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SHOCKER!!! The Big Ten is going to cave.

DMoney said:
Least surprising news of the day. Penn State, a school known for protecting child rapists, was lying about myocarditis:

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Flat out lying. That guy was just promoting an agenda. Literally one nanosecond after I read it I knew it was bullshlt. When I read the article, it just confirmed that it was all made up.
 
JD08 said:
Are you suggesting that it's unlikely that college athletes, at a young age and in peak physical condition, aren't suffering from a rare side effect of viral infections at a rate not seen in the general population, not even the elderly and infirmed? How dare you deny science.
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Science has let humans down so many times it's incredible. The whole idea of second opinions and malpractice proves it.
 
A “re-vote” is scheduled for tomorrow on an October 10th start date, according to some reporters on Twitter.

It’s apparently being kept so hush hush because people on the inside are sick of the way some of the CFB reporters have gone about the process.
 
Word is Kevin Warren hired a "crisis PR team" to handle all communication with national media. Yesterday's absolute sh*t show of social media posts, etc. seemed to drive that decision.

The expectation is the Presidents and Chancellors of Big Ten schools WILL hold some kind of 'vote' either Friday or Saturday. There is a scheduled Conference call between Presidents/Chancellors already scheduled for Friday so it is unknown if a vote will occur then or take place in a separate call on Saturday. It is being speculated that the vote will include the ability for a school to "opt out" of playing, regardless of how they vote. The vote could be 6 to 10 teams will opt in to play and 4 to 8 teams will opt out. Those who may "opt out" would include Maryland, Rutgers, Michigan State, Minnesota, Illinois and Northwestern . Those who likely decide to play include OSU, Nebraska, Iowa, Wisconsin, Penn State, Purdue, Indiana and Michigan.
It is believed that behind the scenes there has been pressure on all Presidents to vote in favor of playing , thus getting a unanimous vote. The "out" for those who don't want to play is the "opt out" loophole.

The schedule could end up being a 10 game conference only schedule if the number of opt-out schools are on the lower end. Otherwise a schedule with a home-away series with schools could be crafted.

It sounds like there is a strong belief that IF the Big Ten votes to begin fall sports, especially football, immediately - October 10th is the date being thrown around- the lawsuit initiated against the Big Ten by the Nebraska football players will be dropped. Warren and the Presidents/Chancellors do NOT want to continue forward with the latest court ordered discovery and the possibility of perjury unveiled due to the signed affidavit of a previous "vote".
 
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1LuvCane said:
Science has let humans down so many times it's incredible. The whole idea of second opinions and malpractice proves it.
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I would say the humans have let down science. The science and math that governs our physical universe is there; the issue is most of it we don’t understand yet. Throw your politics into the situation and many people will decide not to understand it to push a certain directive.

that’s the world, here in 2020.
 
How many college football players, who have been practicing, hands on in close proximity for a month, are currently in an ICU or even hospitalized with COVID-19?
 
gabedm said:
I would say the humans have let down science. The science and math that governs our physical universe is there; the issue is most of it we don’t understand yet. Throw your politics into the situation and many people will decide not to understand it to push a certain directive.

that’s the world, here in 2020.
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The more I learn about statistics the more I see how easy it is to manipulate data to the point where it's hard to argue with. It's kind of scary how much faith people put in inferential statistics.
 
gabedm said:
I would say the humans have let down science. The science and math that governs our physical universe is there; the issue is most of it we don’t understand yet. Throw your politics into the situation and many people will decide not to understand it to push a certain directive.

that’s the world, here in 2020.
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Seems like it's a matter of perspective...
 
JD08 said:
The more I learn about statistics the more I see how easy it is to manipulate data to the point where it's hard to argue with. It's kind of scary how much faith people put in inferential statistics.
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Statistics aren’t the problem. It’s interpretation of statistics that are the problem.
 
Hoyacane1620 said:
Tom Mars looking to bring the major Big Ten boosters into the battle:

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Do we not think the actual power player boosters at each school aren't tied into at minimum what has transpired at their institution on this front?

I'm personally very skeptical of anything Tom Mars puts out as being anything more than an attempt to shape public opinion and more importantly boost his own profile since he's basically just an attorney that injected himself into this whole debacle.
 
Hoyacane1620 said:
Word is Kevin Warren hired a "crisis PR team" to handle all communication with national media. Yesterday's absolute sh*t show of social media posts, etc. seemed to drive that decision.

The expectation is the Presidents and Chancellors of Big Ten schools WILL hold some kind of 'vote' either Friday or Saturday. There is a scheduled Conference call between Presidents/Chancellors already scheduled for Friday so it is unknown if a vote will occur then or take place in a separate call on Saturday. It is being speculated that the vote will include the ability for a school to "opt out" of playing, regardless of how they vote. The vote could be 6 to 10 teams will opt in to play and 4 to 8 teams will opt out. Those who may "opt out" would include Maryland, Rutgers, Michigan State, Minnesota, Illinois and Northwestern . Those who likely decide to play include OSU, Nebraska, Iowa, Wisconsin, Penn State, Purdue, Indiana and Michigan.
It is believed that behind the scenes there has been pressure on all Presidents to vote in favor of playing , thus getting a unanimous vote. The "out" for those who don't want to play is the "opt out" loophole.

The schedule could end up being a 10 game conference only schedule if the number of opt-out schools are on the lower end. Otherwise a schedule with a home-away series with schools could be crafted.

It sounds like there is a strong belief that IF the Big Ten votes to begin fall sports, especially football, immediately - October 10th is the date being thrown around- the lawsuit initiated against the Big Ten by the Nebraska football players will be dropped. Warren and the Presidents/Chancellors do NOT want to continue forward with the latest court ordered discovery and the possibility of perjury unveiled due to the signed affidavit of a previous "vote".
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Vote will be Monday. Here’s the update, 9 will vote yes, 5 will vote no but the conference has yet to decide if the vote must be unanimous or a majority. My source has been pretty solid on this matter dating back to July. Last vote was 11 no, 3 yes. Lot going on way behind the scenes
 
Bernie 2-0 said:
Here’s the update, 9 will vote yes, 5 will vote no but the conference has yet to decide if the vote must be unanimous or a majority. My source has been pretty solid on this matter dating back to July. Last vote was 11 no, 3 yes. Lot going on way behind the scenes
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Your little10 has gone from being a clown show, to a full on shlt show.
 
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