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skillydoo said:
I can’t watch that again. Please tell me if there is a different outcome.
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I used to re-watch the games to see where we went wrong; honestly, I don’t think I’ve been more frustrated watching Miami football. UVA was trying to give us the game and Richt said, I’m going to put corch u w my 30 yr old scheme!
 
Rellyrell said:
I used to re-watch the games to see where we went wrong; honestly, I don’t think I’ve been more frustrated watching Miami football. UVA was trying to give us the game and Richt said, I’m going to put corch u w my 30 yr old scheme!
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Honestly it was like we got a penalty (OLIne holding) everytime we started to do anything on offense. And with Rosier out there making worse throws than any of Perrys picks it was just anemic offensively.

There is one major positive: Our defense has been ******* balling this yr. Hopefully we can salvage this season and we can come back next year when most of these senior bums like Jones, Knowles, Gauthier, etc are all off the team and it will FORCE the coaches to play the more talented people.
 
calinative umstudent said:
Honestly it was like we got a penalty (OLIne holding) everytime we started to do anything on offense. And with Rosier out there making worse throws than any of Perrys picks it was just anemic offensively.

There is one major positive: Our defense has been ******* balling this yr. Hopefully we can salvage this season and we can come back next year when most of these senior bums like Jones, Knowles, Gauthier, etc are all off the team and it will FORCE the coaches to play the more talented people.
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The defense has been lights out. One game I did watch again was the LSU game. No way did I think LSU out play us as bad as the score seemed. Our offense gave LSU that game as well. The defense played really well. The only real lapse was that 50 yrd scamper.

It’s frustrating seeing our O start unnecessarily slow and run the same **** 7 plays.
 
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I was at the game and Perry deserved to continue playing. I posted this information in another thread that I have copied and pasted below. What everyone needs to understand is that the rebuild is not complete especially on the offensive side of the ball. This is about the juniors and seniors on the team. Some of those players red shirted on the offensive side especially. In my opinion, there are about 15 guys overall who are juniors and seniors who Golden recruited that just are not the type of elite players we need.

"A college football team is only as good as the recruits especially the Juniors and Seniors. Here are ours. I count a minimum of 15 players who were not Miami players. You think Banners don't matter? Explain why these were the best we got. And remember most of these guys redshirted.

Here is the offensive recruits we got during the banner era most of whom red shirted.

Malik Rosier, QB, Sr, Crispian Atkins, RB, Jr, Trayon Gray, RB, Sr, Travis Homer, RB, JR, Chad Allen, WR, Sr, Lawrence Cager, WR, Jr, Michael Irvin II, TE, JR, Venzelle Boulware, OL, JR, Tyler Gauthier, OL, SR, George Brown JR, OL, JR, Jahair Jones, OL. SR, Hayden Mahoney, OL, JR, Bar Milo, OL, JR, Tyree St Louis, OL, SR.

On the defensive side it is better but not much.

Pat Bethel, DL, JR, Demetrius Jackson, DL, SR, Joe Jackson, DL, SR, John O'Boyle, DL, SR, Tito Odenigbo, SR (transfer) , Scott Patchan, DL, JR, Gerald Willis, DL, SR (transfer), Zach McCloud, LB, JR, Terry McCray, LB, SR, Charles Perry, LB, SR, (no longer on team), Michale Pinkney, LB, SR, Shaq Quarterman, LB. SR, Mike Smith, LB, SR, Romeo Finley, DB, JR, Michael Jackson, DB, SR, Jaquan Johnson, DB, SR, Robert Knowles, DB, JR, Tyler Murphy, DB, SR, Sheldrick Redwin, DB, SR, James Murphy, S, JR.

Special Teams.

Marco Baez, PK, JR, Alejandro Cardenas, PK, SR, Jack Spicer, P, JR, Jordan Butler, LS, SR, Sam York, LS, SR. "

So watching the game in person, it is clear the defense who benefited from Shaq, Pink, and McCloud being firm commits despite Golden leaving, is ahead of the game talent wise than the offense. OL need the red shirt to beef up or be busts. I think we had more misses there than hits. So, despite the play calling issues, there is a bigger talent issue because you really need juniors and seniors to make plays when they are able. We don't have that on the offensive side of the ball. We made the commitment to them when they signed with us when few wanted to and so we kind of stuck to letting them get their degrees before we sign better talent when their schollys are over.
 
Rellyrell said:
I used to re-watch the games to see where we went wrong; honestly, I don’t think I’ve been more frustrated watching Miami football. UVA was trying to give us the game and Richt said, I’m going to put corch u w my 30 yr old scheme!
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I’m really hoping he doesn’t do that onside kick again. That was perplexing.
 
