Rewatched the UNC game

[jerzeycane]

The personnel groupings have been dictated by the matchups, too. We spread Nebraska out because our #3 and #4 receivers were a huge mismatch over their nickel and dime backs. There was a huge speed deficit in general. It worked, but the defense didn't hold up their end of the bargain.

FSU is deeper at DB, thinner at LB and much faster as a team, so I'd expect more 12 and 22. I'm also concerned about protecting Kaaya with so many young OL out there, so that's another reason to go heavy.

FSU has mega talent, but they don't really have much of a pass rush, which is crazy to me because who they trot out there. Mario Edwards from a measureables standpoint should be a sack machine but he just isn't. I think we can protect Kaaya just fine, others have against them this year and it wasn't a problem. The question is what are we gonna do against their secondary. Yes, they do get beat, but everybody does. I have yet to see our WRs play well against athletes that are equal or better and that is what they will face against FSU. We really really need Stacy Coley to emerge here and be who we all believe he can be. Like you said though, we need to run the ball and test their thin LB corp in the passing with our TEs, we have match ups to exploit there. In a game where not many match ups will favor us, we need to exploit the few we do have.

I've noticed that most of Stacy's big plays last year came early in the game.

Duke- 1st Quarter PR Td
VT- 1st Quarter Receiving TD
Pitt-2 1st Quarter Receiving TD

He seems to be a player who likes to get involved early and finds his rhythm that way. As WEZ said, the primary focus of the offense has shifted this season. Stacy has gone from option 1 by the end of last season, to option 5 or 6. It's about Duke first and foremost. Everyone else falls in line after. I also don't get the sense that he's an especially adept route runner, but I'm probably speculating. I hope we find something with him in the slot though. Getting him in the slot gets him away from Williams and Darby and I like Stacy in a match up against just about every nickel corner in the country.

 

[k9cane]

Funny how much I had to take up for kehoe this summer and earlier this year. Getting called every computer coach insult in the book. But proof is in the pudding. He is and has been the best coach on this staff from Al's first year. Only problem has been play calling. Kehoe specializes in teaching that zone blocking. That is the biggest difference in our success in the run game. Not just the double tight sets. Coleus getting away from all that power and calling a lot of zone here lately.

A position coach is only as good as his coordinator. Remember that. Paul Williams may be a great db coach but we'd never know cuz donofrio scheme is so terrible.

Now that we see an adjustment in offensive play calling and defensive alignment those same position coaches that were being trashed actually look like they know what they're doing now.

From the looks of the posts, the regurgitation of coach speak, and the inability to discern why we can't beat wake forest convincingly with thrice the talent is all the evidence I need that 99.9% of us have no clue what football is outside of rooting for the team.

5, with that said( and Im not arguing with you) but in the past, didn't UM under Kehoe have great success with the stuff like the sprint draw( a play that Don Soldinger loved as a coach going back to his days as Southridge) and assorted downhill runs and guys like Richard Mercier pulling? Miami, even during their glory days, I don't always recall them being a zone-blocking team....

 

[AllAboutTheU]

Most quality thread that I've seen around here in weeks. Good ****.

 

[Canezum5]

Z

If you can, use ESPN3. It is what I have used to watch all of the games multiple times over. I'd like to point out that when watching it over and over you can see that the defense is just quicker in their decision making now and seems like they are trusting the system to work the way it is intended to. Nobody is freelancing around and it is making the unit click.

Umm no. Sorry the only difference is the alignment. We're closer to the Los and it allows the defense to respond faster mad more aggressive. Has nothing to do with freelancing and all that crap. Stop listening to al golden. And if you don't understand football ask someone to explain it for you.

Not really. We're doing a little more press bail stuff but everything else is pretty much the same.

Dude you can't be serious. Wait till I get home. I'll show proof that we are playing closer to the Los. We are not playing two deep safeties with the lbs 7 to ten yards off the ball in a base formation. Like we've done in the past. We're just not and it's easy to see. Ill see if I can find some way to post some proof vids.

