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There were the same hype reports last year…

Blame Mario, not the fans, for the once bitten twice shy…

Cautious optimism / trust but verify / believe it when I see it / show me — are all completely reasonable takes after that massive failure of 2022
It's not so much blame as it is some people ( not saying you) take things said way to personal... The things Coaches say during recruiting and come camps are said by all coaches everywhere every year...
The dialogue may change somewhat but the message is still the same... If a person takes every word a coach says as God speak that's on the person for believing every word told to them...
As you said in the second part of your post ,Cautious optimism, which is far better for more experienced fans and should be... Trust me I know you can't make everyone happy but I can make myself a happier fan by lightening up the load a bit on my own conscious...
 
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Nah. Not really. You're seeing it right now but y'all wanna keep changing the bar yourselfs... People here wanna keep forgetting what this university has been about since forever. There's been ZERO investment in the programS here in God knows how long. We haven't taken out facilities seriously, we haven't taken out campus seriously, we haven't taken out coaches seriously and as a result we've become what we have... Now come to campus and tell me that's what's going on. The campus has undergone a night and day flip in the last ten years or so far as a serious facelift has gone. From the dorms,to our class rooms,etc. Our facilities have FINALLY been something the university has committed to and in a HUGE WAY. We are competing with virtually EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY. None of this matters to y'all though. Before it was we won't do this, we won't do that,we won't spend on this, we won't spend for that, our facilities are still in the stone ages... **** y'all want for you to understand IT'S A PROCESS... from top to bottom were coming into a new day. We have a proven coach who has turned around a power 5 program and made them 2x conference champs under his several years there. He won a rose bowl in his several years there. He took a program that was nothing and made them a perennial contender whether y'all wanna admit it or not. The man JUST GOT HERE AND HAS PLAYED ONE SEASON with a team that was built for deception and with holes throughout. Give it a ****** break... He hired people who were widely respected all throughout on staff & hindsight yes it most certainly was a disaster. We ALL RECOGNIZE THAT. What was his response? He burnt that **** to the ground and started over with only the pieces that did work just like ALL OF YALL wanted. Now the complaint is oh we must be broke after all and we went and did all of this just off one dudes empty promises and checkbook. No matter how many people tell y'all that you wrong it doesn't matter. So I'm sorry but when you say you gotta see it well what exactly are you looking at? You're seeing it day after day after day. You're seeing monumental progress throughout but you see everything through a lense of what we used to be. Well reality says you don't go from burger king to Delmonico or Christie's over night... You wake up and grind & that's what were doing. Y'all fans just don't wanna take part in the process. People wanna ***** and moan like the rest of this miserable society. I'm sorry but perfection is a process. Subscribe to it or just go elsewhere in the meantime. But it would help if some of y'all would simply either take a step back publicly and allow the man to work or simply be supportive to the process and understand these people at the very least DESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW WHO THEY ARE... #fullmeltdownmode
Well said sir 👍🏽
 
It's not so much blame as it is some people ( not saying you) take things said way to personal... The things Coaches say during recruiting and come camps are said by all coaches everywhere every year...
The dialogue may change somewhat but the message is still the same... If a person takes every word a coach says as God speak that's on the person for believing every word told to them...
As you said in the second part of your post ,Cautious optimism, which is far better for more experienced fans and should be... Trust me I know you can't make everyone happy but I can make myself a happier fan by lightening up the load a bit on my own conscious...

Yea man. I go into every season optimistic. Some seasons more cautious than others.
 
It's not so much blame as it is some people ( not saying you) take things said way to personal... The things Coaches say during recruiting and come camps are said by all coaches everywhere every year...
The dialogue may change somewhat but the message is still the same... If a person takes every word a coach says as God speak that's on the person for believing every word told to them...
As you said in the second part of your post ,Cautious optimism, which is far better for more experienced fans and should be... Trust me I know you can't make everyone happy but I can make myself a happier fan by lightening up the load a bit on my own conscious...
I think he most experienced fans are skeptical bc of last year and what miami football has been outside of 1 season in the last 20 years. can Mario win? yes. will he? remains to be seen bc idc what he did at Fiu and Oregon. this isnt fit and Oregon. it matters what he does here. so far, I like the new staff better than last years but idc for the hype articles. ill wait till week 2 to see what we look like.
 
