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Ruiz potentially suing the NCAA….

The U is back to work said:
I wish Ruiz would just focus on his business that allows him to fund all of this lol I don’t even know how he has time to litigate - he replies to everyone on Twitter and will continue replying until they just give up
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Either Ruiz is fully prepared or he's arrogant as ****..maybe he's both. Regardless he's completely loaded and I would hope that he has the best interest of the university.
 
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What limits are there to discovery? Can anything be discovered about their mishandling our previous investigations or overlooking violations at other schools?
 
rsa coral gables said:
the environment is different right now and Ruiz is fearless and an egomaniac so he'll do our dirty work.
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This x100.
It's a low risk proposition for UM. The investigation is done and tiny sanction imposed. Ruiz goes after them now, in this environment, and he may deliver more than just a black eye to the NCAA. And UM doesn't have to lift a finger.

I applaud and endorse this move.
 
JD08 said:
What limits are there to discovery? Can anything be discovered about their mishandling our previous investigations or overlooking violations at other schools?
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Discovery is pretty broad. Broader, even, than plain relevance. I could see the prior investigation within the bounds of discovery as arguably relevant to a claim of targetting UM. I could absolutely see investigations (or the lack thereof) into potential NIL violations at other schools being discoverable.

But it all depends on the complaint and allegations raised.
 
JD08 said:
What limits are there to discovery? Can anything be discovered about their mishandling our previous investigations or overlooking violations at other schools?
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no, that cannot be discovered unless he sues for a pattern of purposeful prosecution or similar theory
 
Maybe he wants to get the ncaa into a courtroom and nail down what exactly 'pay for play' means. His purpose of fighting this could simply be to show that collectives are against the rules. Collectives are probably his main competition and removing them makes him and Miami the big dog in NIL. The penalty has already been handed down and really isn't that bad. I don't think the penalty is what he's after. He's got bigger fish to fry.
 
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rsa coral gables said:
no, that cannot be discovered unless he sues for a pattern of purposeful prosecution or similar theory
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That will almost certainly be part of his theory of the case. That it's selective enforcement. At that point, and depending on what the complaint looks like, a good deal of that information is almost certainly discoverable.
 
mirvin88 said:
Not a fan of this simply because nobody is 100% clean
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But especially not the NCAA. Who seems to have disproportionately gone after Miami in this NIL world.

You see, that's the point. Nobody is 100% clean. So the NCAA shouldn't have gone after ANYONE. But, they came after UM and Ruiz (a legit businessman with actual endorsement/NIL deals and not some BS collective). So now what they did (or didn't do) elsewhere will be under scrutiny. I can't wait.
 
No_Fly_Zone said:
That will almost certainly be part of his theory of the case. That it's selective enforcement. At that point, and depending on what the complaint looks like, a good deal of that information is almost certainly discoverable.
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agreed, he could put an end to the ncaa, which IMO will be obsolete one day and conferences will set their own rules.

the amateur element is already gone and the divorce from education/academics is next. the future of the college sports looks more like club football in europe IMO, which isn't something i would like because 95% of players in all sports pursue other professional interests (straying from the main point)
 
I’m not sure what his claim is here. The definition of booster appears remarkably broad. I wouldn’t want to test that. I guess the only good news of going on the offensive is that he gets to pick the battleground, and Miami is certainly a more favorable venue than wherever the NCAA is located but I presume the NCAA would remove this to federal court immediately and limit John’s appeal with the local state court. Kind of strange to me but such is the news around him.
 
RVACane said:
**** every one of you ***** *** rats turning on one of our own in the face of ncaa aggression. **** you.
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I see it as NCAA is slumped over in the corner bleeding out, talking **** trying to get our attention and instead of just walking out of the room we are looking to engage yet again, giving them a potential miracle chance. It’s like in Kill Bill when home girl takes that *****’s other eye. She walks out and doesn’t engage her again as she is done for.

In the end Ruiz will do what he wants and yes I want him to move in silence but that just isn’t what he does. As you said, I do like Samson and Mauigoa on the squad and realize there is none of that with out Ruiz but that still doesn’t mean I won’t voice my opinion.
 
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rsa coral gables said:
agreed, he could put an end to the ncaa, which IMO will be obsolete one day and conferences will set their own rules.

the amateur element is already gone and the divorce from education/academics is next. the future of the college sports looks more like club football in europe IMO, which isn't something i would like because 95% of players in all sports pursue other professional interests (straying from the main point)
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I agree with you. On the one hand, I think it is the beginning of the end for money-earning college sports. On the other hand, I think this has been a long time coming and the NCAA's policies are largely to blame for its pending demise.
 
AlexCane said:
I’m not sure what his claim is here. The definition of booster appears remarkably broad. I wouldn’t want to test that. I guess the only good news of going on the offensive is that he gets to pick the battleground, and Miami is certainly a more favorable venue than wherever the NCAA is located but I presume the NCAA would remove this to federal court immediately and limit John’s appeal with the local state court. Kind of strange to me but such is the news around him.
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i think he needs to sue them wherever they are located, not miami. not sure how he achieves venue here unless he claims the damages occurred here??
 
AlexCane said:
I’m not sure what his claim is here. The definition of booster appears remarkably broad. I wouldn’t want to test that. I guess the only good news of going on the offensive is that he gets to pick the battleground, and Miami is certainly a more favorable venue than wherever the NCAA is located but I presume the NCAA would remove this to federal court immediately and limit John’s appeal with the local state court. Kind of strange to me but such is the news around him.
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That is, ultimately, a much bigger problem for the NCAA than it is for John Ruiz. If everyone is a booster, but only John and UM get pinched...
 
rsa coral gables said:
i think he needs to sue them wherever they are located, not miami. not sure how he achieves venue here unless he claims the damages occurred here??
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True. So I guess he has to argue the NCAA committed some tort here by virtue of the investigation it conducted here?
 
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