 

[Canezum5]

Funny how much I had to take up for kehoe this summer and earlier this year. Getting called every computer coach insult in the book. But proof is in the pudding. He is and has been the best coach on this staff from Al's first year. Only problem has been play calling. Kehoe specializes in teaching that zone blocking. That is the biggest difference in our success in the run game. Not just the double tight sets. Coleus getting away from all that power and calling a lot of zone here lately.

A position coach is only as good as his coordinator. Remember that. Paul Williams may be a great db coach but we'd never know cuz donofrio scheme is so terrible.

Now that we see an adjustment in offensive play calling and defensive alignment those same position coaches that were being trashed actually look like they know what they're doing now.

From the looks of the posts, the regurgitation of coach speak, and the inability to discern why we can't beat wake forest convincingly with thrice the talent is all the evidence I need that 99.9% of us have no clue what football is outside of rooting for the team.

5, with that said( and Im not arguing with you) but in the past, didn't UM under Kehoe have great success with the stuff like the sprint draw and assorted downhill runs and guys like Richard Mercier pulling? Miami, even during their glory days, I don't always recall them being a zone-blocking team....

Nah, you're right. I'm not sayi g kehoe can't teach the power scheme and that we can't be effect with it. But it's nowhere near as effective as his zone techniques and that's evident in the film. For the lineman we recruit and the style of backs the state of Florida produces its just smarter to run more zone than power.

 

[k9cane]

WestEndzone, DMoney and anyone else for that matter, how much of this shows the growth of James Coley as an OC( a guy that I really like personally) and him just figuring it out and getting it?

DMoney and I have talked about this a lot, but I hope Mr Coley is around this program a loooong time because I think he can be a guy that can do big things, eventually. And for the record, I've also been critical of him, but I root like **** for his success( because I know how much he loves the U and the city of Miami)

 

[jerzeycane]

Z

If you can, use ESPN3. It is what I have used to watch all of the games multiple times over. I'd like to point out that when watching it over and over you can see that the defense is just quicker in their decision making now and seems like they are trusting the system to work the way it is intended to. Nobody is freelancing around and it is making the unit click.

Umm no. Sorry the only difference is the alignment. We're closer to the Los and it allows the defense to respond faster mad more aggressive. Has nothing to do with freelancing and all that crap. Stop listening to al golden. And if you don't understand football ask someone to explain it for you.

Not really. We're doing a little more press bail stuff but everything else is pretty much the same.

People want the old way of Miami DB play and it's simply not going to happen under this staff for better/worse.

They don't even teach the two hand jam. So that high school stuff where you see a kid simply driving a Wide Receiver out of bounds isn't going to happen. Our major issue in the past has been the fact that we don't disguise well. We used to declare our alignment and exactly where the offense should go with the football as soon as we came to the line. Our blitzes were telegraphed and our coverages were telegraphed. We've done a better job lately with using press bail more as you state. At least teams can't simply make sight adjustments for a free 7 or 8 yards.

 

[k9cane]

Funny how much I had to take up for kehoe this summer and earlier this year. Getting called every computer coach insult in the book. But proof is in the pudding. He is and has been the best coach on this staff from Al's first year. Only problem has been play calling. Kehoe specializes in teaching that zone blocking. That is the biggest difference in our success in the run game. Not just the double tight sets. Coleus getting away from all that power and calling a lot of zone here lately.

A position coach is only as good as his coordinator. Remember that. Paul Williams may be a great db coach but we'd never know cuz donofrio scheme is so terrible.

Now that we see an adjustment in offensive play calling and defensive alignment those same position coaches that were being trashed actually look like they know what they're doing now.

From the looks of the posts, the regurgitation of coach speak, and the inability to discern why we can't beat wake forest convincingly with thrice the talent is all the evidence I need that 99.9% of us have no clue what football is outside of rooting for the team.

5, with that said( and Im not arguing with you) but in the past, didn't UM under Kehoe have great success with the stuff like the sprint draw and assorted downhill runs and guys like Richard Mercier pulling? Miami, even during their glory days, I don't always recall them being a zone-blocking team....

Nah, you're right. I'm not sayi g kehoe can't teach the power scheme and that we can't be effect with it. But it's nowhere near as effective as his zone techniques and that's evident in the film. For the lineman we recruit and the style of backs the state of Florida produces its just smarter to run more zone than power.