I think he most experienced fans are skeptical bc of last year and what miami football has been outside of 1 season in the last 20 years. can Mario win? yes. will he? remains to be seen bc idc what he did at Fiu and Oregon. this isnt fit and Oregon. it matters what he does here. so far, I like the new staff better than last years but idc for the hype articles. ill wait till week 2 to see what we look like.
Agreed.... Look, there's nothing wrong with articles and such but as stated we don't have to rely on every word said.... It's just an article, it gave me a few minutes of read time and that's it...
 
Josh Pickell is always pumping up every fan base for likes and subs.
 
Nah. Not really. You're seeing it right now but y'all wanna keep changing the bar yourselfs... People here wanna keep forgetting what this university has been about since forever. There's been ZERO investment in the programS here in God knows how long. We haven't taken out facilities seriously, we haven't taken out campus seriously, we haven't taken out coaches seriously and as a result we've become what we have... Now come to campus and tell me that's what's going on. The campus has undergone a night and day flip in the last ten years or so far as a serious facelift has gone. From the dorms,to our class rooms,etc. Our facilities have FINALLY been something the university has committed to and in a HUGE WAY. We are competing with virtually EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY. None of this matters to y'all though. Before it was we won't do this, we won't do that,we won't spend on this, we won't spend for that, our facilities are still in the stone ages... **** y'all want for you to understand IT'S A PROCESS... from top to bottom were coming into a new day. We have a proven coach who has turned around a power 5 program and made them 2x conference champs under his several years there. He won a rose bowl in his several years there. He took a program that was nothing and made them a perennial contender whether y'all wanna admit it or not. The man JUST GOT HERE AND HAS PLAYED ONE SEASON with a team that was built for deception and with holes throughout. Give it a ****** break... He hired people who were widely respected all throughout on staff & hindsight yes it most certainly was a disaster. We ALL RECOGNIZE THAT. What was his response? He burnt that **** to the ground and started over with only the pieces that did work just like ALL OF YALL wanted. Now the complaint is oh we must be broke after all and we went and did all of this just off one dudes empty promises and checkbook. No matter how many people tell y'all that you wrong it doesn't matter. So I'm sorry but when you say you gotta see it well what exactly are you looking at? You're seeing it day after day after day. You're seeing monumental progress throughout but you see everything through a lense of what we used to be. Well reality says you don't go from burger king to Delmonico or Christie's over night... You wake up and grind & that's what were doing. Y'all fans just don't wanna take part in the process. People wanna ***** and moan like the rest of this miserable society. I'm sorry but perfection is a process. Subscribe to it or just go elsewhere in the meantime. But it would help if some of y'all would simply either take a step back publicly and allow the man to work or simply be supportive to the process and understand these people at the very least DESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW WHO THEY ARE... #fullmeltdownmode
All that’s fine and all but we can acknowledge the unprecedented investment in the program , while also recognizing we shouldn’t need all that to not get embarrassed by MTSU at home . If the staff believes that , then we’re cooked already . Western Kentucky and UTSA seemed to figure it out

If you saw me personally making any of those claims about how none of what’s been going on off the field matters , by all means call me out . But my post history will show I haven’t , so now you’re just making a lot of assumptions about people you don’t know to excuse what happened on the actual field right in front of our eyes .

So I guess when I say I gotta see it , I mean I gotta see us beat the MTSUs of the world and beat less talented ACC teams consistently
 
