Rewatched the UNC game

[jerzeycane]

See I want him against Williams or Darby, take those guys out the game at the very least, which will allow Herb and Dorsett more favrable match ups. I think Stacy at the top of his game gives William and Draby all they can handle, I don't think our others guys will really do that. Sure Dorsett is a beast over the top, and may get away with a time or two, but we can't count on that when you have athletes with speed like Darby on him with help over the top from Ramsey. They can be beat, Parker torched them, but we gotta get the most out of our guys, and unfortunately the only guy we have that has the ability to do that consistently is Stacy.

Like you said, I like Stacy in the slot, I like Stacy running deep verticals in the slot, force them to adjust to us and our talent. Also concerning Darby, that dude is a legit 4.3 dude that can cover, but he is soft. We need someone to pop him on a running play, dude is scared of contact. Back to Stacy, I like Stacy in the slot but only if it is effective and early, Im scared that if we put our other 2 guys out wide, PJ and Darby have a field day. Test them deep with Stacy, at least make them account for him. I say Stacy not Dorsett, because Stacy can go up and make a play, Dorsett is more of a guy that slips past your defense than a guy that makes an acrobatic catch.

What you've illustrated and what has been illustrated throughout this thread, is that we've got matchup advantages everywhere. Whether it's Duke vs. their Backers, our TE's against their backers, or our slot against their nickel, we have matchups that Coley needs to take advantage of.

I'm just hoping that Eddie Goldman doesn't start wrecking everything, because Shane McDermott has done terribly against every big time defensive tackle and honestly that's understandable because you can't really do anything about a great DT, but he can't be getting rag dolled. It was Louis Nix in '12. It was Timmy Jernigan and Lawrence-Stample last year. He's got to have a better performance.

Unfortunately Goldman is beasting this year, and Shane is gonna need major help, but I think we can do a decent enough job here where we can still mitigate that. Duke still had near a hundred by the fourth against Timmy and Goldman last year, we can do the **** thing. The kool aid is flowing over here…...

 

[DMoney]

With Coley, I always come back to this: I'd rather have Coley coaching Kaaya, Lawson and Allison than Jedd Fisch coaching Gray Crow, Preston Dewey and Kevin Olsen.

I have great respect for Coley's eye for QB talent. I was initially not sold on Lawson, but people who have coached against him this year have called him Baby Cam. Can't wait for his senior highlights.

 

[SpikeUM]

ok, I have no shame. What is 12 and 22 personnel?

12= One back, two tight ends
22= Two backs, two tight ends

oh, I knew that!

 

[SpikeUM]

ok, I have no shame. What is 12 and 22 personnel?

Lol. You, me, and 99.9% of this board doesn't know what 12 and 22 personal are. I'm glad you manned up and asked.

To add to what D$ mentioned:

Personnel numbering is a two digit system. The first digit counts the number of backs in the game, while the second digit counts the number of tight ends in the game. By process of elimination you know how many WR's are in the game. You often see the defensive sideline holding up personnel cards before the snap. Offensive play calling is limited to personnel groupings (for the most part). Generally, a team in 10 personnel can't run any power/counter blocking schemes, unless it's run with the quarterback, for example.

A few more examples with a corresponding offensive formation series:
00 = 0 (no backs) 0 (no tight ends) [5 wide receivers] **Empty**
10 = 1 (one back) 0 (no tight ends) [4 wide receivers] **One Back**
23 = 2 (two backs) 3 (three tight ends) [0 wide receivers] **Goaline**
30 = 3 (three backs) 0 (no tight ends) [2 wide receivers] **Flexbone**
31 = 3 (three backs) 1 (one tight end) [1 wide receiver] **WingT**

thank you sir!

 

[4Canes]

Excellent thread, nice work!

 

[alnwpi]

With Coley, I always come back to this: I'd rather have Coley coaching Kaaya, Lawson and Allison than Jedd Fisch coaching Gray Crow, Preston Dewey and Kevin Olsen.

