Samuel Brooks: This years DJ Ivey?

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It’s all about the injury. If he didn’t get hurt, he would’ve been a five-star.

Elite production on a state championship defense and elite testing numbers as a HS sophomore (6’2, 194, 4.62, 4.20 shuttle, 36 VJ). He was dominating Carol City before blowing out his knee.

The bad news is that it was an ugly injury. The good news is that young players heal faster. Hopefully, Northwestern plays it conservatively and Brooks comes into college at full speed.

If he does, you are talking about a future 6’2, 235, 4.5 linebacker with quickness and instincts.
Don’t know if he’s a 5 star but definitely should be top 150 or so
 
Possibly
Many are skeptical and I understand why. We haven’t had the best history with the HS rusher types that translate to LB but none of them had the physical ability of the kid. Marcus Robinson was similar attribute wise but he was a bit bigger and actually ended up playing DE after some thought he would originally be an OLB. I like him more than most. I think he should shirt and pack on weight and learn the position first and then be unleashed in 2020.

I think Marcus Robinson would've been a more productive player in the right system, I.E. what Diaz is running right now.
 
Don’t know if he’s a 5 star but definitely should be top 150 or so

And yet he's ranked 670 nationally, #92 in Florida and the #48 OLB prospect. Hopefully, he's built like a lot of the South Florida guys before him and lets this be motivation.

I know he had a really bad injury but that ranking caught me off-guard.
 
We know he is an elite talent but a good thing for the kid is that he will have the opportunity to display his talent this season
 
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Bump him to low 4 star and keep him under the radar, we don't need these schools coming around, giving him offers a young can't refuse!! Garvin and JJ99 was overlooked coming out of HS and look how they turned out..

SoFla know what type of talent Brooks is so hopefully he stays under the radar and overlooked!! Let him dominate his last year and then he get that big bump closer the NSD!!
 
When I watch Brooks' tape, I don't at all see a prospect that is limited in his ability to being an edge rusher. I just see a guy who is elite at getting to the ball. So, putting him on the edge at the HS level is the way to maximize his disruptiveness.

I see him being able to play great in space at the LB position at the next level.



I don't see that at all. Watch the video. He's an angular athlete with stiff hips and no experience covering and tackling in space. Asking him to open his hips, backpedal, cover athletes in space and make open-field tackles is a recipe for disaster. He's an undersized edge rusher with the potential to be a Barkevious Mingo type. He's very underrated on the recruiting sites and very overrated on this board. The truth is usually somewhere in the middle.
 
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I think it is a very fair comparison. And with senior film holding less weight than junior sometimes, (Ivey DESTROYED comp last year to the point no one threw in his direction for long stretches, but still didn't get his deserved jump), he very well may stay somewhat dormant nationally.He could be an ambassador type IMO as well. Very well liked from what I have read.
Ya'll just gonna down vote and ain't got nothin to say? Then you don't matter.
 
It’s all about the injury. If he didn’t get hurt, he would’ve been a five-star.

Elite production on a state championship defense and elite testing numbers as a HS sophomore (6’2, 194, 4.62, 4.20 shuttle, 36 VJ). He was dominating Carol City before blowing out his knee.

The bad news is that it was an ugly injury. The good news is that young players heal faster. Hopefully, Northwestern plays it conservatively and Brooks comes into college at full speed.

If he does, you are talking about a future 6’2, 235, 4.5 linebacker with quickness and instincts.
Nothing specific. He said he will be ready for his senior season but I hope he doesn't push it. It took Mike Smith a long time to get back.

Spoke to my friend. They said that he is bigger and stronger since the surgery, and that he has been rehabbing with the one of the best guys in Miami and will be 100% for the season. also says the kid is extremely impressive and hungry. And that they know the knee is fine, there are no concerns from the trainer or therapists
 
My Sam Brooks story! I was watching the Carol City game an he was dominating i kept hearing his name an he pretty much had takin that game over. I was like omg who is this kid we need to recruit him an then they said he was commited to Miami or something an i was so excited an then the injury was heart breaking!!! I cant wait to see this kid play! Probably my favorite recruit for Surge19! Hope he comes back healthy and has no more knee issues kid will be a guaranteed 1st round pick rushing the passer!!!!!
 
My Sam Brooks story! I was watching the Carol City game an he was dominating i kept hearing his name an he pretty much had takin that game over. I was like omg who is this kid we need to recruit him an then they said he was commited to Miami or something an i was so excited an then the injury was heart breaking!!! I cant wait to see this kid play! Probably my favorite recruit for Surge19! Hope he comes back healthy and has no more knee issues kid will be a guaranteed 1st round pick rushing the passer!!!!!
He committed to Miami after he was injured. Don’t lie to us bro
 
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Does anyone have any tape of him playing linebacker? Our fanbase (not helped by posts like the one below) have this ongoing assumption that anyone who is not prototype DE size will automatically pick up linebacker skills and excel here.
It’s all about the injury. If he didn’t get hurt, he would’ve been a five-star.

