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Saltycane said:
I keep hearing that MC learned the Saban formula and will turn this program around. So Other than Kirby what disciple has turned a program around? And what makes MC so special that he will figure it out where other haven’t?
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Well mister salt

-Mark Dantonio was a former protege who did a very good job at MSU; Jimbo did turn around a lackluster FSU despite culture issues at the end of his tenure; Kiffin has turned around Ole Miss and credits Saban for resurrecting his coaching career. That’s pretty good in my eyes.
- MC did turn Oregon around into a very good program again. Plus has played, been an assistant here before, and is known as a phenomenal recruiter.

Thanks,
Ms. Sugar
 
Saltycane said:
I keep hearing that MC learned the Saban formula and will turn this program around. So Other than Kirby what disciple has turned a program around? And what makes MC so special that he will figure it out where other haven’t?
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I’m not big on him but Mel Tucker is one.
Sark could be come successful with Texas’ current trajectory.
 
I wouldn’t really call Kiffin a Saban disciple. He had been hired and fired from a couple of big time gigs before working for Saban. I’m pretty sure being around Saban taught him how to properly run a big program, tho.
 
gacaneaddict said:
Well because he won multiple conference championships, NY6 bowl, and signed best recruiting classes in Oregons history. So, he has proven himself at this level as a HC.

Is he perfect? No. Is he a top 10
Coach nationally, No. He can still win big here
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According to win percentage as a P5 coach he is top 10.
 
Saltycane said:
I keep hearing that MC learned the Saban formula and will turn this program around. So Other than Kirby what disciple has turned a program around? And what makes MC so special that he will figure it out where other haven’t?
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Cuckbo Fisher.

Lane THE TRAIN Kiffin*.

There are several superstar head coaches whose proteges go full corch when they themselves take the the left seat.

*obligatory who would KILL IT at Hecht
 
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Saltycane said:
I keep hearing that MC learned the Saban formula and will turn this program around. So Other than Kirby what disciple has turned a program around? And what makes MC so special that he will figure it out where other haven’t?
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No....Mario learned the Butch formula...and to be perfectly honest, so did Saban. There's a reason why Saban called Butch in the Mid 90s as a young HC at MSU...and asked him if he could come to UM for pointers and watch practices. He could have asked a number of other highly successful coaches...but he didn't.
 
I think he needs to win atleast 7 or 8 and I will hold out judgement for what the recruiting class looks like. If recruiting is what your known for you have to come through.
 
UrineDaloop said:
Well mister salt

-Mark Dantonio was a former protege who did a very good job at MSU; Jimbo did turn around a lackluster FSU despite culture issues at the end of his tenure; Kiffin has turned around Ole Miss and credits Saban for resurrecting his coaching career. That’s pretty good in my eyes.
- MC did turn Oregon around into a very good program again. Plus has played, been an assistant here before, and is known as a phenomenal recruiter.

Thanks,
Ms. Sugar
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Disagree with that. By the time Jimbo left, that lockeroom was a toxic mess.
 
KANE said:
I wouldn’t really call Kiffin a Saban disciple. He had been hired and fired from a couple of big time gigs before working for Saban. I’m pretty sure being around Saban taught him how to properly run a big program, tho.
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apples & oranges

Kiffin gives him credit
 
UrineDaloop said:
Well mister salt

-Mark Dantonio was a former protege who did a very good job at MSU; Jimbo did turn around a lackluster FSU despite culture issues at the end of his tenure; Kiffin has turned around Ole Miss and credits Saban for resurrecting his coaching career. That’s pretty good in my eyes.
- MC did turn Oregon around into a very good program again. Plus has played, been an assistant here before, and is known as a phenomenal recruiter.

Thanks,
Ms. Sugar
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This is the best answer.

Every other Saban disciple went to PROGRAMS that were already in place.

You think Kirby or Jumbo go to Nebraska for example (or Miami for that matter), and have the same results that they did at UGA and FSU? You see what Jumbo is doing at aTm, dontcha?

Saban is cut from a different breed. He could coach every position on the field at an elite level and rarely misses on his evaluations.
 
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Saltycane said:
I keep hearing that MC learned the Saban formula and will turn this program around. So Other than Kirby what disciple has turned a program around? And what makes MC so special that he will figure it out where other haven’t?
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Mario learned from Saban yes. Mario has said repeatedly he will use the Miami blue print. Its going to take a roster make over no matter what blue print is used. Sarkisian might be getting Texas turned around.
 
Is Mario really a Saban disciple? I’m sure he learned a lot there but I don’t classify someone who had 14 years of coaching experience and a head coaching job before arriving in Alabama as a disciple.
 
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