Rosier

[Loose Cannon]

He would have lost the job based on his performance last season as well as reported the same performance basically during the spring.(1) Was he horrible? At times yes. Did he put up good numbers? Yes, but we had a great team as you can see and have brought in more weapons offensively and new looks defensively. Therefore as I mentioned reports have been saying these young guns having been looking good and improving over time whereas Rosier has reached his ceiling basically.(2) So having him out there may just possibly be more of the same with those 50/50 chances of winning that we lucked out on last season and could go the other way this year. So why not try something new.(3) Both are known to be more accurate than Rosier.(4) They both also handle themselves well in the scrambling department.(5) If doesn't work, we just go back to the old dog with no new tricks.

1. He had the best Spring camp of the QBs according to the coaches, and ended up being what Richt referred to as the only guy capable of running our entire system.

2. What reports? What reports specifically? Perry completed less than 50% of his passes during spring scrimmages, and was chided over and over about being too quick to tuck and run from a clean pocket. Weldon sat out nearly the entire spring with pink-eye, and Williams just got here. Yes, he's been pretty accurate, but mostly in 7v7 stuff because we don't have enough bodies to fill out an entire 3rd team. Plus Richt says he doesn't really know what he's doing out there yet.

3. Because this is not a guessing game. You go with who gives you the best chance to win the next game. Not who can maybe gain a little experience and be the better QB next season or even the second half of this season. Coaches do not make these decisions on an, "oh well. Let's try this and see what happens," mentality. We're not paying Richt millions of dollars to guess. We're paying him to win games. He's not going to risk a few losses to get some new kid game experience when there is a better option on the bench.

4. Perry has been far less accurate than Rosier since he got on campus. In 6 scrimmages he's broken 50% once. Williams "mostly hits what he throws at, even if it's not the correct throw," according to Richt. Again, though, it must be emphasized that much of his work has been 7v7. You can criticize Rosier and Perry for accuracy issues despite QBs not being live, then you can **** well point out that Williams isn't even on the field with an O-line and D-line a vast majority of his reps.

5. Perry scrambles when he has a clean pocket and should keep his eyes down range, and Williams hasn't faced a d-line enough to accurately assess this.

 

[Gatorhater]

Why bash the player? I just don't get fans beating on Rosier, your explanation is on point.

We were 10 - 0, number 2, and owned the news cycle for longer than anyone else since Trump. That was exciting. Kid earned his four year ride last year. Why dump on kid who overachieved.

 

[JgDaCane]

my problem with rosier was him saying he was going thru the motions before the Pitt game. can’t forgive that. ridiculous.

 

[BigBoi]

As bad as everyone knows he was he Beat FSU and we won 10 games for the first time in years. He also set the TD record for us. For him to be such a bum he did us good last year. Those last three games though ruined everything that he accomplished in the first 10 games.

With all that being said if he starts this year I'm going to hope it's because he was pushed for the job and stepped up to keep it.

If he loses to LSU and looks bad it's time to play one of the younger guys.

 

[cubin10]

We were 10 - 0, number 2, and owned the news cycle for longer than anyone else since Trump. That was exciting. Kid earned his four year ride last year. Why dump on kid who overachieved.

A cane fan can roots for whoever they like at qb, I'm all in on that. I believe in Richt. If he thinks Rosier is his guy so be it, we are not talking about Al Golden here.

Most importantly if someone wants to bash Richt, ok, but the intense criticism that Rosier gets on this board is unfair to a 21 year old kid doing the best he can with what he is equipped with. Fans want what they want and they want it now. The ugliness of the comments about Rosier are not necessary.

 

[Hoyacane1620]

1. He had the best Spring camp of the QBs according to the coaches, and ended up being what Richt referred to as the only guy capable of running our entire system.

2. What reports? What reports specifically? Perry completed less than 50% of his passes during spring scrimmages, and was chided over and over about being too quick to tuck and run from a clean pocket. Weldon sat out nearly the entire spring with pink-eye, and Williams just got here. Yes, he's been pretty accurate, but mostly in 7v7 stuff because we don't have enough bodies to fill out an entire 3rd team. Plus Richt says he doesn't really know what he's doing out there yet.

3. Because this is not a guessing game. You go with who gives you the best chance to win the next game. Not who can maybe gain a little experience and be the better QB next season or even the second half of this season. Coaches do not make these decisions on an, "oh well. Let's try this and see what happens," mentality. We're not paying Richt millions of dollars to guess. We're paying him to win games. He's not going to risk a few losses to get some new kid game experience when there is a better option on the bench.

4. Perry has been far less accurate than Rosier since he got on campus. In 6 scrimmages he's broken 50% once. Williams "mostly hits what he throws at, even if it's not the correct throw," according to Richt. Again, though, it must be emphasized that much of his work has been 7v7. You can criticize Rosier and Perry for accuracy issues despite QBs not being live, then you can **** well point out that Williams isn't even on the field with an O-line and D-line a vast majority of his reps.