Elite production on a state championship defense and elite testing numbers as a HS sophomore (6’2, 194, 4.62, 4.20 shuttle, 36 VJ). He was dominating Carol City before blowing out his knee.

The bad news is that it was an ugly injury. The good news is that young players heal faster. Hopefully, Northwestern plays it conservatively and Brooks comes into college at full speed.

If he does, you are talking about a future 6’2, 235, 4.5 linebacker with quickness and instincts.
You are smoking that good stuff again if you think a kid that ran a 4.62 pre terrible injury is adding 40 pounds then going out and running a 4.5. This kid probably does add that weight, and probably ends up as a pass rushing specialist that runs a 4.7x at the combine.
 


I don't see that at all. Watch the video. He's an angular athlete with stiff hips and no experience covering and tackling in space. Asking him to open his hips, backpedal, cover athletes in space and make open-field tackles is a recipe for disaster. He's an undersized edge rusher with the potential to be a Barkevious Mingo type. He's very underrated on the recruiting sites and very overrated on this board. The truth is usually somewhere in the middle.



I thought you were gonna chime in on this because I recall you having this stance on Brooks.

I've seen the above vid, and it actually is part of what informs my take. I see why you have concern but I don't share the same level of concern with you here. I saw that stiffness with Mike Smith. I can't recall where I stood on Marcus Robinson coming out. I don't see it with Brooks. When I watch his tape, I see a guy who is playing a limited role because it maximizes how disruptive he can be at the HS level. I think he has the physical traits and naturally ball-seeking ability to translate to a more traditional LB role.

There are a lot of plays in his tape where he is making athletic plays in space and closing on the ballcarrier (they may not necessarily be dropping into coverage, but I think it still translates). Some of this is projection into a little bit of unknown, because unfortunately we don't have the tape of him at LB to judge and evaluate.

Also, the Sophomore testing numbers are nothing but encouraging.

36 inch vert = explosive
4.2 Shuttle = Mobile/Agile
4.6 40 = Fast

I'm excited about Brooks and think he really has a chance to be great. I'm gonna stop short on making a comparison on my mind, because that might be me going full homer.
 
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Does anyone have any tape of him playing linebacker? Our fanbase (not helped by posts like the one below) have this ongoing assumption that anyone who is not prototype DE size will automatically pick up linebacker skills and excel here.

You are smoking that good stuff again if you think a kid that ran a 4.62 pre terrible injury is adding 40 pounds then going out and running a 4.5. This kid probably does add that weight, and probably ends up as a pass rushing specialist that runs a 4.7x at the combine.

So you think your assertion that a kid who runs a 4.62 at the age of 16 and then gets subsequently injured at the age of 16 will not be able to advance his speed and build despite natural growth, improved nutrition, and advanced college level training over the next 5-6 years is any more sound?
 
So you think your assertion that a kid who runs a 4.62 at the age of 16 and then gets subsequently injured at the age of 16 will not be able to advance his speed and build despite natural growth, improved nutrition, and advanced college level training over the next 5-6 years is any more sound?
There is no question. That take by D money was wishful homerism. Re read what he posted, it is preposterous.

edit/ now that I see what you have posted in this thread, just disregard this isn't going anywhere.
 
There is no question. That take by D money was wishful homerism. Re read what he posted, it is preposterous.

Why don't you read it? Here, I'll post it for you:

Hopefully, Northwestern plays it conservatively and Brooks comes into college at full speed.

If he does, you are talking about a future 6’2, 235, 4.5 linebacker with quickness and instincts.

In other words, IF he gets to full speed after the injury, he projects as a 6'2, 235 linebacker running 4.5.

That's just basic. He was running a 4.62 laser as a HS sophomore. That projects as an easy 4.5 with training.

Anyone who tracks HS combine numbers knows that guys generally gain weight and add speed at the next level. Bradley Chubb went from 6’2.5, 208, 4.83 as a HS junior to 6’4, 269, 4.65 at the combine. Rashaad Penny went from from 181 pounds and 4.68 in high school to 220 pounds and 4.46 at the combine.

It happens all the time. And Brooks isn't some kind of maxed-out meathead. He is just a standard, underdeveloped South Florida kid. That's what makes his Opening numbers so freakish.
 
And yet he's ranked 670 nationally, #92 in Florida and the #48 OLB prospect. Hopefully, he's built like a lot of the South Florida guys before him and lets this be motivation.

I know he had a really bad injury but that ranking caught me off-guard.

No worries about the dog in this kid he's an animal, let him stay underrated he's gonna be taking heads off soon enough.
 
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