Shannon

[umhurricane2511]

The only thing you need to know about Shannon is 48-0...



Y'all ******** act like y'all forgot about the last game in the OB

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[Alexdw85]

They are both equal. They both were obsessed with running their defensive schemes as opposed to fitting it around the talent they had, but Shannon's actually worked to some extent.

But for all that "Shannon is a Miami guy" talk, people forget how he out and out quit recruiting the last couple of years. His last two classes were atrocious and were pretty much him being lazy and not wanting to go after guys. In spite of Golden's ******** up on SoFla recruiting, he's at least still recruiting. Granted, we'll lose a bunch of them when better offers come along.

What?? lmao no they are not equal, not even close. Folden is historically bad, arguably worst coach ever in team sports.

Both obsessed with running their defensive scheme? are you kidding me? have u actually watched UM the past 10-15 years or are u just pulling sht our ur ***? Shannon was actually a proven D-coordinator who knew what the fk he was doing with the defense. How anybody can compare Shannon's D to Folden's 500 yard a game prevent defense is beyond me. Not even close, Shannon's Defenses were 100 times better. Folden has fielded the worst defenses in UM history.

Shannon beat FSU, actually won some big games (which Folden has never come close to) and didnt lose consistently to teams we should beat.

Recruiting? The best talent Al has had here at UM have been Randy's recruits (including most recently walford, dorsett, Duke, Flowers,etc and remember he had to be talked into taking Perryman). We also had Teddy fkin Bridgewater on the way. Everybody hates on the 2008 class but they were the #1 ranked in the nation. Meanwhile Folden keeps striking out in Dade County losing out to FSU and UF and recruiting 2 star coal shovelers who belong in division 2 schools.

People love to exaggerate to boost up Folden. Shannon was actually held to certain expectations while he was here. Folden? not so much. If Folden accomplished what Shannon did he'd have a fkin lifetime contract and all the slurpers would be singing his praises. Shannon was bad as HC here, but cmon gtfoh ill take him 1000 times over al fkin golden. and with Shannon we didnt have to hear a parade of the most BS excuses you can think of after every game and be told to shut up that were too busy *****ing to see the progress after consistently getting our *** beat (oh and constantly throwing players under the bus).

fk Al Folden. got me yearning for the coker and shannon years, at least we could get excited about winning some big games once in a while. expectations when they were here were nothing like they are now. Now we make excuses for losing to fkin Cincinatti and keep hope alive for the fkin Coastal smh

Speaking of pulling **** out of your ***, you apparently didn't see the part where I said Shannon's defense was better. Lol @ me boosting Folden. Ive wanted him fired for two years now but you've created a strawman so go to town on it. And yes they both obsessed with running their scheme. The fact you questioned this makes me think you didn't actually watch a game under Shannon. We ran the Cover 2 pretty much exclusively. We rarely blitzed which drove many of us on the board crazy at the time. We thought it was too conservative. This was of course before we saw the Golden Prevent D at all times.

That doesn't mean Shannon didn't field better defenses. He easily did because the scheme he ran was more suited for the talent we have. But let's not pretend like his defense didn't get gashed a lot too because it happened quite often. Or do you not remember us not being able to cover a tight end drag in that 48-0 debacle on the last night of the OB?

I gather you have completely forgotten how Shannon quit recruiting the last two years too. When Shannon was fired we had some absurd number of commits, like about 4 or 5 and only one visit scheduled. I know you want to defend him, but that's inexcusable. Its pretty well known he put no effort in recruiting the last two years.

Shannon wasn't worlds better than Golden. He was the same. That means he deservedly got fired and deservedly hasn't sniffed a HC job since. The same should have been true for Folden last year....

 

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

I'll never understand why some of our fans insist on using Golden's sucking to whitewash the Shannon era. Just because Golden is a terrible coach, that doesn't change the fact that Shannon was also a complete failure as a head coach. It's like starving and being given a can of dog food to a can of cat food to eat. Maybe the dog food tastes slightly less horrible but at the end of the day all you can say is that wasn't as bad as the cat food. Is that really something to be happy about?

