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zanecane said:
I would have preferred he go after someone with experience in the 2017 class to go along with Perry. We needed someone to push Malik and two freshman weren't going to do it.

Stidham for Auburn would have obviously been choice number 1 but I haven't taken the time to see who else was available.

I guess what I'm really wondering is at what point do we start questioning the QB coaches and not the QB's? Because it's not Malik Rosiers fault Richt is going into Year 3 and still hasn't found/groomed someone to take over. But it's still only year 3, so maybe it's not realistic to think that these QB issues would be fixed yet?
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Allison did not transfer until late April. If I remember correctly it seemed like a surprise to everyone even the coaches. So it was probably hoped that Allison would have taken the job last year with one year in college and in the system. So this is well after the class was done.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
You know what, I’m ready to just let this go.

I’ll admit I’m one sorry ******* son of a bltch.

I’m a prick and a hateful *******.

I’ve been called much worse, believe me. That’s the truth.

I’m an arrogant, condescending know-it-all...pretty much 24/7. I have no self delusions.

Now, are we good?
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All good man. I'm too arrogant to list my bad qualities, but hatchet is buried.
 
zanecane said:
So he has had the QBs he was hoping to take over. Not sure what would prompt him to go after someone else unless they were a really special talent worth upsetting that. Maybe they went after Eason, or maybe they didn't? I guess the question would be what transfer out there would you have wanted them to go after? Will that transfer be able to play this year?
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I would have preferred he go after someone with experience in the 2017 class to go along with Perry. We needed someone to push Malik and two freshman weren't going to do it.

Stidham for Auburn would have obviously been choice number 1 but I haven't taken the time to see who else was available.

I guess what I'm really wondering is at what point do we start questioning the QB coaches and not the QB's? Because it's not Malik Rosiers fault Richt is going into Year 3 and still hasn't found/groomed someone to take over. But it's still only year 3, so maybe it's not realistic to think that these QB issues would be fixed yet?[/QUOTE]

Its only unrealistic in the minds of slurpers.
 
404CANES said:
Bullsh1t...you watched the games last year just like the rest of us(or maybe you didn't)...he was responsible for 60%, CMR 30% and 10% others of 3rd down failures. Dorsey kept the chains moving and put points on the board inspite of the comp % given.
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So now you know exactly who was at fault at all times? Who are you on the staff again?

And ****, Dorsey was single handedly responsible for all 3rd down conversions huh? I thought he was good, but **** since I know now he was the sole reason we kept the chains moving and scoring, not all that 1st round talent around him, dude should be annointed the best to ever play QB at the collegiate level hands down.
 
I wonder how many times I have to post Rosiers stats from our five most important games of the season before people will stop wanting him to be our starter over one of the 3 freshman.
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https://gyazo.com/9dfb3282694291b77c124fb52633cab1

*orange is what he averaged those 5 games, green is what the rest of the acc qbs, not including him, did on the season.....and this yr was an overall weak yr of qb play too
 
I think it will be a platoon in the LSU game and Jarren Williams is the guy that gives us the spark and he takes the job. That’s just my opinion on it.
 
NasaCane said:
You realize it’s very possible that Malik sucks as a QB and Richt sucks as an OC....right?

Y’all are acting like we set the world on fire with Kaaya.

He was infinitely better than Rosier and our offense was still pretty bland....with major stretches of inactivity in almost all games.
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The second half of Kaaya’s only season under CMR we did set the world on fire offensively.
 
As long as I’m not having to deal with happy drunk LSU fans after the game, I don’t care who’s taking snaps, TBH.

Do not want the sad plane ride home.
 
calinative umstudent said:
I wonder how many times I have to post Rosiers stats from our five most important games of the season before people will stop wanting him to be our starter over one of the 3 freshman.
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https://gyazo.com/9dfb3282694291b77c124fb52633cab1

*orange is what he averaged those 5 games, green is what the rest of the acc qbs, not including him, did on the season.....and this yr was an overall weak yr of qb play too
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So the green is what they did "on the season", or in "ACC games" ?

Either way his numbers stink
 
OkieCane said:
Yes sir, we will tailgate then go in
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Have you been to a game there before.

How are the 200 vs 100 section in terms of view if you’ve had a chance to sit in both and compare. I’m asking in terms of distance from field if you can recall. Assuming you’ve been.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Have you been to a game there before.