5, understood, it's a balance, gotta recruit to your scheme, but also adjust everything to the talent you have. Kehoe is really done a great job this season and I love the future of this unit. Kehoe's comeback is something that is great for this program, regardless....

 

[jerzeycane]

Z

If you can, use ESPN3. It is what I have used to watch all of the games multiple times over. I'd like to point out that when watching it over and over you can see that the defense is just quicker in their decision making now and seems like they are trusting the system to work the way it is intended to. Nobody is freelancing around and it is making the unit click.

Umm no. Sorry the only difference is the alignment. We're closer to the Los and it allows the defense to respond faster mad more aggressive. Has nothing to do with freelancing and all that crap. Stop listening to al golden. And if you don't understand football ask someone to explain it for you.

Not really. We're doing a little more press bail stuff but everything else is pretty much the same.

Dude you can't be serious. Wait till I get home. I'll show proof that we are playing closer to the Los. We are not playing two deep safeties with the lbs 7 to ten yards off the ball in a base formation. Like we've done in the past. We're just not and it's easy to see. Ill see if I can find some way to post some proof vids.

You gotta find those photos against teams NOT named Georgia Tech this year.

 

[bobbydigius]

The personnel groupings have been dictated by the matchups, too. We spread Nebraska out because our #3 and #4 receivers were a huge mismatch over their nickel and dime backs. There was a huge speed deficit in general. It worked, but the defense didn't hold up their end of the bargain.

FSU is deeper at DB, thinner at LB and much faster as a team, so I'd expect more 12 and 22. I'm also concerned about protecting Kaaya with so many young OL out there, so that's another reason to go heavy.

FSU has mega talent, but they don't really have much of a pass rush, which is crazy to me because who they trot out there. Mario Edwards from a measureables standpoint should be a sack machine but he just isn't. I think we can protect Kaaya just fine, others have against them this year and it wasn't a problem. The question is what are we gonna do against their secondary. Yes, they do get beat, but everybody does. I have yet to see our WRs play well against athletes that are equal or better and that is what they will face against FSU. We really really need Stacy Coley to emerge here and be who we all believe he can be. Like you said though, we need to run the ball and test their thin LB corp in the passing with our TEs, we have match ups to exploit there. In a game where not many match ups will favor us, we need to exploit the few we do have.

I've noticed that most of Stacy's big plays last year came early in the game.

Duke- 1st Quarter PR Td
VT- 1st Quarter Receiving TD
Pitt-2 1st Quarter Receiving TD

He seems to be a player who likes to get involved early and finds his rhythm that way. As WEZ said, the primary focus of the offense has shifted this season. Stacy has gone from option 1 by the end of last season, to option 5 or 6. It's about Duke first and foremost. Everyone else falls in line after. I also don't get the sense that he's an especially adept route runner, but I'm probably speculating. I hope we find something with him in the slot though. Getting him in the slot gets him away from Williams and Darby and I like Stacy in a match up against just about every nickel corner in the country.

See I want him against Williams or Darby, take those guys out the game at the very least, which will allow Herb and Dorsett more favrable match ups. I think Stacy at the top of his game gives William and Draby all they can handle, I don't think our others guys will really do that. Sure Dorsett is a beast over the top, and may get away with a time or two, but we can't count on that when you have athletes with speed like Darby on him with help over the top from Ramsey. They can be beat, Parker torched them, but we gotta get the most out of our guys, and unfortunately the only guy we have that has the ability to do that consistently is Stacy.

Like you said, I like Stacy in the slot, I like Stacy running deep verticals in the slot, force them to adjust to us and our talent. Also concerning Darby, that dude is a legit 4.3 dude that can cover, but he is soft. We need someone to pop him on a running play, dude is scared of contact. Back to Stacy, I like Stacy in the slot but only if it is effective and early, Im scared that if we put our other 2 guys out wide, PJ and Darby have a field day. Test them deep with Stacy, at least make them account for him. I say Stacy not Dorsett, because Stacy can go up and make a play, Dorsett is more of a guy that slips past your defense than a guy that makes an acrobatic catch.