Nah. Not really. You're seeing it right now but y'all wanna keep changing the bar yourselfs... People here wanna keep forgetting what this university has been about since forever. There's been ZERO investment in the programS here in God knows how long. We haven't taken out facilities seriously, we haven't taken out campus seriously, we haven't taken out coaches seriously and as a result we've become what we have... Now come to campus and tell me that's what's going on. The campus has undergone a night and day flip in the last ten years or so far as a serious facelift has gone. From the dorms,to our class rooms,etc. Our facilities have FINALLY been something the university has committed to and in a HUGE WAY. We are competing with virtually EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY. None of this matters to y'all though. Before it was we won't do this, we won't do that,we won't spend on this, we won't spend for that, our facilities are still in the stone ages... **** y'all want for you to understand IT'S A PROCESS... from top to bottom were coming into a new day. We have a proven coach who has turned around a power 5 program and made them 2x conference champs under his several years there. He won a rose bowl in his several years there. He took a program that was nothing and made them a perennial contender whether y'all wanna admit it or not. The man JUST GOT HERE AND HAS PLAYED ONE SEASON with a team that was built for deception and with holes throughout. Give it a ****** break... He hired people who were widely respected all throughout on staff & hindsight yes it most certainly was a disaster. We ALL RECOGNIZE THAT. What was his response? He burnt that **** to the ground and started over with only the pieces that did work just like ALL OF YALL wanted. Now the complaint is oh we must be broke after all and we went and did all of this just off one dudes empty promises and checkbook. No matter how many people tell y'all that you wrong it doesn't matter. So I'm sorry but when you say you gotta see it well what exactly are you looking at? You're seeing it day after day after day. You're seeing monumental progress throughout but you see everything through a lense of what we used to be. Well reality says you don't go from burger king to Delmonico or Christie's over night... You wake up and grind & that's what were doing. Y'all fans just don't wanna take part in the process. People wanna ***** and moan like the rest of this miserable society. I'm sorry but perfection is a process. Subscribe to it or just go elsewhere in the meantime. But it would help if some of y'all would simply either take a step back publicly and allow the man to work or simply be supportive to the process and understand these people at the very least DESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW WHO THEY ARE... #fullmeltdownmode


What a great ******* post. I forgive you for the lack of paragraph breaks. Pure genius.
 
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Nah. Not really. You're seeing it right now but y'all wanna keep changing the bar yourselfs... People here wanna keep forgetting what this university has been about since forever. There's been ZERO investment in the programS here in God knows how long. We haven't taken out facilities seriously, we haven't taken out campus seriously, we haven't taken out coaches seriously and as a result we've become what we have... Now come to campus and tell me that's what's going on. The campus has undergone a night and day flip in the last ten years or so far as a serious facelift has gone. From the dorms,to our class rooms,etc. Our facilities have FINALLY been something the university has committed to and in a HUGE WAY. We are competing with virtually EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY. None of this matters to y'all though. Before it was we won't do this, we won't do that,we won't spend on this, we won't spend for that, our facilities are still in the stone ages... **** y'all want for you to understand IT'S A PROCESS... from top to bottom were coming into a new day. We have a proven coach who has turned around a power 5 program and made them 2x conference champs under his several years there. He won a rose bowl in his several years there. He took a program that was nothing and made them a perennial contender whether y'all wanna admit it or not. The man JUST GOT HERE AND HAS PLAYED ONE SEASON with a team that was built for deception and with holes throughout. Give it a ****** break... He hired people who were widely respected all throughout on staff & hindsight yes it most certainly was a disaster. We ALL RECOGNIZE THAT. What was his response? He burnt that **** to the ground and started over with only the pieces that did work just like ALL OF YALL wanted. Now the complaint is oh we must be broke after all and we went and did all of this just off one dudes empty promises and checkbook. No matter how many people tell y'all that you wrong it doesn't matter. So I'm sorry but when you say you gotta see it well what exactly are you looking at? You're seeing it day after day after day. You're seeing monumental progress throughout but you see everything through a lense of what we used to be. Well reality says you don't go from burger king to Delmonico or Christie's over night... You wake up and grind & that's what were doing. Y'all fans just don't wanna take part in the process. People wanna ***** and moan like the rest of this miserable society. I'm sorry but perfection is a process. Subscribe to it or just go elsewhere in the meantime. But it would help if some of y'all would simply either take a step back publicly and allow the man to work or simply be supportive to the process and understand these people at the very least DESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW WHO THEY ARE... #fullmeltdownmode
Sure, he burned it all down. He's playing with house money. He not only screwed up last year, he screwed up worse than any coach I have ever seen here. Randy Shannon beats the brakes off of MTSU. So does Al Golden, Mark Richt, and Manny freakin' Diaz. What we saw last year was a bad, bad football coach losing to teams vastly less talented everywhere but the sidelines.

Can he improve? Sure. But let's stop acting like a couple decent seasons in a weak Pac makes him some great coach. If he was a Wyoming alum, he'd have no support at all.
 