I have great respect for Coley's eye for QB talent. I was initially not sold on Lawson, but people who have coached against him this year have called him Baby Cam. Can't wait for his senior highlights.

Interesting point. For as creative as Fisch was as a play caller, especially compared to Coley before the last couple of games, he didn't really work out as a QB recruiter. Wonder how far he really could have gotten us in terms of QB play

 

[cane305]

I asked an insider what they thought of Coley and basically they said,"He may not be the greatest play caller or Bill Walsh, etc, but his big picture view of the program and ideas to move it forward are top notch." That's why Im rooting like **** for him. There is no other place he'd rather be than the U

k9, and board:

you guys think Coley will be ready to take over if Golden is gone next year?

 

[k9cane]

I asked an insider what they thought of Coley and basically they said,"He may not be the greatest play caller or Bill Walsh, etc, but his big picture view of the program and ideas to move it forward are top notch." That's why Im rooting like **** for him. There is no other place he'd rather be than the U

k9, and board:

you guys think Coley will be ready to take over if Golden is gone next year?

JMO, I think the best case scenario is for Golden to win big and the move on in about 3/4 years. Coley's dream job is UM( and I think as the head coach he'd do great things at Coral Gables) that's the scenario that Im hoping and dreaming for

 

[MedleyCane]

Thank goodness for this thread.
Lots of good stuff and little, if any, of the agenda-driven stuff by the pro and anti-Golden folks.
Need more of this!

 

[k9cane]

Thank goodness for this thread.
Lots of good stuff and little, if any, of the agenda-driven stuff by the pro and anti-Golden folks.
Need more of this!

Thats only because certain posters arent in this thread. Its really that simple

 

[Miami82]

A few thoughts:

- We ran a ton of 12 and 22 personnel. About a month ago, WestEndZone told me that he felt we played best with two tight ends on the field. Coley must've seen the same thing, because we've been heavy with Dobard and Walford lately. Both guys are big and powerful at the point of attack while still being receiving threats, and it's no coincidence we've been so successful running the ball with them on the field. I'd like this trend to continue against FSU.

- Trevor Darling is going to be a good one. He got beat a couple times for playing too high, but for the most part he was excellent. He is blessed with long arms and a powerful lower body, and with another year in the weight room he will become a road grader.

- Phillip Dorsett had a great game without catching a ball. Not only did he have a key block on the safety on Duke's 90 yard TD, but he had several other great blocks that sprung the ballcarrier (including on Walford's catch and run). He has worked himself into a complete player who will be a hot commodity in May.

- Kaaya is deadly accurate. His throws to Walford were put in a place where only he could get the football. That's an encouraging sign with the way we've been recruiting big receivers.

This is one of the best blocking WR's groups I have ever seen from the canes. Someone is taking their job very seriously.

 

[hcanes100]

A few thoughts:

- We ran a ton of 12 and 22 personnel. About a month ago, WestEndZone told me that he felt we played best with two tight ends on the field. Coley must've seen the same thing, because we've been heavy with Dobard and Walford lately. Both guys are big and powerful at the point of attack while still being receiving threats, and it's no coincidence we've been so successful running the ball with them on the field. I'd like this trend to continue against FSU.

- Trevor Darling is going to be a good one. He got beat a couple times for playing too high, but for the most part he was excellent. He is blessed with long arms and a powerful lower body, and with another year in the weight room he will become a road grader.

- Phillip Dorsett had a great game without catching a ball. Not only did he have a key block on the safety on Duke's 90 yard TD, but he had several other great blocks that sprung the ballcarrier (including on Walford's catch and run). He has worked himself into a complete player who will be a hot commodity in May.

- Kaaya is deadly accurate. His throws to Walford were put in a place where only he could get the football. That's an encouraging sign with the way we've been recruiting big receivers.

This is one of the best blocking WR's groups I have ever seen from the canes. Someone is taking their job very seriously.

It is one of the reasons Dorsett is going to go to the league and do well. His speed, he blocking. His tape don't lie. He is the most underrated WR we have had here. He is going to the be Hurns, NFL is going to be shocked at how good he is.

