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Tad Footeball said:
Spot on. And it's also quite questionable to believe the Sabag "methods" (even the legal ones) are remotely universally applicable across college football.

If these coaching mantras were transferable then you'd see the Belichick tree coaches not suck in the NFL- a much more even playing field not tied to geography or recruiting/cheating.
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I’d agree if we were talking about a program that doesn’t recruit well. We might not recruit at Alabama’s level, but he equates that number to the team and players development. I didn’t say it should be how we recruit. I’m only saying this game should give us insight into where we are, more so than the previous four games. If we look the same, we probably won’t be a better team eight weeks from now. Hopefully we look a lot different and we see it this week. It’s not my number, it’s Saben’s. I say he knows more about team and player development than anyone posting on this board. It’s not about starting, it’s about the game and practice time necessary for it all to come together. This should be the week we take a big step forward, if there’s a step to be made... by his number.
 
Boarcane said:
Recruiting and the coaches expectations of incoming freshman. Saben believes that week’s five and six will tell you everything you need to know about a freshman and his team overall. They recruit with the number one question on their list “can he start by week five” if that freshman has to. Well boys we’re here at home for week five. This week should be the real canary in the coal mine. If these 15 starting underclassman and this team looks great this week, it should bode* well for the rest of this season. If we look lost, I guess we’ll all start planning for 2020, because this season is a wrap. “According to the Nick Saben school of football prognosticating.”
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Read his book and his number one question is “can this guy help us win a championship”
 
Without the bag game of the bigger schools, it's going to take better coaching. There's enough talent in South Florida to win, but they have to compensate for losing the kids that are getting paid to go to the bigger schools and coach to the talent they have, especially at OL. They will not be able to pound the ball with true freshman OL. Miami has the location. They have the facilities now, but if they really want to keep the 5* kids reliably, instead of losing them to UGA/Alabama, they're going to have to get an established recruiting "network". People talk about winning, but before Saban every won at Alabama, that first class was full of big-time kids. I know he had a reputation, but he was coming off a year where he lost to UL-Monroe. Smart came in to UGA, and recruiting immediately took off. I don't think that was from his sparkling personality. UGA has also spent over $200 million on facilities since Smart got there.

Clemson made the changes. I think they probably had a come to Jesus meeting with their boosters about the amount of money it would take to get the kids they need. They paid Venables big money which seemed a little crazy at the time, but was also probably a sign of what they were doing on the recruiting side as well. Clemson was also patient enough to stick with Dabo, which would be tough in Miami, although he was a loss to USCe away from getting fired early on in his career.
 
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The NC2A is corrupt in every sense of the word. If they are going to allow a university to pay families and handlers then let’s put it all out there and just pay the players.

I’m not for the policy of paying the kids but it’s happening anyway and no one addresses it because it’s Alabama, Clemson and Ohio State. There is simply no way to compete for a natty unless you play ball it’s that simple. Moving forward Miami has to made a decision on what they want to do because the current model isn’t working.
 
I am not understanding this right or my math does not add up. Are you saying Freshman are expected to start by game 5 or they wish they never would have recruited them? How can 22 freshman start every year?
 
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