 

[Al Foil]

Shannon tried desperately to bring the right offensive coordinator to Miami. He tried to hire:

Chip Kelly (Don't believe me? It is 100% true. Randy was a huge admirer of Kelly. Embedded with Oregon Ducks coach Chip Kelly for Boise State game.)

Kevin Sumlin

Dirk Koetter (Dirk had a deal signed but backed out. O Dirk Where Art Thou? | allCanes)

Shannon would still be coaching here if he was able to land those guys.

Here is the biggest difference between the two. Shannon was poor at all areas of coaching. Golden is decent to good at everything other than the game. The program is in better shape right now, and if they hire the right coach we have a good chance to get back to the top 10.

 

[Al Foil]

Randy was a great D Coordinator when he had Butch's talent. Randy could not recruit on the defensive side of the ball to save his life.

I'll never understand why some of our fans insist on using Golden's sucking to whitewash the Shannon era. Just because Golden is a terrible coach, that doesn't change the fact that Shannon was also a complete failure as a head coach. It's like starving and being given a can of dog food to a can of cat food to eat. Maybe the dog food tastes slightly less horrible but at the end of the day all you can say is that wasn't as bad as the cat food. Is that really something to be happy about?

 

[nickster]

I never ever thought I would see the day when I witness a day game coach worse the Randy. Well Al has taken that crown by a LONG SHOT and no one will ever surpass him. Other thing is I like Randy and he is a testiomony what can happen with adversity in your life. On the other hand I have very little respect or warmth for Al Golden.

 

[canesrdynamite]

Dude was over his head in his first head coaching gig, sure, but was as Hurricane as you can get. It's a shame for everybody that it went how it did.

I had lost track of RS. Didn't realize he's a dc/assoc head coach with UF now. F a gator but good for him.

 

[Deez Nuts]

They are both equal. They both were obsessed with running their defensive schemes as opposed to fitting it around the talent they had, but Shannon's actually worked to some extent.

But for all that "Shannon is a Miami guy" talk, people forget how he out and out quit recruiting the last couple of years. His last two classes were atrocious and were pretty much him being lazy and not wanting to go after guys. In spite of Golden's ******** up on SoFla recruiting, he's at least still recruiting. Granted, we'll lose a bunch of them when better offers come along.

What?? lmao no they are not equal, not even close. Folden is historically bad, arguably worst coach ever in team sports.

Both obsessed with running their defensive scheme? are you kidding me? have u actually watched UM the past 10-15 years or are u just pulling sht our ur ***? Shannon was actually a proven D-coordinator who knew what the fk he was doing with the defense. How anybody can compare Shannon's D to Folden's 500 yard a game prevent defense is beyond me. Not even close, Shannon's Defenses were 100 times better. Folden has fielded the worst defenses in UM history.

Shannon beat FSU, actually won some big games (which Folden has never come close to) and didnt lose consistently to teams we should beat.

Recruiting? The best talent Al has had here at UM have been Randy's recruits (including most recently walford, dorsett, Duke, Flowers,etc and remember he had to be talked into taking Perryman). We also had Teddy fkin Bridgewater on the way. Everybody hates on the 2008 class but they were the #1 ranked in the nation. Meanwhile Folden keeps striking out in Dade County losing out to FSU and UF and recruiting 2 star coal shovelers who belong in division 2 schools.