I am betting the Jags pick him from the Fisch connection, and they will have Hurns Dorsett. Amazing.

 

[Miami82]

A few thoughts:

- We ran a ton of 12 and 22 personnel. About a month ago, WestEndZone told me that he felt we played best with two tight ends on the field. Coley must've seen the same thing, because we've been heavy with Dobard and Walford lately. Both guys are big and powerful at the point of attack while still being receiving threats, and it's no coincidence we've been so successful running the ball with them on the field. I'd like this trend to continue against FSU.

- Trevor Darling is going to be a good one. He got beat a couple times for playing too high, but for the most part he was excellent. He is blessed with long arms and a powerful lower body, and with another year in the weight room he will become a road grader.

- Phillip Dorsett had a great game without catching a ball. Not only did he have a key block on the safety on Duke's 90 yard TD, but he had several other great blocks that sprung the ballcarrier (including on Walford's catch and run). He has worked himself into a complete player who will be a hot commodity in May.

- Kaaya is deadly accurate. His throws to Walford were put in a place where only he could get the football. That's an encouraging sign with the way we've been recruiting big receivers.

This is one of the best blocking WR's groups I have ever seen from the canes. Someone is taking their job very seriously.

It is one of the reasons Dorsett is going to go to the league and do well. His speed, he blocking. His tape don't lie. He is the most underrated WR we have had here. He is going to the be Hurns, NFL is going to be shocked at how good he is.

I am betting the Jags pick him from the Fisch connection, and they will have Hurns Dorsett. Amazing.

Dorsett will go high on his speed alone.

 

[rsa coral gables]

i wish more threads were like this, thanks for the meaningful exchange

 

[CANE]

A few thoughts:

- We ran a ton of 12 and 22 personnel. About a month ago, WestEndZone told me that he felt we played best with two tight ends on the field. Coley must've seen the same thing, because we've been heavy with Dobard and Walford lately. Both guys are big and powerful at the point of attack while still being receiving threats, and it's no coincidence we've been so successful running the ball with them on the field. I'd like this trend to continue against FSU.

I'm curious if this is the case because that's when we're actually focused and patient with there run, or if it's a matter of execution. Because we run great stuff out of 3WR sets, too. But, we happen to have a tendency to lose focus, attempt to be clever, and end up disjointed. As another offering of support to my curiosity, we also look great when we play with a FB and TE - even out of the Gun. The common denominator in those scenarios is that we tend to go to those sets when Coley is on "we're going to run the ******* ball" mode. It happened a number of times last year - GTech and NC being two prominent examples.

To be clear, I'm not denying we're great in those sets, but rather that it *may* be a result of a clear identity with an emphasis on patience, as opposed to a schematic advantage.

Interesting you mention identity. Something else I mentioned in said conversation between D$ and me was that we didn't quite have an identity yet. I think we figured out that we needed to have a diverse running game with #8 and that we needed to protect Kaaya. The two TE sets (and the 21 personnel sets like you mentioned) allow us to do have the flexibility to run both man and zone blocking schemes in the run game, and it allows us to max protect the quarterback.

The diversity in running scheme allows us to have diversity in our boot game as well. We're able to have a healthy side to side boot game with our outside and inside zone run game. With our power and isolation man blocking schemes we're able to mix in vertical play action while max protecting. Right now this is serving us very well. It allows us to ride our All-American RB. It allows us to protect our true freshman QB. It allows us to have a terrifying home run threat with #4 running vertically off play action.

We use a pro system. Pro and multiple are almost synonymous. We need our 11 and 10 personnel groupings to serve as change ups or answers to what we identify as. I think for a few games we tried to do too much in those groupings. We got too cute.

I would add HB screens to that change-up mix too.

 

[callmetrip]

Asante is in the NFL.