St. Louis and Donaldson haven’t been stellar either. They are constantly getting blown up on the outside zone plays. There’s really no excuse to go Rosier who’s been absolutely trash for a while now.
 
skillydoo said:
I’m really hoping he doesn’t do that onside kick again. That was perplexing.
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Between the back to back FB dive, benching Perry and not putting him back in, the inexcusable delay in running the offense when we’re down two scores w 6 to play, and that onside kick....I lost it. I’m not sure if I recall this board harping on a loss this long since that debacle against UL in the RAB.
 
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SJMPARMAN said:
I was at the game and Perry deserved to continue playing. I posted this information in another thread that I have copied and pasted below. What everyone needs to understand is that the rebuild is not complete especially on the offensive side of the ball. This is about the juniors and seniors on the team. Some of those players red shirted on the offensive side especially. In my opinion, there are about 15 guys overall who are juniors and seniors who Golden recruited that just are not the type of elite players we need.

"A college football team is only as good as the recruits especially the Juniors and Seniors. Here are ours. I count a minimum of 15 players who were not Miami players. You think Banners don't matter? Explain why these were the best we got. And remember most of these guys redshirted.

Here is the offensive recruits we got during the banner era most of whom red shirted.

Malik Rosier, QB, Sr, Crispian Atkins, RB, Jr, Trayon Gray, RB, Sr, Travis Homer, RB, JR, Chad Allen, WR, Sr, Lawrence Cager, WR, Jr, Michael Irvin II, TE, JR, Venzelle Boulware, OL, JR, Tyler Gauthier, OL, SR, George Brown JR, OL, JR, Jahair Jones, OL. SR, Hayden Mahoney, OL, JR, Bar Milo, OL, JR, Tyree St Louis, OL, SR.

On the defensive side it is better but not much.

Pat Bethel, DL, JR, Demetrius Jackson, DL, SR, Joe Jackson, DL, SR, John O'Boyle, DL, SR, Tito Odenigbo, SR (transfer) , Scott Patchan, DL, JR, Gerald Willis, DL, SR (transfer), Zach McCloud, LB, JR, Terry McCray, LB, SR, Charles Perry, LB, SR, (no longer on team), Michale Pinkney, LB, SR, Shaq Quarterman, LB. SR, Mike Smith, LB, SR, Romeo Finley, DB, JR, Michael Jackson, DB, SR, Jaquan Johnson, DB, SR, Robert Knowles, DB, JR, Tyler Murphy, DB, SR, Sheldrick Redwin, DB, SR, James Murphy, S, JR.

Special Teams.

Marco Baez, PK, JR, Alejandro Cardenas, PK, SR, Jack Spicer, P, JR, Jordan Butler, LS, SR, Sam York, LS, SR. "

So watching the game in person, it is clear the defense who benefited from Shaq, Pink, and McCloud being firm commits despite Golden leaving, is ahead of the game talent wise than the offense. OL need the red shirt to beef up or be busts. I think we had more misses there than hits. So, despite the play calling issues, there is a bigger talent issue because you really need juniors and seniors to make plays when they are able. We don't have that on the offensive side of the ball. We made the commitment to them when they signed with us when few wanted to and so we kind of stuck to letting them get their degrees before we sign better talent when their schollys are over.
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So maybe two more years and we won't get embarrassed by teams like ******?

Cool. I guess I'll just get drunk in the mean time.
 
You know what UGA fans are suppose to say when Kirby gets his *** murked by LSU?

"I miss Mark Richt!"

Then that UGA fan sees UVA beat Miami 16-13.
 
SJMPARMAN said:
I was at the game and Perry deserved to continue playing. I posted this information in another thread that I have copied and pasted below. What everyone needs to understand is that the rebuild is not complete especially on the offensive side of the ball. This is about the juniors and seniors on the team. Some of those players red shirted on the offensive side especially. In my opinion, there are about 15 guys overall who are juniors and seniors who Golden recruited that just are not the type of elite players we need.

"A college football team is only as good as the recruits especially the Juniors and Seniors. Here are ours. I count a minimum of 15 players who were not Miami players. You think Banners don't matter? Explain why these were the best we got. And remember most of these guys redshirted.

Here is the offensive recruits we got during the banner era most of whom red shirted.