5. Perry scrambles when he has a clean pocket and should keep his eyes down range, and Williams hasn't faced a d-line enough to accurately assess this.

Williams did NOT just play against 7v7. He faced 2nd team defense just like Perry. Yes, he did get 7v7 work in practice. But in scrimmages and the spring game he faced the same defense as Perry. His scrimmage stats all reflect that. And there are many reports of him in practice versus 2nd team defense, too. The only difference in the spring game was the two reps Perry got versus the 1s.

I agree Williams needs more consistent opportunity versus the 2nd and 1st team defenses. As low man this spring, he definitely got the short end of the reps until Cade went out. Hopefully he will get more valuable reps during the summer - it's the only way CMR can truly judge whether he is a viable option in game situations.

 

[orange&green84]

A cane fan can roots for whoever they like at qb, I'm all in on that. I believe in Richt. If he thinks Rosier is his guy so be it, we are not talking about Al Golden here.

Most importantly if someone wants to bash Richt, ok, but the intense criticism that Rosier gets on this board is unfair to a 21 year old kid doing the best he can with what he is equipped with. Fans want what they want and they want it now. The ugliness of the comments about Rosier are not necessary.

Rosier's going to be 23 in October. This is big time CFB, players undergoing criticism and scrutiny is part of the deal.

 

[gabednconfused]

What do you guys think happens if Rosier completes 61% of his passes?

Armageddon

 

[cane since birth]

Certainly didn't help Kaaya.

Berrios caught more balls & TDs from Malik last year, than He caught from Kaaya His 1st 3 years COMBINED.

Ditto with Herndon.

Well one thing coley was calling the offense his first two years, second when richt first came in he rarely put berrios in the slot he put njoku there for mismatches, he put set plays for berrios in the red zone his senior season, he was horribly missed used his first three years here

 

[MainLineCane]

I agree that Rosier is doing the best that he can. It does no good for us to continually knock him. ( I did it a lot) Lots of his problems from fans and posters stem from the fact hat he seems and plays lackadaisical at times. He also hurts himself a lot during interviews by admitting things that probably should have remained unsaid.

Hopefully, he's improved over last year because this year he won't be able to phone it in. Our opposition are well aware of his flaws and will do their best to force him into making more errors.

Its going to be up to him to utilize the many weapons this offense has. He evidently has the best grasp of the offense and until proven otherwise he gives us the best opportunity to win.

CMR has left the door wide open for him to be replaced. You can't ask for more than that. No matter who you want at QB

If it hasn't happened yet, no matter how much you dislike Rosier's performances, you've got to give him credit for still holding onto the position despite all of his flaws.....or start looking at why our QB recruits haven't overtaken him

 

[caneaddict]

What do you guys think happens if Rosier completes 61% of his passes?

the "gurus" attribute it to some unforeseen event or change that have they had known, they wouldve completely endorsed Rosier, but since it was such an act of god that Rosier improved, they couldve never really seen it coming, but they are happy god intervened and improved rosier but of course their superminds couldve never really predicted god intervening

 

[Salt]

Adding talent does not make one a better passer. Adding talent helps an accurate passer far more than it helps an inaccurate passer. Kenny Kelly had Reggie Wayne, Santana Moss, and Bubba Franks, so having that talent means nothing without a QB that can hit it.

Now, I hope Rosier improves, and getting closer to 60% would be nice. However, if getting to 60% means fewer shots downfield because he can't hit them, or fewer passes over the middle because he's not comfortable with them, it will mean little. Completing more 2 yard passes does nothing for our O, and it certainly won't help the run game. It's more than just % that counts, it's being able to hit the ones that he couldn't hit last year. It's getting first downs and keeping the chains moving. He needs to improve more than a little for us to succeed, and completion percentage alone won't tell the story.

you are right, of course. But adding talent does take the onus off of him to put the game on his shoulders. When we lost Richards, Herndon, and Walton that hurt the flow of the offense a lot. We are adding a lot more talent, including a legit full back and full stable of explosive backs, etc.

The less we depend on Rosier's heroics (or lack thereof) the better (and more consistent) the offense will be. It will not be him that necessarily improves but the offense will hopefully have more consistency.

 

[ThomasM]

you are right, of course. But adding talent does take the onus off of him to put the game on his shoulders. When we lost Richards, Herndon, and Walton that hurt the flow of the offense a lot. We are adding a lot more talent, including a legit full back and full stable of explosive backs, etc.

The less we depend on Rosier's heroics (or lack thereof) the better (and more consistent) the offense will be. It will not be him that necessarily improves but the offense will hopefully have more consistency.

But it didn't, really, because our O had no flow to begin with. Heck, even in game one against Bethune we looked anemic.

It's the little things that Rosier needs to improve so we don't need miracles and heroics, and I am not sure can improve them. Yes, more talent can't hurt, but it just won't help as much as some people think, if the QB is struggling.