 

[dg151]

 

[Canezum5]

You know you're proving my point with these pictures right? That first pictures alignment is my point and look at the score. Now show me that same alignment in last years unc game.

 

[Canezum5]

Show me that alignment in this years losses

 

[WestEndZone]

WestEndzone, DMoney and anyone else for that matter, how much of this shows the growth of James Coley as an OC( a guy that I really like personally) and him just figuring it out and getting it?

DMoney and I have talked about this a lot, but I hope Mr Coley is around this program a loooong time because I think he can be a guy that can do big things, eventually. And for the record, I've also been critical of him, but I root like **** for his success( because I know how much he loves the U and the city of Miami)

Abridged opinion:

I've been very nervous about him since the start. I've been very critical (not publicly) was well. In the coaching community circulates the idea that coaches are either football coaches or recruiters (this is pretty widely accepted). It's rare that you find someone who is both. Those are the great ones. Until Coley proves he's not just a recruiter, I'm going to be nervous about him as a play caller.

He's figured out a nice winning formula for now. It's the most satisfied that I have been with him so far. I think he is growing. I think he needs to keep growing; and I think necessity is the absolute best motivator.

 

[jerzeycane]

See I want him against Williams or Darby, take those guys out the game at the very least, which will allow Herb and Dorsett more favrable match ups. I think Stacy at the top of his game gives William and Draby all they can handle, I don't think our others guys will really do that. Sure Dorsett is a beast over the top, and may get away with a time or two, but we can't count on that when you have athletes with speed like Darby on him with help over the top from Ramsey. They can be beat, Parker torched them, but we gotta get the most out of our guys, and unfortunately the only guy we have that has the ability to do that consistently is Stacy.

Like you said, I like Stacy in the slot, I like Stacy running deep verticals in the slot, force them to adjust to us and our talent. Also concerning Darby, that dude is a legit 4.3 dude that can cover, but he is soft. We need someone to pop him on a running play, dude is scared of contact. Back to Stacy, I like Stacy in the slot but only if it is effective and early, Im scared that if we put our other 2 guys out wide, PJ and Darby have a field day. Test them deep with Stacy, at least make them account for him. I say Stacy not Dorsett, because Stacy can go up and make a play, Dorsett is more of a guy that slips past your defense than a guy that makes an acrobatic catch.

What you've illustrated and what has been illustrated throughout this thread, is that we've got matchup advantages everywhere. Whether it's Duke vs. their Backers, our TE's against their backers, or our slot against their nickel, we have matchups that Coley needs to take advantage of.

I'm just hoping that Eddie Goldman doesn't start wrecking everything, because Shane McDermott has done terribly against every big time defensive tackle and honestly that's understandable because you can't really do anything about a great DT, but he can't be getting rag dolled. It was Louis Nix in '12. It was Timmy Jernigan and Lawrence-Stample last year. He's got to have a better performance.

 

[k9cane]

WestEndzone, DMoney and anyone else for that matter, how much of this shows the growth of James Coley as an OC( a guy that I really like personally) and him just figuring it out and getting it?

DMoney and I have talked about this a lot, but I hope Mr Coley is around this program a loooong time because I think he can be a guy that can do big things, eventually. And for the record, I've also been critical of him, but I root like **** for his success( because I know how much he loves the U and the city of Miami)

Abridged opinion:

I've been very nervous about him since the start. I've been very critical (not publicly) was well. In the coaching community circulates the idea that coaches are either football coaches or recruiters (this is pretty widely accepted). It's rare that you find someone who is both. Those are the great ones. Until Coley proves he's not just a recruiter, I'm going to be nervous about him as a play caller.

He's figured out a nice winning formula for now. It's the most satisfied that I have been with him so far. I think he is growing. I think he needs to keep growing; and I think necessity is the absolute best motivator.

WEZ, thanks for your input and yeah, that's the rep of Coley, great recruiter and well...