Malik Rosier, QB, Sr, Crispian Atkins, RB, Jr, Trayon Gray, RB, Sr, Travis Homer, RB, JR, Chad Allen, WR, Sr, Lawrence Cager, WR, Jr, Michael Irvin II, TE, JR, Venzelle Boulware, OL, JR, Tyler Gauthier, OL, SR, George Brown JR, OL, JR, Jahair Jones, OL. SR, Hayden Mahoney, OL, JR, Bar Milo, OL, JR, Tyree St Louis, OL, SR.

On the defensive side it is better but not much.

Pat Bethel, DL, JR, Demetrius Jackson, DL, SR, Joe Jackson, DL, SR, John O'Boyle, DL, SR, Tito Odenigbo, SR (transfer) , Scott Patchan, DL, JR, Gerald Willis, DL, SR (transfer), Zach McCloud, LB, JR, Terry McCray, LB, SR, Charles Perry, LB, SR, (no longer on team), Michale Pinkney, LB, SR, Shaq Quarterman, LB. SR, Mike Smith, LB, SR, Romeo Finley, DB, JR, Michael Jackson, DB, SR, Jaquan Johnson, DB, SR, Robert Knowles, DB, JR, Tyler Murphy, DB, SR, Sheldrick Redwin, DB, SR, James Murphy, S, JR.

Special Teams.

Marco Baez, PK, JR, Alejandro Cardenas, PK, SR, Jack Spicer, P, JR, Jordan Butler, LS, SR, Sam York, LS, SR. "

So watching the game in person, it is clear the defense who benefited from Shaq, Pink, and McCloud being firm commits despite Golden leaving, is ahead of the game talent wise than the offense. OL need the red shirt to beef up or be busts. I think we had more misses there than hits. So, despite the play calling issues, there is a bigger talent issue because you really need juniors and seniors to make plays when they are able. We don't have that on the offensive side of the ball. We made the commitment to them when they signed with us when few wanted to and so we kind of stuck to letting them get their degrees before we sign better talent when their schollys are over.
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Honestly you have a point
 
TheChosenOne said:
You know what UGA fans are suppose to say when Kirby gets his *** murked by LSU?

"I miss Mark Richt!"

Then that UGA fan sees UVA beat Miami 16-13.
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theres no way anyone ever said that lol.............imagine if they did? they been smokin hella ****
 
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calinative umstudent said:
So have any of yall rewatched the game?

I'm currently rewatching it again, and quite honestly the decision to bench Perry is even stupider an inexplicable than I originally thought. This is just plain ******* retarded. He had 4 drives that stalled, but only the two ******* picks were bad passes. Then Rosier comes in and just ******* sucks. There was absolutely no reason not to go back to Perry after Rosier sucked the rest of the 1st half. Also its not even like Perry was complete garbage when he was in either. He made some nice throws. Obviously the 2 picks were very bad, but Richt said the 2nd pick wasn't his fault. Which just makes this **** even more infuriating.

Honestly the biggest problem is still the OLine, Special Teams, and ******* penalties. Literally penalties were a killer for us this game. Perry's 2nd drive (1st one ended cause the OLine can't block) he hits a 3rd down pass to Wiggins but it was holding so it brought it back. Then on defense we get a Targeting call which is the only reason they were able to get in range for that first score.

Our defense was ******* dominant. The Penalties and ultimately Personnel decisions ****ed us hard. And this isn't even really *****ing about the play calling either. I'm totally on board with wanting an OC (maybe fire Jon Richt and hire a QB/OC!!!!), but honestly the plays could have still ******* worked if 1) Richt didn't ******* pull Perry and put in Rosier who is complete garbage of a QB except for when he runs, and 2) The OLine didn't ******* suck so hard. Seriously Jahair Jones, Hayden Mahoney should NOT see any ******* PT the rest of the year. IDGAF if you have to put true freshman in, they ******* suck and are right there with Rosier and Knowles as Old guys who ******* suck and make their entire unit suck along with them. Seriously its ******* insanely retarded to play guys like Mahoney/Jones over Scaife (and slide Donaldson down), Knowles over Hall/Carter (even though Carter misses hella tackles), Rosier over Perry/Jarren/Weldon/DEEJAY/orLITERALLY ANYONE THAT CAN THROW A BALL.