How are the 200 vs 100 section in terms of view if you’ve had a chance to sit in both and compare. I’m asking in terms of distance from field if you can recall. Assuming you’ve been.
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The 100s are definitely closer but for viewing the game and seeing the entire field I actually prefer the 200 level. When we go to HS games there and have carte blanche, we sit near the front of the 200s. I'm also the guy who sits in the top row of the bleachers at HS stadiums though, so your mileage may vary.
 
DTP said:
Look, we can take statistics completely out of the discussion and go purely based on what happened on the field. From the very first game, the recipe for stopping the Miami offense was to load up to stop the run and make Rosier beat you against man coverage. The only team who didn't try to use this tactic was Notre Dame and everybody saw Miami just run the ball down their throat. When EVERY opponent on your schedule blatantly disregards your QB's ability to complete passes down field, it should be a huge red flag. Now, they didn't really have much of a choice last year so they just rode with what they had but I'm not willing to concede that they'll have to do the same thing again this year after one spring scrimmage.
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Rarely do I disagree with you, but I just can’t go along with this idea that we couldn’t run the ball because the QB play was so horrible that teams didn’t have to account for our passing game.

Ken Dorsey won our last NC by scoring 23 TDs on 2,600 yards with a 56% completion rate.

The idea that we couldn’t run the ball because Rosier only accounted for 3,605 yards from scrimmage and 31 TDs with s 54% completion rate is just not accurate. There might, MIGHT have been 10 guys on that 2017 squad that would have seen any meaningful snaps on the 2001 team. Every member of the starting defense and most of the 2-deep were drafted into the NFL, and quite a few have gone on to have Hall of Fame careers. 4 of the 5 o-linemen were drafted. Mark Walton and Travis Homer would have been 4th and 5th string options, and our #1 receiver, Berrios would have not even gotten an offer.

The 2017 team didn’t achieve what the 2001 team did because they weren’t even close to being on the level of a championship caliber team. They went 10-3 in spite of a lot of shortcomings, not just Rosier’s.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Have you been to a game there before.

How are the 200 vs 100 section in terms of view if you’ve had a chance to sit in both and compare. I’m asking in terms of distance from field if you can recall. Assuming you’ve been.
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The place is huge, but if the price different is more than 100 more for 100s I would sit in the 200s. Also drink all you can (if you drink) before you go in, 9 dollar keg beers suck.

Just saw Swaggers post, he made a good point that front 200s are good value
 
calinative umstudent said:
I wonder how many times I have to post Rosiers stats from our five most important games of the season before people will stop wanting him to be our starter over one of the 3 freshman.
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https://gyazo.com/9dfb3282694291b77c124fb52633cab1

*orange is what he averaged those 5 games, green is what the rest of the acc qbs, not including him, did on the season.....and this yr was an overall weak yr of qb play too
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How's about one of the other guys does something to earn some praise...that would be a start at least.
 
LPK2006 said:
Also, how many crossing routes did we actually try to run, but Rosier ended up having the pass batted down by a defensive lineman? I don't have any idea of a ballpark figure on this, but from what I remember of last season, it's possible that number could be pretty high.
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Most batted down passes were on rosier man there were times where had plenty of time in the pocket and just got batted down by poor release
 
QuatroCane said:
How's about one of the other guys does something to earn some praise...that would be a start at least.
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If Rosier doesn't win the starting QB job as a redshirt senior, why on earth should he be named the starting qb?
Like I really just don't get why anyone would prefer Rosier over one of the freshman.

Rosier is maxed out....do you agree? He has just about no room left for improvement. He's just simply an inaccurate Qb.

The freshman have a great chance at improving as the season goes on....do you agree? If the freshman starts, he will have 4 weeks as a warm up before we get to ACC play. In the grand scheme of things, the LSU game doesn't matter all that much for what our overall goals are.

Starting one of the freshman is extremely beneficial to us for the future as well.....do you agree? We're going to have to break in a new qb this yr or next yr. If we do it this yr, we have the 4 warm up games, and by next season we could be in a great situation. At least we'd know if that qb is the guy or not. Essentially another yr of Rosier is pointless stagnation.

Like I've said, any tie should go to one of the freshman. Rosier would have to VASTLY outperform the freshman in summer camp for my opinion to change on this.
 
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