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Ruiz potentially suing the NCAA….

RVACane said:
No, what’s unwarranted is ****heads on here insulting and going after the guy funding our NIL. He didn’t do a god**** thing wrong. Stop blaming him and not the NCAA. Meier reached out to him and the NCAA gave us a year probation for that.
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Except that’s not what the NCAA is saying happened.


“The NCAA said Meier exchanged text messages with Ruiz saying that she would make sure the Cavinder twins knew who he was after HE tried to arrange a meeting with them before their official visit to campus last summer.”
 
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Cane4Life94 said:
Except that’s not what the NCAA is saying happened.


“The NCAA said Meier exchanged text messages with Ruiz saying that she would make sure the Cavinder twins knew who he was after HE tried to arrange a meeting with them before their official visit to campus last summer.”
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He’s a business man. He’s allowed to sponsor athletes which involves contacting them. He sponsors athletes at other schools as well. Meier reached out to him and made the contact and that’s the issue that got UM.

The rest of it is bull**** and no different than anyone else. In fact these others running collectives with no business but pay for play aren’t even pretending to be legit NIL.
 
Do some of you really think that if we had a hypothetical deaf mute NIL sponsor in place of Ruiz, who never said a word, and we landed Mauigoa and Samson and Bain and Bryant the same way over Bama and their brethren, that the NCAA would be cool with that and us and they’d let it slide??? Do you remember Saban crying about Miami or was this past recruiting season too long ago???

Like they’d see this type of stuff which is normal with every recruit and no biggie, good job Hurricanes???

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Empirical Cane said:
Careful you mope. Powerful porsters have issued edict..this is a nothing burger.

Tighten your **** up.
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Someone needs to find a way to get the issue of booster and NIL sponsor in a court. It’s totally possible to be both and act in separate capacities IMO and the NCAA certainly shouldn’t be able to impact the NIL business by claiming “booster” and thereby scaring off athletes from doing NIL business as the law allows.
 
RVACane said:
Someone needs to find a way to get the issue of booster and NIL sponsor in a court. It’s totally possible to be both and act in separate capacities IMO and the NCAA certainly shouldn’t be able to impact the NIL business by claiming “booster” and thereby scaring off athletes from doing NIL business as the law allows.
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I believe that was Ruiz's point.
 
Empirical Cane said:
I believe that was Ruiz's point.
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Which is why a lawsuit is needed to create a working definition of booster and NIL sponsor so that going forward there will be better guidelines than currently provided by the NC2A. We can all agree that courts aren’t good at creating this sort of definition, but the NC2A is worse, much worse, and it likes vague language which makes it easier to say a violation was committed. The court also stops the NC2A from acting as the judge, jury, and appellate court of its own rule.
I really hope Ruiz files a lawsuit. He may not have much right now by way of damage but a judgment nonetheless against the NC2A would do wonders.
 
AtlAtty said:
Which is why a lawsuit is needed to create a working definition of booster and NIL sponsor so that going forward there will be better guidelines than currently provided by the NC2A. We can all agree that courts aren’t good at creating this sort of definition, but the NC2A is worse, much worse, and it likes vague language which makes it easier to say a violation was committed. The court also stops the NC2A from acting as the judge, jury, and appellate court of its own rule.
I really hope Ruiz files a lawsuit. He may not have much right now by way of damage but a judgment nonetheless against the NC2A would do wonders.
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I hear they are going to go ham on NCAA. TIFWIW.
 
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AtlAtty said:
Which is why a lawsuit is needed to create a working definition of booster and NIL sponsor so that going forward there will be better guidelines than currently provided by the NC2A. We can all agree that courts aren’t good at creating this sort of definition, but the NC2A is worse, much worse, and it likes vague language which makes it easier to say a violation was committed. The court also stops the NC2A from acting as the judge, jury, and appellate court of its own rule.
I really hope Ruiz files a lawsuit. He may not have much right now by way of damage but a judgment nonetheless against the NC2A would do wonders.
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Maybe Ruiz could argue that by being unfairly labeled a "booster" by the NCAA, it's caused athletes to avoid signing NIL contracts with him, and as a result it's harmed his business because he couldn't get top-tier talent to advertise. If he's talking to a UF player, the Gator might not want to get involved in a business deal with a "UM booster." And UM players may avoid signing with Lifewallet because they know the NCAA is keeping an eye on Ruiz and they don't want to deal with the headache. Damages would be speculative, but seems he'd just need one athlete to say he or she didn't sign with Lifewallet because the NCAA labeled Ruiz a booster to establish he's been harmed.
 