People love to exaggerate to boost up Folden. Shannon was actually held to certain expectations while he was here. Folden? not so much. If Folden accomplished what Shannon did he'd have a fkin lifetime contract and all the slurpers would be singing his praises. Shannon was bad as HC here, but cmon gtfoh ill take him 1000 times over al fkin golden. and with Shannon we didnt have to hear a parade of the most BS excuses you can think of after every game and be told to shut up that were too busy *****ing to see the progress after consistently getting our *** beat (oh and constantly throwing players under the bus).

fk Al Folden. got me yearning for the coker and shannon years, at least we could get excited about winning some big games once in a while. expectations when they were here were nothing like they are now. Now we make excuses for losing to fkin Cincinatti and keep hope alive for the fkin Coastal smh

Speaking of pulling **** out of your ***, you apparently didn't see the part where I said Shannon's defense was better. Lol @ me boosting Folden. Ive wanted him fired for two years now but you've created a strawman so go to town on it. And yes they both obsessed with running their scheme. The fact you questioned this makes me think you didn't actually watch a game under Shannon. We ran the Cover 2 pretty much exclusively. We rarely blitzed which drove many of us on the board crazy at the time. We thought it was too conservative. This was of course before we saw the Golden Prevent D at all times.

That doesn't mean Shannon didn't field better defenses. He easily did because the scheme he ran was more suited for the talent we have. But let's not pretend like his defense didn't get gashed a lot too because it happened quite often. Or do you not remember us not being able to cover a tight end drag in that 48-0 debacle on the last night of the OB?

I gather you have completely forgotten how Shannon quit recruiting the last two years too. When Shannon was fired we had some absurd number of commits, like about 4 or 5 and only one visit scheduled. I know you want to defend him, but that's inexcusable. Its pretty well known he put no effort in recruiting the last two years.

Shannon wasn't worlds better than Golden. He was the same. That means he deservedly got fired and deservedly hasn't sniffed a HC job since. The same should have been true for Folden last year....

GTFOH like i said anybody who thinks Shannon was as bad or even close to being as bad as Folden is nothing less than a slurper.

The audacity to even compare Shannon's defenses to the abomination that Al Folden calls a defense is absurd.
What part of worst defenses in UM history dont you understand? There is no comparison. Shouldnt be in the same sentence.

48-0 vs Virginia, is that all you slurpers ever bring up? b/c Folden is 1-3 against ****tier Virginia teams. and Shannon actually won some big games against ranked teams...cant say the same for Al.

No effort into recruiting? did you not read that Al Folden's best players are all Shannon's guys? lmao all the players Folden ever had drafted including just last year duke, flowers, linder, feliciano, hurns, dorsett, etc lmao and teddy bridgewater was also on the way. did you skip over that part?

shannon mightve not been a good coach, but lmao at you reaching so hard to compare him to el foldo. dont exaggerate how bad the shannon years were. at the time we thought it was bad, but we had no idea what was coming up. like i said, al has left me yearnin for coker and shannon years. at least we used to play for something and had expectations. shannon is fkin nick saban next to folden. i am the least excited i ever been about UM football. honestly, i could give 2 fks if we get hammered by 60 on saturday, we deserve it. it sucks that i cant even get excited about my canes anymore, we are now the opposite of what UM football used to stand for.

 

[lauderdaleballer]

They are both equal. They both were obsessed with running their defensive schemes as opposed to fitting it around the talent they had, but Shannon's actually worked to some extent.

But for all that "Shannon is a Miami guy" talk, people forget how he out and out quit recruiting the last couple of years. His last two classes were atrocious and were pretty much him being lazy and not wanting to go after guys. In spite of Golden's ******** up on SoFla recruiting, he's at least still recruiting. Granted, we'll lose a bunch of them when better offers come along.

What?? lmao no they are not equal, not even close. Folden is historically bad, arguably worst coach ever in team sports.

Both obsessed with running their defensive scheme? are you kidding me? have u actually watched UM the past 10-15 years or are u just pulling sht our ur ***? Shannon was actually a proven D-coordinator who knew what the fk he was doing with the defense. How anybody can compare Shannon's D to Folden's 500 yard a game prevent defense is beyond me. Not even close, Shannon's Defenses were 100 times better. Folden has fielded the worst defenses in UM history.

