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SIAP JESS SIMPSON EXPECTED TO BE MIAMI'S NEW DL COACH

simplycanes said:
The magical Hawaiian looked off a safety and the UGA kid blew it. There was nothing schematic or revolutionary about that play. That rep was lost on the practice field not the football science department.
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Go watch Saban's interview after the game and he said "they went with Cover-2 and we ran Seattle, 4 verts, and he threw it in the hole."
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Correct me if I’m wrong, didn’t the corner just get flat out beat, caught flat footed, maybe just for a tiny nanosecond peeking into the backfield, so the wr got enough of a jump to get by him, and then the safety just didn’t get over in time. It looked like an ordinary everyday assignment breakdown to me on a simple go, nothing that schematically complex. Just an ordinary defensive breakdown. Corner gets beat, safety doesn’t back him up.
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No, they were in Cover-6 (1/4, 1/4, 1/2) the weakside Safety didn't get his *** over the top of the vertical.
 
simplycanes said:
99% of this bored had no clue who Kul was, in fact I distinctly recall people arguing he couldn't be all that because he spent so much time at Missouri. Now, we act like anyone on this board could name more than 5 elite DL coaches at any level of football. DL is where you make a smart hire, not a splash hire. Let's see how this guy pans out.
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Well said.
 
Gatorhater said:
Not slanted view at all. right? If you are talking about colleges, then the professors make very good money today and are overpaid for the crap they put out. High School is very different. Yes, coaches work longer hours but many teachers put in lots of extra time also. More important difference is the fact that coaches are working with a very narrow base of students and the survival of our civilization is hardly dependent on a few athletes. The broad student body in high school however, is in fact the future of the nation. Teaching is a vastly more important job than any game. That said, I love my Cane football so no amount of money is too much for people who help it along.
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That's all fine and dandy...AND YOU HAVE A POINT...but the truth is...very few teachers make that kind of difference. They're just pushing kids through. In all my years on earth I can think of like 1 maybe 2 teachers that made any impact on my life.

Regardless, they don't work as hard and/or generate as much money as coaches do. It's not a slanted view, it's the truth.
These coaches we're talking about are also teachers. You realize that, right?
I'm friends with tons of teachers. This isn't me guessing.
Any coach would tell you that his football job is harder than his teaching job.
 
FIUMCane said:
I know some of you guys like to pretend stars don't matter, but Wisconsin has like 3 four stars on the team. We were the more talented team and we were proving it by our 10 point lead in the first half. Not sticking with DJ Dallas after he brought us back from a bad start was a mistake by Richt. Not calling timeout the second QT when our defense was gassed was a mistake by Diaz. That Wisconsin game was probably the worst coached game I've ever seen (not considering al gondens time here or Shannon for that matter )
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Wisconsin is a different kind of program. They’ve had continuity and the ability to build depth and experience. I’d bet 80-90% of their roster redshirts.

They field a team of strong, developed and experienced players. We’re still burning redshirts and playing guys who may not be even be ready physically for the next level.

Stars matter but so does having the luxury of having a redshirt junior matched up against a true freshman or sophomore.
 
Coach Macho said:
No, they were in Cover-6 (1/4, 1/4, 1/2) the weakside Safety didn't get his *** over the top of the vertical.
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Corner runs with wr, gets beat, safety didn’t get over. Very simple and basic entry level concept. So is running all the verts. What am I missing?

I don’t care if they’re running a cover 2, cover 6 (?), cover Jesus, that’s what happened on the play.
 
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simplycanes said:
You're correct. Alabama WR, Devonta Smith, ran in a straight line and UGA guy(s) let him. We can try and dress that up all we want and create some football wizardry though. Much more fun. Likewise, we can credit Narduzzi for Rosier missing WR running wide open. Pure genius to scheme so our guys are "too wide open" for our inaccurate QB.
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Man that can be said about any ****** play.

"Ehhh that WR ran a slant and the defense just let him."

The fact is, the REASON Devonta Smith ran "a straight line" is because UGA went Cover-2 on that side of the field. And the reason the Hawaiian threw that ball to Devonta "straight line running" Smith IS BECAUSE UGA WAS IN COVER-2 ON THAT SIDE OF THE FIELD. (which Saban eluded to in a post game interview) If UGA isn't in Cover-2 then that throw isn't even attempted. If UGA calls 1/4's coverage on that play then the NC game has a different outcome. Scheme always matters.

I literally just watched Narduzzi give a clinic on Saturday in Orlando. He showed/talked about the Miami game for a few seconds. He obviously didn't intend to have WR's running open. (CB's do get beat, ya know)
But you can bet your ***, if I'm playing a QB that can't hit the broad side of a barn then I'm going to play tight coverage and force him to make more accurate throws. In Pitt's case, this worked against Miami.

