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Shannon Dawson

ShadowSpring said:
Dawson has 2 weeks to figure out some good ways to attack a team with 2 high safeties. I believe FSU had a similar plan last year and slowed us down. I think you guys need to keep in mind there were a lot of pre-snap penalties which really hurt us. Dawson was playing dink and dunk and running, those penalties are really what stopped us. I think #9 is the key. He can really unlock that next level to our offense if teams wanna sit back and slow down our WR game. Also great job by Dawson using the RB specifically Brown.
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GT x2.

Have to split those safeties and train Beck to take the EZ money in the flats.

On that INT to Cormanie McDouche, Fletcher was open in the flat for a good 8 yards. Take that ALL DAY.
 
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Gi0logy said:
I will say check down game can probably contribute 100+ easy yards a game if Beck goes through his reads quickly and just takes the check down.
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I agree. My point is, that's asking a lot. Most QBs cant do that consistently and accurately in college or NFL. Most QBs are at their best, mechanically and emotionally, in their first read. Make the first read the best read instead of asking your QB to be Tom Brady. Hes legit the only QB ive ever seen that can do that all game with precision and consistency. And when hes been hit a few times even he las lost mechanics from being rattled.
 
There was a play on the first drive of the 3rd quarter, we were winning 13-0 and we ran it on 4th and 1. Nobody is talking about this play at all, but Marty Brown scored from 48 yards away, and the referees stole it and gave us a gain of 3 instead.

I wonder how everyone feels about Dawson today if the game is 20-0 at that point?

If they just do their ******* jobs, here is how our drive chart looks:

7 plays, touchdown
15 plays, field goal
6 plays, punt
3 plays, punt
10 plays, field goal
8 plays, touchdown

Not too bad, 3.33 points per drive, probably a top 5 mark in the country annually.
 
Canezum5 said:
Every time I criticize this guy I get fans on here coming at my neck. Yet, film doesn't lie.

Any team who plays DBs play very physical and they run 2 high safeties with alternate coverages from presnap to post snap put Dawson in a bind. He forces vertical routes into the strength of the defense instead of taking the underneath and short routes.

We could have WR screen, Tight End boot, and ran Florida off the **** field. Especially in less than favorable conditions for vertical passing. Yet, this man CONTINUES TO run intermediate to deep route concepts.

It is very hard for a QB to make it through 2 reads, let alone 3 and make an accurate check down. Most QBs in all of football just cant do that **** and let's be honest, NO ONE wants to get hit while standing back there so mechanics disappear.

Dawson should have helped his QB by making the first read in his calls a shorter route to his best route runner.

All Florida did was employ the strategy Georgia Tech uses. Notice a pattern? No matter the QB they struggle and the offense stagnates.

When teams use this strategy we have to use the TEs, backs, and attack the flats and keep the ******* chains moving.
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I love people who cite the "film" and then prove that they didn't watch the game.

Beck has been doing nothing but take the easy throws/checkdowns and somehow you're claiming that all we do is run intermediate and deep routes?
 
Hoyacane1620 said:
Yet according to Pete and others on this site, he didn't really show that in camp....

IDK

I've never been 100% bought in on Dawson. He had it easy last year with Cam. Carson seems like a WB who works within the game plan. He didn't have the freedom to change much, if anything, at UGA. Maybe he needs to try it more like Cam did if Dawson isn't going to scheme it up
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I’ve been fairly critical of Dawson as an OC.

He’s above average, and with a talent advantage 90% of the time, that should take us pretty far each year.

I will also give him credit, he’s added some more swing passes to RBs, some jet motion, and yes, he ran at least 2 counter plays vs UF.

But he’s not a wizard that consistently schemes guys open, and his route concepts could use more variety.

My biggest gripe with him is that he too easily reverts to his “old standards” and if we really are planning to make a deep run for a Natty, eventually where are gonna compete against equal or better coached teams. He hasn’t shown he can play the game of chess, and anticipate the opposing DC, and time his counter moves

Dawson slurpers that have never played ball are gonna get ****y, but luckily we’ve got enough guys on CIS seeing the same thing as me
 
Canezum5 said:
Preeeaaachhhh. Its A-ok to respect a guys results on comparison to what you've had before and ALSO give constructive criticism and reproach. There's no need for anyone to attack others who call it flaws or defend/exalt someone to the point that they're above reproach.
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It's not an attack to say that you don't know what you're talking about. Because you clearly don't.
 
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simplycanes said:
GT x2.

Have to split those safeties and train Beck to take the EZ money in the flats.

On that INT to Cormanie McDouche, Fletcher was open in the flat for a good 8 yards. Take that ALL DAY.
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Yes, but that's the last read in the progression. Dawson teaches his QBs to read high to low. Having a WR one on one on a deep route is typically favorable and most OCs with vertical route concepts would like you to take advantage of the lack of safety help. Its what's considered a 50/50 ball.

