Scrimmage #2 8/22

[24/7canes]

I'm not sure we're better or worse with Greg, but if Phillips can stay healthy, he will absolutely terrorize opponents and will definitely be our next big star. Athletically, he eats Greg's lunch, and he's got a motor that doesn't stop. That combo of traits will be unstoppable.

No Greg means more reps for Phillips, and I don't think we skip a beat with Phillips out there.

I know it's hard for Canes fans so starved for great players again to believe, but it's absolutely possible to replace great players with better players. Clemson has done it repeatedly. So does Baga. We used to do it all the time too.

100% true but for the depth purposes it stings. I think the two dudes arguing their points are both correct, they just are presenting different arguments.

 

[aleahy]

Exactly my point I made earlier. People find it hard to believe we can replace gr15 with someone as talented, or gasp, even more talented athletically

I’ve said before that I think because Phillips didn’t sign here out of HS and hasn’t played in a couple years, that most of our fans don’t realize how talented he is. There were a number of people who thought he was the #1 recruit in the country in 2017. He’s the most touted prospect to come to Miami since Seantrel Henderson over 10 years ago.

Of course I’d prefer to also have Rousseau on the team, but I’m pretty excited to see Phillips.

 

[Baba Yaga]

Quarterback Tyler Van Dyke was 5-of-6 for 205 yards with a touchdown and an interception.

I'd love more context to go with his stats, but unless the receiver's are taking bubble screens for 30-40 yards each time those are encouraging numbers for a true frosh.

 

[The Real Kirk Lazarus]

I’ve said before that I think because Phillips didn’t sign here out of HS and hasn’t played in a couple years, that most of our fans don’t realize how talented he is. There were a number of people who thought he was the #1 recruit in the country in 2017. He’s the most touted prospect to come to Miami since Seantrel Henderson over 10 years ago.

Of course I’d prefer to also have Rousseau on the team, but I’m pretty excited to see Phillips.

We all would like greg out there, but to think there is o possible way of replacing him is ridiculous. Our dline talent is insane. Seeing them up close twice now in the scrimmages has convinced me gr15 will not be missed at all. We can revisit that later but from what I've seen I stand by what I've said

 

[24/7canes]

No. Stop it - we are not better without Rousseau.

You guys sound like those people during The Big 3 Era who claimed the Heat were better when Wade wasn't on the floor.

I don't think he's saying we're better, he's saying that you can replace a great player with one even more talented. Pretty sure everyone agrees we were better depth wise with Greg on the squad. The way im reading it I think some are projecting that Phillips may have a bigger impact because hes a more gifted athlete. Thats how I'm reading some of these comments.

 

[bdcane4eva]

leave it to CIS to argue for 20 pages in a SCRIMMAGE thread about a guy who isn't even on the team...

 

[Cribby]

Do you think Ford is better than Nesta? What's your assessment of them and how you expect each one to perform this season?

Last year he was decidedly better. Nesta was never right. I still expect Ford to be the best guy inside but nesta should be a lot better. Don’t sleep on Miller , he keeps getting better.

 

[Bunker Mentality]

Exhibit A of mfckers with weak reading comprehension chiming in. I didn’t say this defense as a whole will be better without GR15. I said schematically the defensive line can perhaps Gel better without GR15, considering when all play to their strengths. Meaning multiple players with 10+ sacks, instead of the core focus being on one player with double digit sacks. Each bring something different to the table. But let CIS troll for few likes and giggles.

 

[Go Canes!!]

I don't think he's saying we're better, he's saying that you can replace a great player with one even more talented. Pretty sure everyone agrees we were better depth wise with Greg on the squad. The way im reading it I think some are projecting that Phillips may have a bigger impact because hes a more gifted athlete. Thats how I'm reading some of these comments.

GR had 15 sacks over the last 6-7 games. Phillips hasn't played 15 plays in nearly two years.

There really is no argument that doesn't require a reach of epic proportions.

 

[Canes Legacy]

Last year he was decidedly better. Nesta was never right. I still expect Ford to be the best guy inside but nesta should be a lot better. Don’t sleep on Miller , he keeps getting better.

Miller is the guy I’m most excited to see on the defense. He has the size and athletic ability to be a really, really good player. Not saying that he puts it all together this season but if/when he does, that’s an All ACC type DT.

 

[blushrts]

Im surprised no one has brought this up yet, did you notice how Manny changed masks this time so he didn’t have to keep pulling it back up? That’s the type of adjustments we need. 15-0.

I will give CMD this, he doesn't bang his head against the wall doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. I was expecting a lot of "we just need to execute better" and Anos still being around this fall.

 

[24/7canes]

GR had 15 sacks over the last 6-7 games. Phillips hasn't played 15 plays in two years.

There really is no argument that doesn't require a reach of epic proportions.

Im not on the were better with out GR15 on the team. I was only pointing out what some one else was stating. I think it got misinterpreted. But ****t I might have misinterpreted it as well. Im actually ****ed hes not coming back. If Phillips is a nasty as some are saying, how sick would it have been to see him and Gr15 at the same time coming off the edges.

 

[SouthsideAtl]

Guys Greg is gone let‘s move on from that subject ..focus on who’s playing for us sheesh

 

[Warrior808]

I think we are fine in base D with what we have, we will miss GR15 in the nascar package though. He was fantastic at rushing the passer from the middle of that alignment, not every end can slide inside like that. Phillips, GR15 and Roche would have been almost unfair.

Still a nice unit though, should be around the top of the conference.

 

[Mackmiller974]

Here we go again. Carousel on Oline.

I wouldn't say carousel, its still fall camp so they are trying to find the 5 best OL

 

[ThomasM]

Without knowing the scrimmage situation, TVD went 5-6 for 200 plus. YES!! Attack teams vertically. Enos ran so many bubble screens we should wait until we play bama to run another.

Those are video game numbers. Jeez.

 

[ThomasM]

Miller is the guy I’m most excited to see on the defense. He has the size and athletic ability to be a really, really good player. Not saying that he puts it all together this season but if/when he does, that’s an All ACC type DT.

Key is getting him to play more than 5 snaps a game. Every time he was in there last year he was mauling whatever was in front of him. It's been a while since I saw a UM DT that looked like a wrecking ball shot out of a cannon.

 

[Deleted member 26015]

Nesta is a really efficient pass rusher and thats where his strength is. He needs to stay on the field tho.

 

[jkaz1]

You are reaching very hard buddy. Just give up. You made a ridiculous post and got called on it. No need to die on that hill.

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

GR had 15 sacks over the last 6-7 games. Phillips hasn't played 15 plays in nearly two years.

There really is no argument that doesn't require a reach of epic proportions.

This team is not better off with GR15 opting out. He's a freak.

That said, GR15 last summer was a dude coming off I jury who had flashed in practice and very limited game time. Very similar to where Phillips is this summer, only with less recruiting pedigree. No reason to believe Phillips can't show out this year and make a real impact.