An argument for scheme can be made in any game.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Corner runs with wr, gets beat, safety didn’t get over. Very simple and basic entry level concept. So is running all the verts. What am I missing?

I don’t care if they’re running a cover 2, cover 6 (?), cover Jesus, that’s what happened on the play.
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The CB didn't run with the WR. He played the flats. (cause...it...was...cover...2...on...his...side...of...the...field)

Against Cover-2 the throw you want to attempt is the "hole shot", right between the CB and the Safety. (which is where the ball was caught)
If the Safety doesn't get over in time then you should have a completion. In this case, he barely got over at all and it turned into a TD.

UGA ran Cover-2 and Bama called/hit the main play that exposes Cover-2.
How is that not scheme? You think that was done on accident?
If UGA is in ANY OTHER COVERAGE, that doesn't happen.
 
...and in point of fact, the end result, is in real time, he had to run with the WR. Or are my lying eyes deceiving me? And I’m not a football coach, but I know what a cover 2 is, I’m not that dazzled.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
...and in point of fact, the end result, is in real time, he had to run with the WR. Or are my lying eyes deceiving me? And I’m not a football coach, but I know what a cover 2 is, I’m not that dazzled.
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No. He's supposed to play the flats.
If he runs with the WR then what happens if Bama throws a flair to the RB or a shallow crosser coming from the 3 WR side? Or if the QB breaks contain to that side of the field? (nobody is there)

He couldn't done a better job of re-routing the WR though.

It was a combination of the right play call by Bama, poor re-route by UGA, great read by the Hawaiian, late Safety play by UGA.
But if UGA calls any other coverage in that instance then that play doesn't happen.
 
Coach Macho said:
Every play comes down to execution and obviously talent matters.
But to say scheme is irrelevant in college football is silly.

I watch teams get out-schemed all the time.
****, I watched our own team get out-schemed a bunch last season.
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tell me this macho, and i'm not saying this with attitude or mocking you I genuinely want your opinion on this

how did diaz get to the level he's at when you can see the mistakes being made but he can't?

I'm not just asking about diaz either, what about the other coaches too who else on the team have you seen get out schemed/coached/game planned?
 
Coach Macho said:
No. He's supposed to play the flats.
If he runs with the WR then what happens if Bama throws a flair to the RB or a shallow crosser coming from the 3 WR side? Or if the QB breaks contain to that side of the field? (nobody is there)

He couldn't done a better job of re-routing the WR though.

It was a combination of the right play call by Bama, poor re-route by UGA, great read by the Hawaiian, late Safety play by UGA.
But if UGA calls any other coverage in that instance then that play doesn't happen.
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The corner runs with the receiver the entire play.

 
Coach Macho said:
No. He's supposed to play the flats.
If he runs with the WR then what happens if Bama throws a flair to the RB or a shallow crosser coming from the 3 WR side? Or if the QB breaks contain to that side of the field? (nobody is there)

He couldn't done a better job of re-routing the WR though.

It was a combination of the right play call by Bama, poor re-route by UGA, great read by the Hawaiian, late Safety play by UGA.
But if UGA calls any other coverage in that instance then that play doesn't happen.
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What did he actually do, Macho?
 
pacusmc said:
Wisconsin was in the top 5 in time of possession and total defense and I think yards per play as well. And like 10 of their starters on defense were seniors. Tell me we lost to them with a full squad and no injuries especially the qb and the coaching thing would be more of an issue. We didn’t lose to a bad team.
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What injuries did we have on defense? Their QB sucked watch the Ohio State game for reference. On offense yes there were injuries but with the right QB O will be fine. They better be because they will have to outscore people to win games.
 
MikeCane18 said:
The corner runs with the receiver the entire play.

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I'm far from an expert, nor do I know what they teach at UGA. It sure looks like straight Cover 2. If you look at it from another angle you will see Bama had trips right with a single WR to the left. The Right Corner is actually positioned outside the WR with 6 yards cushion. Due to the timing of the game and it makes sense to back up a little on the lone WR side.

With the snap, the CB squares up and focuses on the WR. Seems to me like he tries to mirror the WR. He actually keeps outside leverage, which is absolutely crucial in C2. Never get beat outside, since the Safety will never cover this much ground (Unless your name is Ed Reed or Sean Taylor). He doesn't get a hand on the WR which is the biggest reason why he is this wide open. I disagree that he should've had the flat. Basic concepts of Cover 2 assign the flat to the CB, but if you look at higher level football you'll see the CB "sinking" with a WR if he's running a go route. The motto here is rather give up the flat, than the deep ball (especially with how fast these guys are planting and getting back to the flat). All it takes is for the safety to be looked off and you have an easy pitch and catch (like in this game).

The combination of not getting a hand on the WR and the safety hesitating and cheating to the middle of the field results in this easy TD... at least as far as I can tell lol
 
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