Shannon beat FSU, actually won some big games (which Folden has never come close to) and didnt lose consistently to teams we should beat.

Recruiting? The best talent Al has had here at UM have been Randy's recruits (including most recently walford, dorsett, Duke, Flowers,etc and remember he had to be talked into taking Perryman). We also had Teddy fkin Bridgewater on the way. Everybody hates on the 2008 class but they were the #1 ranked in the nation. Meanwhile Folden keeps striking out in Dade County losing out to FSU and UF and recruiting 2 star coal shovelers who belong in division 2 schools.

People love to exaggerate to boost up Folden. Shannon was actually held to certain expectations while he was here. Folden? not so much. If Folden accomplished what Shannon did he'd have a fkin lifetime contract and all the slurpers would be singing his praises. Shannon was bad as HC here, but cmon gtfoh ill take him 1000 times over al fkin golden. and with Shannon we didnt have to hear a parade of the most BS excuses you can think of after every game and be told to shut up that were too busy *****ing to see the progress after consistently getting our *** beat (oh and constantly throwing players under the bus).

fk Al Folden. got me yearning for the coker and shannon years, at least we could get excited about winning some big games once in a while. expectations when they were here were nothing like they are now. Now we make excuses for losing to fkin Cincinatti and keep hope alive for the fkin Coastal smh

Speaking of pulling **** out of your ***, you apparently didn't see the part where I said Shannon's defense was better. Lol @ me boosting Folden. Ive wanted him fired for two years now but you've created a strawman so go to town on it. And yes they both obsessed with running their scheme. The fact you questioned this makes me think you didn't actually watch a game under Shannon. We ran the Cover 2 pretty much exclusively. We rarely blitzed which drove many of us on the board crazy at the time. We thought it was too conservative. This was of course before we saw the Golden Prevent D at all times.

That doesn't mean Shannon didn't field better defenses. He easily did because the scheme he ran was more suited for the talent we have. But let's not pretend like his defense didn't get gashed a lot too because it happened quite often. Or do you not remember us not being able to cover a tight end drag in that 48-0 debacle on the last night of the OB?

I gather you have completely forgotten how Shannon quit recruiting the last two years too. When Shannon was fired we had some absurd number of commits, like about 4 or 5 and only one visit scheduled. I know you want to defend him, but that's inexcusable. Its pretty well known he put no effort in recruiting the last two years.

Shannon wasn't worlds better than Golden. He was the same. That means he deservedly got fired and deservedly hasn't sniffed a HC job since. The same should have been true for Folden last year....

We had no visits scheduled because Hocutt cancelled them all. The program was toxic at that time. It was toxic prior to the season even starting however, the recruiting thing is way overblown. RS left Al with plethora of NFL talent. Look at the 2010 and 2011 talent Al inherited. He had 3 NFL tight ends (Clive statistically the best of all time), He left Al with 3 NFL backs on the roster with a Duke commitment (Duke pledged to RS as a junior and broke the rushing record), he left him with 5 NFL wideouts (Hurns single season record holder), He left Al with countless NFL online talent.

People say he got lazy recruiting and that is usually in result of the 2010 class but turns out he found quite a few gems within that class for instance Clive and Hitns who everyone killed him over. He had misses but the roster wasn't as voided as it is now.

 

[lauderdaleballer]

Randy was a great D Coordinator when he had Butch's talent. Randy could not recruit on the defensive side of the ball to save his life.

I'll never understand why some of our fans insist on using Golden's sucking to whitewash the Shannon era. Just because Golden is a terrible coach, that doesn't change the fact that Shannon was also a complete failure as a head coach. It's like starving and being given a can of dog food to a can of cat food to eat. Maybe the dog food tastes slightly less horrible but at the end of the day all you can say is that wasn't as bad as the cat food. Is that really something to be happy about?

His defenses were still consistently good until he got fired. I mean even his defense in 05 which didn't have Butch talent were good. Even in 2010 besides the FSU game the defense was good.