I didnt mind the decision to throw it. The ball trajectory was a bigger concern. Gotta throw that to the open field with a little more air under it. Can't throw a fast ball with an athletic DB in good position. Gotta make the DB run and give your WR a chance to fight for the ball if nothing else.
 
Brad_Wellson said:
It's not an attack to say that you don't know what you're talking about. Because you clearly don't.
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Ok, Brad. Thanks for the lesson and exposure of my lack thereof with valid rebuttals and strong points that counter my argument. Keep up the great work Mr. Wellson. a promotion to lead commenter and a coronation as football Savant is headed your way.
 
Canezum5 said:
Ok, Brad. Thanks for the lesson and exposure of my lack thereof with valid rebuttals and strong points that counter my argument. Keep up the great work Mr. Wellson. a promotion to lead commenter and a coronation as football Savant is headed your way.
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You said something that's objectively wrong. It doesn't require a magnum opus to rebut it.
 
Canezum5 said:
Yes, but that's the last read in the progression. Dawson teaches his QBs to read high to low. Having a WR one on one on a deep route is typically favorable and most OCs with vertical route concepts would like you to take advantage of the lack of safety help. Its what's considered a 50/50 ball.

I didnt mind the decision to throw it. The ball trajectory was a bigger concern. Gotta throw that to the open field with a little more air under it. Can't throw a fast ball with an athletic DB in good position. Gotta make the DB run and give your WR a chance to fight for the ball if nothing else.
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There's going through progressions and sensing when the clock has expired on a route. I think it was the latter, personally. He was under pressure and throwing off platform, which isn't his strength. Situationally, game-wise, weather-wise, pressure-wise, I am going to guess in film review, flipping that to #4 is what is taught. JMO.
 
The U is back to work said:
I agree and I still hate his run game half the time but let’s remember - the WR group has 100% overachieved. Maybe they just aren’t very good but have had a bunch of moments. I will say they seemingly are amazing run blockers I could not believe how mad they were making the UF DBs. They were fighting every play.
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Well, at least he is throwing in a few effective counters here and there…lol
 
Brad_Wellson said:
You said something that's objectively wrong. It doesn't require a magnum opus to rebut it.
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You saying its wrong isnt that same as proving its wrong. You haven't proved anything or made any valid points to rebuttal mine. Its one thing to take the check down, its another to accurately check it down. Im asking Dawson to make the first read a shorter route instead of forcing the QB to go through his progressions and throw a check down when hes been inconsistent in doing so. Not sure what point you're trying to make here.
 
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simplycanes said:
There's going through progressions and sensing when the clock has expired on a route. I think it was the latter, personally. He was under pressure and throwing off platform, which isn't his strength. Situationally, game-wise, weather-wise, pressure-wise, I am going to guess in film review, flipping that to #4 is what is taught. JMO.
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All that said, I respect it. Circumstances do a play a part in all of this. I agree. Although I highly doubt Dawson would correct to that. Hes quite aggressive in his concepts and loves attacking deep to intermediate
 
I don't completely disagree with the thread, I'm worried too

But there were 3 big misses against Florida

1. Beginning of game, TE wide open but Florida DL knocked it down

2. Daniels drops a good throw for 15ish yards over the middle

3. Bauman out on the edge blocking for no reason. Straight up looked like a glitch in NCAA 2025....no idea wtf he was doing
 
Canezum5 said:
Every time I criticize this guy I get fans on here coming at my neck. Yet, film doesn't lie.

Any team who plays DBs play very physical and they run 2 high safeties with alternate coverages from presnap to post snap put Dawson in a bind. He forces vertical routes into the strength of the defense instead of taking the underneath and short routes.

We could have WR screen, Tight End boot, and ran Florida off the **** field. Especially in less than favorable conditions for vertical passing. Yet, this man CONTINUES TO run intermediate to deep route concepts.

It is very hard for a QB to make it through 2 reads, let alone 3 and make an accurate check down. Most QBs in all of football just cant do that **** and let's be honest, NO ONE wants to get hit while standing back there so mechanics disappear.

Dawson should have helped his QB by making the first read in his calls a shorter route to his best route runner.

All Florida did was employ the strategy Georgia Tech uses. Notice a pattern? No matter the QB they struggle and the offense stagnates.

When teams use this strategy we have to use the TEs, backs, and attack the flats and keep the ******* chains moving.
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No coach is above reproach. It’s ok to criticize some aspects of coaches, even if you believe they’re doing a good job otherwise. There’s a contingent of people here who think any criticism of a coach means you think he sucks. There’s also a contingent that plays the result and as long as we won the game, they feel nothing needs to be improved upon. There’s always thing we could be doing better and our coaches know this.
 
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