All that’s fine and all but we can acknowledge the unprecedented investment in the program , while also recognizing we shouldn’t need all that to not get embarrassed by MTSU at home . If the staff believes that , then we’re cooked already . Western Kentucky and UTSA seemed to figure it out

If you saw me personally making any of those claims about how none of what’s been going on off the field matters , by all means call me out . But my post history will show I haven’t , so now you’re just making a lot of assumptions about people you don’t know to excuse what happened on the actual field right in front of our eyes .

So I guess when I say I gotta see it , I mean I gotta see us beat the MTSUs of the world and beat less talented ACC teams consistently
I'm not speaking with JUST YOU I know I obviously was responding to you but I was speaking in general. Again no one is accepting of losing to mtsu or anything else from last season nor should WE be. You know who else wasn't? That would be Mario. The man who fired everyone at the end of the season. You know when that wasn't valid? When we were getting mud stomped by fiu,by east Carolina,by duke & God knows who else. When our last year in the orange bowl everyone and everyone ran a train on us & **** near every single year since we've gotten embarrassed on a national stage... That's been our reality. Well now everyone from the top down is TRYING TO CORRECT THIS. That doesn't happen day #1 it doesn't necessarily happen year #1 just like it didn't under butch. We were a joke within two years when I first got here and thats because we didn't have anything that enabled us to compete. We got the right pieces in and we grew together day by day month by month year by year. So allow us the time to grow if you actually wanna see this team get better. It is that simple. It's not some overnight thing.
 
Nah. Not really. You're seeing it right now but y'all wanna keep changing the bar yourselfs... People here wanna keep forgetting what this university has been about since forever. There's been ZERO investment in the programS here in God knows how long. We haven't taken out facilities seriously, we haven't taken out campus seriously, we haven't taken out coaches seriously and as a result we've become what we have... Now come to campus and tell me that's what's going on. The campus has undergone a night and day flip in the last ten years or so far as a serious facelift has gone. From the dorms,to our class rooms,etc. Our facilities have FINALLY been something the university has committed to and in a HUGE WAY. We are competing with virtually EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY. None of this matters to y'all though. Before it was we won't do this, we won't do that,we won't spend on this, we won't spend for that, our facilities are still in the stone ages... **** y'all want for you to understand IT'S A PROCESS... from top to bottom were coming into a new day. We have a proven coach who has turned around a power 5 program and made them 2x conference champs under his several years there. He won a rose bowl in his several years there. He took a program that was nothing and made them a perennial contender whether y'all wanna admit it or not. The man JUST GOT HERE AND HAS PLAYED ONE SEASON with a team that was built for deception and with holes throughout. Give it a ****** break... He hired people who were widely respected all throughout on staff & hindsight yes it most certainly was a disaster. We ALL RECOGNIZE THAT. What was his response? He burnt that **** to the ground and started over with only the pieces that did work just like ALL OF YALL wanted. Now the complaint is oh we must be broke after all and we went and did all of this just off one dudes empty promises and checkbook. No matter how many people tell y'all that you wrong it doesn't matter. So I'm sorry but when you say you gotta see it well what exactly are you looking at? You're seeing it day after day after day. You're seeing monumental progress throughout but you see everything through a lense of what we used to be. Well reality says you don't go from burger king to Delmonico or Christie's over night... You wake up and grind & that's what were doing. Y'all fans just don't wanna take part in the process. People wanna ***** and moan like the rest of this miserable society. I'm sorry but perfection is a process. Subscribe to it or just go elsewhere in the meantime. But it would help if some of y'all would simply either take a step back publicly and allow the man to work or simply be supportive to the process and understand these people at the very least DESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW WHO THEY ARE... #fullmeltdownmode
PREACH!!!
 
Sure, he burned it all down. He's playing with house money. He not only screwed up last year, he screwed up worse than any coach I have ever seen here. Randy Shannon beats the brakes off of MTSU. So does Al Golden, Mark Richt, and Manny freakin' Diaz. What we saw last year was a bad, bad football coach losing to teams vastly less talented everywhere but the sidelines.