 

[lauderdaleballer]

An let's keep in mind RS was a 1st time HC. You should never be a first time HC at UM unless you plan on rebuilding for 6 years. No Al had experience and is worse.

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

Randy Shannon had no administration support...a *** got ***, ponzi schemin' booster to contend with...an undermining OC...only 1 good recruiting class...had to tell parents UM is not in Miami...had to assure recruits He had job security, even though that extension they gave em' was a front...and He went 28-22.

Minus the *** got ***, ponzi schemin' booster, Golden has all of the above, and Golden is only 3 wins better than Randy Shannon...go figure.

 

[daddacane]

Look at the record...Randy was one of the best DC's that coached at the "U". Why do you think McAlwain brought him to Florida as the coach in waiting while he handles the Defense and Linebackers...Gators looked like Hurricanes Defense from the 80's during the beat down on Mississippi. I mean a BEAT DOWN by Randy Shannon coached players...

 

[Deez Nuts]

Look at the record...Randy was one of the best DC's that coached at the "U". Why do you think McAlwain brought him to Florida as the coach in waiting while he handles the Defense and Linebackers...Gators looked like Hurricanes Defense from the 80's during the beat down on Mississippi. I mean a BEAT DOWN by Randy Shannon coached players...

exactly, but let these fools on here tell it and randy is just as bad as golden lmao

its like they dont remember his history coaching defense at UM. he always had top ranked defenses at UM and you got this guy on here trying to tell me that shannon was "stuck in his ways and obsessed with his defensive scheme like Golden" lmao shannon's worst defense at UM was 100 times better than any defense Folden has ever fielded. He actually had a clue wtf he was doing on Defense.

Talk all the sht you want about randy but he is a proven defensive coordinator who had alotta success down here. people only talk about his years as HC but conveniently forget he had been leading our defense since 2001.

 

[Coach Macho]

Randy was a great D Coordinator when he had Butch's talent. Randy could not recruit on the defensive side of the ball to save his life.

I'll never understand why some of our fans insist on using Golden's sucking to whitewash the Shannon era. Just because Golden is a terrible coach, that doesn't change the fact that Shannon was also a complete failure as a head coach. It's like starving and being given a can of dog food to a can of cat food to eat. Maybe the dog food tastes slightly less horrible but at the end of the day all you can say is that wasn't as bad as the cat food. Is that really something to be happy about?

His defenses were still consistently good until he got fired. I mean even his defense in 05 which didn't have Butch talent were good. Even in 2010 besides the FSU game the defense was good.

2010 defense was 3rd in the nation in Passing Defense and also among the top in INT's, Sacks and TFL's.

 

[Alexdw85]

Look at the record...Randy was one of the best DC's that coached at the "U". Why do you think McAlwain brought him to Florida as the coach in waiting while he handles the Defense and Linebackers...Gators looked like Hurricanes Defense from the 80's during the beat down on Mississippi. I mean a BEAT DOWN by Randy Shannon coached players...

exactly, but let these fools on here tell it and randy is just as bad as golden lmao

its like they dont remember his history coaching defense at UM. he always had top ranked defenses at UM and you got this guy on here trying to tell me that shannon was "stuck in his ways and obsessed with his defensive scheme like Golden" lmao shannon's worst defense at UM was 100 times better than any defense Folden has ever fielded. He actually had a clue wtf he was doing on Defense.

Talk all the sht you want about randy but he is a proven defensive coordinator who had alotta success down here. people only talk about his years as HC but conveniently forget he had been leading our defense since 2001.

Look at the record: Golden's and Shannons are the same LMAO. You seem to take any criticism of him as unjustified. Why? Are you disputing he didnt run the same defense over and over? Im not following how me saying that is some vicious unjustified attack on Shannon. I already said Shannon had good defenses. Did you miss that part too?

I think you were probably a Shannon supporter and feel after 5 disastrous years of Golden, your wrong opinion then is now somehow justified. Its not. He sucked as a coach here just like Golden has sucked.