AlexCane said:
Correct. I don’t think he’s been damaged. He hasn’t lost a dime out of this. And I highly, highly doubt that there’s a single athlete that doesn’t want to accept his money out of some concern about some report dealing with women basketball players. Like anyone cares.
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I haven't seen the complaint; is he suing for defamation and asking for personal damages?

If the alleged wrongdoing by Mr. Ruiz was based on inaccurate information, or the
NCAA conflates "booster" with "NIL" to deliver sanctions against The []__[] his filing should have some merit, no?

At the very least the details of the NCAA investigation would be discoverable, and one could potentially find procedural flaws, compromised staff or bias toward a certain outcome.
 
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Pearson704 said:
I haven't seen the complaint; is he suing for defamation and asking for personal damages?

If the alleged wrongdoing by Mr. Ruiz was based on inaccurate information, or the
NCAA conflates "booster" with "NIL" to deliver sanctions against The []__[] his filing should have some merit, no?

At the very least the details of the NCAA investigation would be discoverable, and one could potentially find procedural flaws, compromised staff or bias toward a certain outcome.
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I don’t think he’s filed a complaint. He’s made some statements and there’s speculation and it took off in here.
 
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Ghurd8 said:
I know I'm late to this but thanks my dude. This is the stuff I been thinking since Ruiz came on the scene. I lurk cause I don't have the energy to engage. Everybody on here trying win some bs debate instead of just conversing like a normal person.

No one annoys me more than the guy that needs to be right, regardless of the situation. They'll be the one at the funeral telling the widow "see, I told him he was gonna die if he didn't change his ways."

Like Dan Lebatard talking about the emotional or "human" side of sports & condescending to his critics claiming he's trying to get people to think. NO man, we understand, we just don't give a ****.

People who use the word "rep" exhaust me. It's cringe as **** to care what people think about you that **** much.
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Yeah. I particularly want to validate the LeBatard stuff. For his entire life (and I knew him in undergrad, lived in the same dorm, took many of the same classes, worked with him on the school newspaper), he has put "Dan LeBatard" first and has not cared about how much damage he does to everyone else. From his very first suspension (at The Miami Hurricane school newspaper for printing Lou Holtz's home phone number) to the back-stabbing of his former friends (UM athletes on whom he ratted to try to get a better job beyond the 305 area code), Dan LeBatard has always rationalized his bad behavior and tried to convince everyone that they have the wrong opinion of him.

**** his later success on radio and TV. Doesn't change who he is or how he operates.
 
RVACane said:
So are you one of the entitled rat fink weasel “miami fans” calling Ruiz names, telling him to stfu as he funds our NIL game with millions as the NCAA ****s us yet again for bull**** while others like the gator skate free or are you one of the appreciative regular people here who simply prefer that our money and moves came in silence?
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It's worse than that. @CFLCane is one of those guys who acts (after the fact) like he knows exactly what should have been done, when, and how.

To use a sports analogy, there's a reason why you get 5 fouls in basketball (or 6 in the NBA). It's nearly impossible to play a full game without making some sort of incidental contact.

The NCAA investigated. The NCAA found exactly ONE problematic issue (in their minds). We all know that John Ruiz signed over 100 NIL athletes, when those athletes have limited timeframes for decision-making. And all of John Ruiz's actions took place during a period of MASSIVE laziness and hands-off inactivity by the NCAA, when they refused to provide guidance or do anything productive in setting guardrails.

But, yep, as per usual, you've the got the NCAA belatedly pulling a Heather Wilson "You knew!" mock outrage session, and you've got a bunch of Miami-haters (plus MFINOs, Miami Fans In Name Only) who are going to dance around acting like the guy who found a way to support BOTH athletes and the Miami program is some sort of nefarious person because a coach who he had not yet met (in a women's sport which has never treated women equal to the men and has rarely involved money in recruiting) acted in a friendly fashion.

Reminds me of the Chris Rock routine, when he reminds his audience how most people get jobs in this world. FRIENDS.

I realize Katie Meier needs to get a bit smarter in her use of texts, but it's the MFINOs who are here (as they always are) to tell us how Miami and Ruiz are to blame.
 
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