Can he improve? Sure. But let's stop acting like a couple decent seasons in a weak Pac makes him some great coach. If he was a Wyoming alum, he'd have no support at all.
That weak pac has been far stronger top to bottom than the acc in that same time span. But I'm not here to argue. You're also being nowhere near accurate. But I get it everyone has short term memory when they're not truly affected the same. But I was either on the field or on the sideline to witness plenty of those embarrassing losses. Program defining losses at that. So pardon me when I call bull**** on that. You won't ever here me say we weren't far more talented athletically in virtually all of these losses either of us are speaking about. But one thing sports has proven to me over and over is it's not always the superior specimen that takes **** down. The sideline and development has been just as big if not bigger of a problem throughout all of these years. Competing egos, hidden agendas,etc. Honestly I could go on and on. But why bother.you go with your feeling and I'll go with mine. Like I say to everyone who feels this way right now then I genuinely hope and pray that y'all will kick rocks and go cheat for someone else. Cause we don't need more fairweather fans around. Do what you wish on some message board but I really hope y'all don't support this university anymore cause as y'all say we just don't care 🧤
 
The reset button ain't working. Someone try this:

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That weak pac has been far stronger top to bottom than the acc in that same time span. But I'm not here to argue. You're also being nowhere near accurate. But I get it everyone has short term memory when they're not truly affected the same. But I was either on the field or on the sideline to witness plenty of those embarrassing losses. Program defining losses at that. So pardon me when I call bull**** on that. You won't ever here me say we weren't far more talented athletically in virtually all of these losses either of us are speaking about. But one thing sports has proven to me over and over is it's not always the superior specimen that takes **** down. The sideline and development has been just as big if not bigger of a problem throughout all of these years. Competing egos, hidden agendas,etc. Honestly I could go on and on. But why bother.you go with your feeling and I'll go with mine. Like I say to everyone who feels this way right now then I genuinely hope and pray that y'all will kick rocks and go cheat for someone else. Cause we don't need more fairweather fans around. Do what you wish on some message board but I really hope y'all don't support this university anymore cause as y'all say we just don't care 🧤
Many have never been on campus so they have no perspective. Just the changes when my son got there in 2018 to when he graduated in 2022 are significant from an infrastructure perspective. The campus in 3 years is going to be unbelievable.

Most of these folks are casual fans. They don't invest in the university, don't have season tickets and almost never go to games.
 
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It’s fair to say “I’ll believe it when I see it” especially as a Miami fan though, isn’t it ?
Not when it comes to recruiting. There is enough data out there that shows he is an excellent recruiter. We shouldnt need him to prove it before we believe it and maybe give him a little rope here

On every other part of this program though, **** yes. An “Ill believe it when I see it”attitude is completely warranted considering the product weve seen for too many years…including and especially last year. Im done believing reports and Greentree hoopla. Show me.
 
That weak pac has been far stronger top to bottom than the acc in that same time span. But I'm not here to argue. You're also being nowhere near accurate. But I get it everyone has short term memory when they're not truly affected the same. But I was either on the field or on the sideline to witness plenty of those embarrassing losses. Program defining losses at that. So pardon me when I call bull**** on that. You won't ever here me say we weren't far more talented athletically in virtually all of these losses either of us are speaking about. But one thing sports has proven to me over and over is it's not always the superior specimen that takes **** down. The sideline and development has been just as big if not bigger of a problem throughout all of these years. Competing egos, hidden agendas,etc. Honestly I could go on and on. But why bother.you go with your feeling and I'll go with mine. Like I say to everyone who feels this way right now then I genuinely hope and pray that y'all will kick rocks and go cheat for someone else. Cause we don't need more fairweather fans around. Do what you wish on some message board but I really hope y'all don't support this university anymore cause as y'all say we just don't care 🧤
Fairweather? Man, if that were the case, I would have left a long time ago. Going on 42 years as a fan.

I think the best coaches are those who can out coach the man on the other sideline. We don't look for great coaches, but rather coaches who have ties to UM. I have a problem with that. You don't. You do you.
 
Fairweather? Man, if that were the case, I would have left a long time ago. Going on 42 years as a fan.

I think the best coaches are those who can out coach the man on the other sideline. We don't look for great coaches, but rather coaches who have ties to UM. I have a problem with that. You don't. You do you.
if youre still here rooting for a team that hasn't been relevant nationally since 2004, you aren't a fairweather fan. no one hops on to support a mediocre program.
 
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