I asked an insider what they thought of Coley and basically they said,"He may not be the greatest play caller or Bill Walsh, etc, but his big picture view of the program and ideas to move it forward are top notch." That's why Im rooting like **** for him. There is no other place he'd rather be than the U

 

[WestEndZone]

WestEndzone, DMoney and anyone else for that matter, how much of this shows the growth of James Coley as an OC( a guy that I really like personally) and him just figuring it out and getting it?

DMoney and I have talked about this a lot, but I hope Mr Coley is around this program a loooong time because I think he can be a guy that can do big things, eventually. And for the record, I've also been critical of him, but I root like **** for his success( because I know how much he loves the U and the city of Miami)

Abridged opinion:

I've been very nervous about him since the start. I've been very critical (not publicly) was well. In the coaching community circulates the idea that coaches are either football coaches or recruiters (this is pretty widely accepted). It's rare that you find someone who is both. Those are the great ones. Until Coley proves he's not just a recruiter, I'm going to be nervous about him as a play caller.

He's figured out a nice winning formula for now. It's the most satisfied that I have been with him so far. I think he is growing. I think he needs to keep growing; and I think necessity is the absolute best motivator.

WEZ, thanks for your input and yeah, that's the rep of Coley, great recruiter and well...

I asked an insider what they thought of Coley and basically they said,"He may not be the greatest play caller or Bill Walsh, etc, but his big picture view of the program and ideas to move it forward are top notch." That's why Im rooting like **** for him. There is no other place he'd rather be than the U

Same here. I've always seen him as a head coach in waiting. Whatever happens in the future, he needs to be retained at all costs.

 

[bobbydigius]

See I want him against Williams or Darby, take those guys out the game at the very least, which will allow Herb and Dorsett more favrable match ups. I think Stacy at the top of his game gives William and Draby all they can handle, I don't think our others guys will really do that. Sure Dorsett is a beast over the top, and may get away with a time or two, but we can't count on that when you have athletes with speed like Darby on him with help over the top from Ramsey. They can be beat, Parker torched them, but we gotta get the most out of our guys, and unfortunately the only guy we have that has the ability to do that consistently is Stacy.

Like you said, I like Stacy in the slot, I like Stacy running deep verticals in the slot, force them to adjust to us and our talent. Also concerning Darby, that dude is a legit 4.3 dude that can cover, but he is soft. We need someone to pop him on a running play, dude is scared of contact. Back to Stacy, I like Stacy in the slot but only if it is effective and early, Im scared that if we put our other 2 guys out wide, PJ and Darby have a field day. Test them deep with Stacy, at least make them account for him. I say Stacy not Dorsett, because Stacy can go up and make a play, Dorsett is more of a guy that slips past your defense than a guy that makes an acrobatic catch.

What you've illustrated and what has been illustrated throughout this thread, is that we've got matchup advantages everywhere. Whether it's Duke vs. their Backers, our TE's against their backers, or our slot against their nickel, we have matchups that Coley needs to take advantage of.

I'm just hoping that Eddie Goldman doesn't start wrecking everything, because Shane McDermott has done terribly against every big time defensive tackle and honestly that's understandable because you can't really do anything about a great DT, but he can't be getting rag dolled. It was Louis Nix in '12. It was Timmy Jernigan and Lawrence-Stample last year. He's got to have a better performance.

Unfortunately Goldman is beasting this year, and Shane is gonna need major help, but I think we can do a decent enough job here where we can still mitigate that. Duke still had near a hundred by the fourth against Timmy and Goldman last year, we can do the **** thing. The kool aid is flowing over here…...

 

[The Dude]

6.9 per carry in 11 personnel, 7.8 in 12 this year (excluding FAMU).

Both at 8.7 last 3 games, 11 actually a bit more consistent, 12 had a few big plays. 15/37 went 10+ from 11, 12/51 went 10+ from 12.

We're definitely running more from under center than earlier in the year. Probably a bit too much inside zone on under center plays from 11. We almost exclusively run inside zone at the TE in that formation. Hopefully see a nice counter from that against FSU.

Nice statistical perspective. Where are you getting those stats? I'd like to keep up with them myself.

I think this is up to date.

Idea: you should write a weekly article on these types of stats, and situational/result type of information.

 

[dg151]

UNC Game, VT, Cincy, GT and older.