 

[eleganttomcat]

I know certain people are going to chew me up for this but I really, REALLY like Coley as a coach. He has really grown into the position. Keep in mind this is his first rodeo as a signal caller and while he started out really ****** he has grown into the position and improved week in and week out. I am really curious to truly understand the rumors of Golden trying to get in his way. It seems like he's backed off and let Coley do what he wants from what I can tell. But then again I have no idea what that situation is or was, so I'll just assume at this point Coley has been given the keys and is in the drivers seat while Golden is not in the car with him at all so to speak.

As he has proved multiple times at different schools, he has a clear eye for talent and can recruit the **** out of kids. I would put him toe to toe with any other coach in the country for a recruit, the dude just has the "it" factor with high school ball players, and that shows in any interview where a kid is asked about the coaches. If Coley is actively recruiting a kid, the kid is practically drooling over their relationship with Coley before they even step on campus or even commit. So off the field, Coley has the skills a coach needs down pat, and hes continously proving that he is developing the skills he needs to succeed on the field at a high level.

I would bet a lot of money he will be a head coach at a big time program in five years, and I am really starting to hope its our program here at Miami. The guys just a peoples person. He gets it, and understands what a teams culture needs to be... he did a lot of winning up at FSU and even if he wasn't calling the shots he still experienced everything that they had going on up there. I have a ton of confidence that he knows how to lead and will be able to put the necessary coaches in place at the coordinator and position coach levels and give them the tools that they need to succeed by supporting rather than controlling. He will kill it one day soon at the help.

Ok I'll hop off his **** now I'm not sure where that came from

 

[eleganttomcat]

A few thoughts:

- We ran a ton of 12 and 22 personnel. About a month ago, WestEndZone told me that he felt we played best with two tight ends on the field. Coley must've seen the same thing, because we've been heavy with Dobard and Walford lately. Both guys are big and powerful at the point of attack while still being receiving threats, and it's no coincidence we've been so successful running the ball with them on the field. I'd like this trend to continue against FSU.

- Trevor Darling is going to be a good one. He got beat a couple times for playing too high, but for the most part he was excellent. He is blessed with long arms and a powerful lower body, and with another year in the weight room he will become a road grader.

- Phillip Dorsett had a great game without catching a ball. Not only did he have a key block on the safety on Duke's 90 yard TD, but he had several other great blocks that sprung the ballcarrier (including on Walford's catch and run). He has worked himself into a complete player who will be a hot commodity in May.

- Kaaya is deadly accurate. His throws to Walford were put in a place where only he could get the football. That's an encouraging sign with the way we've been recruiting big receivers.

This is one of the best blocking WR's groups I have ever seen from the canes. Someone is taking their job very seriously.

It is one of the reasons Dorsett is going to go to the league and do well. His speed, he blocking. His tape don't lie. He is the most underrated WR we have had here. He is going to the be Hurns, NFL is going to be shocked at how good he is.

I am betting the Jags pick him from the Fisch connection, and they will have Hurns Dorsett. Amazing.

I'd compare Dorsett to Travis Benjamin a ton. I'm not sure why, but in my head I get the feeling that Benjamin is/was faster than Dorsett but the numbers clearly show otherwise. They're either practically the same speed or Dorsett is faster. But either way, if Benjamin was a 3rd rounder (I think he was third, right?) then I see absolutely no reason at all Dorsett isn't also a third rounder. He insantly gives teams an over the top threat, and after getting rid of DJax, he would be a perfect fit for my Eagles. I'd actually be shocked if we don't pick him up in the draft. It just makes too much sense for Chip Kelly considering Phil's character and abilities. Hes a great kid with not even a hiccup of off the field issues. My buddy is a scout for the birds and says that if a kid has even the tiniest inkling of an off the field issue Chip takes him off the draft board immediately, no exceptions [yet]. Anyways, Dorsett has the potential to be a big time threat on Sundays.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

What is the no play action, pulling a lineman in pass protect called?

I'm dyin ova hea.

 

[plantcity3]

What is the no play action, pulling a lineman in pass protect called?

I'm dyin ova hea.

A molly block. Some also refer to it as a sink to swivel.