AG and the staff is, LETS THINK ABOUT THIS.

Treon is in our backyard. We have had the opportunity to offer him at QB this WHOLE time, but didnt. So what changed????

WHO was suspended for the bowl game and has had a LOT of bad rumors floating around him most of the season?

This isnt about the staff suddenly deciding they love Treon as a QB. This is about Olsen IMO. They think he's flaking out, or maybe even likely to bail, and now we may be looking at taking a 3rd QB in this class because things have CHANGED.

We didnt just suddenly decide that Treon is a great QB, either we struck out with other options and they have an offer and he was next on the board, OR, MORE LIKELY, one of the QBs on our roster is flaking out, and they have decided to try to bring in 3.

LMAO, maybe you should pull your head out of your *** so you can finally clearly see the stupid, nonsensical bs you continually post.

LOL, yeah your right. I need to just get on board and assume EVERYTHING the staff does must be because they are stupid and disorganized and have no idea what they are doing. Coley, who went out and found the best QB in Southern California, and STOLE him from right under UCLA and USCs noses, and who has seen Treon for a LONG time, INCLUDING since he was the OC at FSU, and all the other members of our staff that have seen him, and gee whiz, they just suddenly remembered to offer him at QB? My God I seriously dont know how some people even remember to breathe.

 

[CANE1775]

Since no one around here can seem to pull their heads out of their @sses long enough to THINK clearly without foaming at the mouth to b*tch about how stupid AG and the staff is, LETS THINK ABOUT THIS.

Treon is in our backyard. We have had the opportunity to offer him at QB this WHOLE time, but didnt. So what changed????

WHO was suspended for the bowl game and has had a LOT of bad rumors floating around him most of the season?

This isnt about the staff suddenly deciding they love Treon as a QB. This is about Olsen IMO. They think he's flaking out, or maybe even likely to bail, and now we may be looking at taking a 3rd QB in this class because things have CHANGED.

We didnt just suddenly decide that Treon is a great QB, either we struck out with other options and they have an offer and he was next on the board, OR, MORE LIKELY, one of the QBs on our roster is flaking out, and they have decided to try to bring in 3.

The majority of your posts are about how everyone else has their heads up their own asses. Get it together.

It's likely that hardly anyone thinks that this is about the staff "deciding they love Treon as a QB." This is about the staff being a solid three steps behind. Whether or not it has anything to do with Olsen is irrelevant to what this looks and feels like to the local crew. If you're not going to offer someone like Treon (QB or not) it's because you feel strongly about the situation. If you feel strongly about the situation, you don't alter that stance because there is "some movement" on the roster. This is bigger than the evaluation of a QB.

How is the staff "3 steps behind"? More bullsh*t. Even you have gone off the deep end here with the endless hate and negativity. Do you really think Golden and Coley are that stupid that they didnt evaluate this kid properly? They didnt offer him til NOW, despite all the other cr@p that has gone on. WHY? Because he was not high up on their QB board, thats why. We had 2 guys committed and they CLEARLY like them better. NOW, however, something has changed. And AMAZING cooincidence, it comes just after our prized 4 star QB recruit from last year, was just suspended, and there have been tons of rumors about his attitude, work ethic, and even possibility of transfer. And LO AND BEHOLD, we offer a 3rd QB.

You really dont see this for what it is?? You seriously think this is just AG and Coley being stupid and disorganized and not having thought about offering Treon at QB until now? REALLY? I honestly dont even know what to say at this point.

It's like you either didn't read or didn't comprehend Lu's post.

Either he don't know, don't show, or don't care about what's going on at tha U.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

Seems like a desperation move.

.

 

[japancane]

And as for all this BS about "Playing the game", maybe that's ALL this is. Anyone considered that? That maybe they have NO desire to take him at QB, but there were grumblings within the community that we are disprespecting him, and so we threw him the offer so he can say we offered him at QB, and smooth out any bad blood, but we did so knowing FULL well that he's gone and we have zero chance. We basically gave him a token offer knowing we have zero chance, to smooth out any negative stuff going on about "the hometown team not offering him". Its either THAT, or we have developed a problem that makes them feel they NOW need to take a 3rd QB.

so an almost spiteful offer, a month before signing day will help smooth things over?

 

[GlassHalfFull Guy]

My Personal thoughts: This offer was due to Harris in the summer, not a month before signing day. As you guys have mentioned, it's rather comical that Miami waits until Florida State wins a national championship to offer one of their QB commits.