 

[lauderdaleballer]

Look at the record...Randy was one of the best DC's that coached at the "U". Why do you think McAlwain brought him to Florida as the coach in waiting while he handles the Defense and Linebackers...Gators looked like Hurricanes Defense from the 80's during the beat down on Mississippi. I mean a BEAT DOWN by Randy Shannon coached players...

exactly, but let these fools on here tell it and randy is just as bad as golden lmao

its like they dont remember his history coaching defense at UM. he always had top ranked defenses at UM and you got this guy on here trying to tell me that shannon was "stuck in his ways and obsessed with his defensive scheme like Golden" lmao shannon's worst defense at UM was 100 times better than any defense Folden has ever fielded. He actually had a clue wtf he was doing on Defense.

Talk all the sht you want about randy but he is a proven defensive coordinator who had alotta success down here. people only talk about his years as HC but conveniently forget he had been leading our defense since 2001.

Look at the record: Golden's and Shannons are the same LMAO

But that was RS 1st gig in a stronger coastal. This is Al's 2nd gig in a weaker division.

 

[Alexdw85]

I'll never understand why some of our fans insist on using Golden's sucking to whitewash the Shannon era. Just because Golden is a terrible coach, that doesn't change the fact that Shannon was also a complete failure as a head coach. It's like starving and being given a can of dog food to a can of cat food to eat. Maybe the dog food tastes slightly less horrible but at the end of the day all you can say is that wasn't as bad as the cat food. Is that really something to be happy about?

This is the last remnant of the Shannon supporters. When they realize the foolishness of their coaching arguments, they will backtrack to Shannon's reign as DC as if thats what were talking about.

 

[Alexdw85]

Look at the record...Randy was one of the best DC's that coached at the "U". Why do you think McAlwain brought him to Florida as the coach in waiting while he handles the Defense and Linebackers...Gators looked like Hurricanes Defense from the 80's during the beat down on Mississippi. I mean a BEAT DOWN by Randy Shannon coached players...

exactly, but let these fools on here tell it and randy is just as bad as golden lmao

its like they dont remember his history coaching defense at UM. he always had top ranked defenses at UM and you got this guy on here trying to tell me that shannon was "stuck in his ways and obsessed with his defensive scheme like Golden" lmao shannon's worst defense at UM was 100 times better than any defense Folden has ever fielded. He actually had a clue wtf he was doing on Defense.

Talk all the sht you want about randy but he is a proven defensive coordinator who had alotta success down here. people only talk about his years as HC but conveniently forget he had been leading our defense since 2001.

Look at the record: Golden's and Shannons are the same LMAO

But that was RS 1st gig in a stronger coastal. This is Al's 2nd gig in a weaker division.

Oh so we're now going to move the goalposts and say it was Shannons first gig and the Coastal was stronger. So thereby the steaming sack of crap Shannon was as a coach is not as bad smelling as the steaming sack of crap Golden is.

Can you admit Shannon was a bad coach?

 

[OzarCaneSaw]

Randy was a great D Coordinator when he had Butch's talent. Randy could not recruit on the defensive side of the ball to save his life.

I'll never understand why some of our fans insist on using Golden's sucking to whitewash the Shannon era. Just because Golden is a terrible coach, that doesn't change the fact that Shannon was also a complete failure as a head coach. It's like starving and being given a can of dog food to a can of cat food to eat. Maybe the dog food tastes slightly less horrible but at the end of the day all you can say is that wasn't as bad as the cat food. Is that really something to be happy about?

His defenses were still consistently good until he got fired. I mean even his defense in 05 which didn't have Butch talent were good. Even in 2010 besides the FSU game the defense was good.

2010 defense was 3rd in the nation in Passing Defense and also among the top in INT's, Sacks and TFL's.

Iirc, Randy's 3rd or 4th years numbers doubled Golden's 3rd or 4th years.