SB Nation breakdown on this year's team

[Morey161]

That site is a ******* joke and filled with idiots.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

Ah, finally a poster with a clear eye on the future. Of course, the haters and doomsday crowd will vilify our friends. But here's the deal, folks should list the projected won-loss record, put their name to it and then let's hold everyone accountable next Dec-Jan.

This time next year we should all be rejoicing in a new coaching staff.

This time next year we will be looking back on a 9-3 season and a bowl win and a lot of us will be eating crow.

Not to spoil your ringing statement, but people have been doing that since the South Carolina game wrapped up. The overwhelming majority of people are projecting another flake season. What drugs do you sniff that say otherwise?

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

The man said Golden was doing a decent job and he had charts and $hi+ to back it up.

Yeah he had everything to back up his statement other than a truly successful wins-losses chart. Give me a break.

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

Ah, finally a poster with a clear eye on the future. Of course, the haters and doomsday crowd will vilify our friends. But here's the deal, folks should list the projected won-loss record, put their name to it and then let's hold everyone accountable next Dec-Jan.

This time next year we should all be rejoicing in a new coaching staff.

This time next year we will be looking back on a 9-3 season and a bowl win and a lot of us will be eating crow.

Yeah, because we have never done the prediction thread thing over the past decade either. We didn't do it last year, for instance.

The "haters" and "doomsday crowd" haven't been making predictions every year. They haven't been proven right for over a decade.

 

[Canesfan1899]

Look, seriously I'm really tired of the excuses AND passes Golden continues to get. I don't care if he's well spoken and he uses fluff phrases and terms to evade questions. Let's talk facts and stop giving this guy undue credit.

Fact: He dealt with a tricky situation; he took over a team a that was in shambles and the Nevin Shapiro scandal was not a good look for the University.

Fiction: The cloud is the reason behind Golden's continued failure here.

Here's why:

In 2011, he took over a defense that, in the previous year, had allowed approx. 4.81 ypp (yards per play) and 323.3 ypg under an embattled Randy Shannon. Most of the players from that defense was still on the team and were not suspended due to the Shapiro Scandal. As soon as Golden and his staff took over the defense, the avg. increased to 5.48 ypp and 359.9 ypg. The excuse: players adjusting to a new scheme.

In 2012, Golden had his best recruiting class DESPITE the proverbial cloud. As a matter of fact, most of that class came from our own back yard. It was one of the best classes in the nation (top 10). Yet that same year, the defense gave up 6.11 ypp and 486.4 ypg (worst in program history). The excuse: team too young, not having enough depth.

In 2013, Golden pulled in another solid class, top 15 in the nation. Again, the cloud did not hinder a top flight class. The defense again gave up an abysmal 5.75 ypp and 426.4 ypg (this after starting the season 7-0 and finishing 2-4 down the stretch) The excuse: depth (although Golden said this was his deepest team thus far)

In 2014, again Golden pulled in a decent class...top 20 (as you can see, there's a trend that's now been developed regarding our class rankings. Each year, the further we get away from the cloud, the worst the classes have become...I wonder why).
The defense improved tremendously by allowing only 4.79ypp and 329.6ypg. HOWEVER, most of their numbers were based against a pedestrian schedule.
*The true numbers showed that we actually gave up 5.71 ypp and 376.6 ypg against the tougher part of our schedule while only giving up 3.81ypp and 274.8 ypg against FCS and lower tier FBS schools. Hence that is why our "total defense" looked good on paper.* The excuse: Wind, Night Games, Cliques

The fact of the matter is Golden's recruiting appears to have been better under the cloud. Maybe it's b/c kids were still hopeful and they bought into Golden's ideas...but the on-field production has been his biggest detriment. To compare us to Mizzou and USCe is laughable at best...shame on the author of that article for even mentioning them as a comparison.

You take Nick Saban, Urban Meyers, Gus Malzhan, Jimbo Fisher, Les Miles and you give them the rosters that Golden has had since 2011 w/ or w/o the cloud, and I guarantee we would see at least one title game appearance and a handful of BCS bowl game appearances.

The fact is Golden has been out coached since his days at Temple. He beat teams who were classified as FCS schools and lower tier FBS schools, but whenever he's faced teams with good records or who began and finished in the top 25, he's a sub .400 coach. That's just his moniker. So no, we may not be as talented as the 2001-2003 Canes, but we dang sure have the talent to win at least 10 games w/ our scheduling.

He's just not a good coach, no matter how he and the media try to spin his problem. We're 4 years removed from the cloud yet it's still hovering over the program. The cloud is Golden, and the moment that everyone realizes this, the better off we will be. The only progress we've made is that he's that much closer to being fired.

****, hard to argue against those numbers.

 

[HulkaCaniac]

To me it's not a question about having a "losing season" in terms of wins and losses. I don't think we'll go 6-7, 5-7, 4-8. Those are indeed losing seasons, but to me so is an 8-4 season. In year 5 we should be winning the Coastal, and pushing 10 wins. Another mediocre season is a losing season, and 8-4 is just that.

I think you have the number of seasons incorrect. This is really Al Golden's second season. If they pull an 8-4, win their bowl game, and finish strong with a great Swag 16 class, you can mark this down as a successful season.

Mods start cracking down on these trolls

What is there to troll about? I'm just dropping knowledge in this thread. But let's get ready to watch the canes in the acccg.

Please tell me how simply stating that golden is going to go 8-4 is "dropping knowledge"

If you want some knowledge then go rewatch the fsu game, and tell me that a coach who is too scared to step on another team's neck is going to win 2 more games while losing almost 3/4 of his offense and still fielding the most ***** made defensive scheme in miami history..Enjoy that fraudulent salary that the hubby is making, kelly

I don't see how the FSU from last season is a testament to this coming season. We could have looked at how the team performed in 98 and tell ourselves in 99 that the team is never going to turn the corner.

But back to the point, Al has come a long way as a coach. No longer is he the fresh faced coach from Temple. Dude has put on his hard hat and no longer had the cloud looking at him. Al is going to shock the world and you will be eating out of his hand after Miami beats FSU.

 

[sebastian91]

No ***** given about any of it. These stupid graphs are just as stupid at Vish's stupid graphs. It's past time to win games for a change. Do it, or GTFOOTW and let someone else do it.