I guess the biggest problem I have rewatching this game is not the play calling or even the coaching in general, its the ******* personnel decision making. Its like these dumbasses are ******* blind to talent, and are literally just playing the more experienced player simply because they are older. Why the **** is Jahair Jones and Hayden Mahoney getting reps when they get blown off the ******* ball or miss a block 10x a ******* game! Gauthier is getting ******* worked half the game too when it comes to run blocking. It just doesn't make any sense. Give Reed some ******* PT, make Boulware the full time starter! Keep Scaife at OT so Donaldson can play OG! ******* do something, stop putting the same JAGs on the ******* field and suddenly expect the run game to open up. Could the offense be a lot more creative and feature better play calling? YES, but ******* if have guys in that ******* suck they're gunna find a way to **** the play up regardless if it was a perfect play call or not.
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To answer your first question, no. **** no.

Now a couple questions for you...
  1. Why do you inflict pain on yourself?
  2. What’d you think about that long run Homer broke where it seemed he was gone, then slowed up and got caught from behind? If I’m not mistaken, 4 extra points would have been quite helpful to have in this game. I said at the time it almost looked like point shaving, half jokingly. Curious if it looks as bad as I remembered on the rewatch.
 
g8rh8rMD said:
To answer your first question, no. **** no.

Now a couple questions for you...
  1. Why do you inflict pain on yourself?
  2. What’d you think about that long run Homer broke where it seemed he was gone, then slowed up and got caught from behind? If I’m not mistaken, 4 extra points would have been quite helpful to have in this game. I said at the time it almost looked like point shaving, half jokingly. Curious if it looks as bad as I remembered on the rewatch.
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After he got run down there was zero chance we were scoring a TD.

Run. Run. INT out of bounds.
 
With what we know about (and saw again) with Rosier, bashing Richt for not putting Perry back in (or even yanking him at all) seems on point. Richt of course has some experience we don't, and maybe he's now a hated duffer past his prime and so his "professional judgment" there is just of no consequence (to us, anyway.) But I do wonder; Perry said something on Instagram about "keeping his mouth shut next time"... maybe the Coach tried to calm him down and he wasn't exact respectful, or coherent(?), in his 1-to-1 replies. Which led to him staying on the bench.

We don't really know do we?
 
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SJMPARMAN said:
Here is the offensive recruits we got during the banner era most of whom red shirted.

Malik Rosier, QB, Sr, Crispian Atkins, RB, Jr, Trayon Gray, RB, Sr, Travis Homer, RB, JR, Chad Allen, WR, Sr, Lawrence Cager, WR, Jr, Michael Irvin II, TE, JR, Venzelle Boulware, OL, JR, Tyler Gauthier, OL, SR, George Brown JR, OL, JR, Jahair Jones, OL. SR, Hayden Mahoney, OL, JR, Bar Milo, OL, JR, Tyree St Louis, OL, SR.
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Wow.

Homer B+.
Cager/St Louis B-
Everyone else D- or F.
 
Agree with you OP. Just confused why you chose to **** out some ***** and leave 100 others in there.
 
Cane Dynasty said:
So maybe two more years and we won't get embarrassed by teams like ******?

Cool. I guess I'll just get drunk in the mean time.
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Or you could be a real fan, give the coach time to replace the old regime's players with his guys, not encourage fans to fly banners and other silliness, and let him do his **** job. If you read my prior posts, given red shirts I felt Randy Shannon deserved five years because that is how long it takes for a coach to rebuild a program that is down to Golden level. Players commit to universities and Universities commit to players. It is a two way street. When a University makes a coaching change, it is not like the NFL. You don't cut a player because you have benefited, legally, from certain anti-trust laws with the sports exemption. The NCAA knows that. So yeeha, it is easy to rage how much you hate coaches, how you will have to endure being drunk for years, or maybe, as a human being, you sometimes have to acknowledge that when we fired Golden, and it was totally the right thing to do, there are consequences to that decision. Meaning, it takes time for the new coach to recruit and replace mistakes from the prior regime. That is all I am saying.

I also want to say this to you. I have read your posts for years. I respect your opinion. I absolutely agree Butch should have been hired over Richt. In fact, if Richt wasn't fired by Georgia, I think the U would have been forced, by the fan base, to bring him back. I also would say I agree he deserved that chance. But at this point, despite Butch being a football God, that ship has sailed for both of us. So we can either continue *****ing about what might have been or accept the reality that Richt needs time to replace the roster. I would, and did give Butch that when he rebuilt the roster in the late 1990's. I am willing to give Richt time to do so but not too much time, and he does need to change the concept on offense. You just hate that anyone other than Butch was hired and I totally get that. But at some point, as a true fan, we need to do what is right for the program and recognize the reality of our situation. We just have to give it time and not try to destroy what is being built. I haven't seen a Canes defense like this since Butch. I think Richt can get it done but we will see. There just isn't enough junior or senior leadership on offense right now to get the job done. JMO.
 
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