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REALIGNMENT MEGGGGAAAA THREAAAD

NC_Canes_11 said:
Why would Clemson leave? The have the ACC by the nuts right now. They have all the leverage and an easy path to the playoff every year. They use the opening weekend as a big test, ala UGA this year. Why would they jeopardize that success? Don’t forget they have negative value across every other sport. Idk that they are worth the money it would take them to leave.
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Smartest post on Clemson on the whole thread....they own the ACC and recruit at will, so no reason to go anywhere
 
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gacaneaddict said:
Now if you add Texas and OU, the above schools chances of ever winning anything goes from 10-11 % to .0000001%.
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Texas and OU chances of winning go down the drain. Both schools have a hard time walking through what some call a scrub conference getting beat by the likes of Kansas St but their going to do well in the SEC.


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WeBallinBoyz said:
Looks like Texas and OU won't happen til 2025 at the earliest, per their joint statement.
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That's what they're saying but they'll separate much faster than that, and OU and Texas know it. Zero chance the Big 12 allows this black cloud to hover over them for 4 years. They need to move on to the next chapter. You don't wait around. The lawyers (always the real winners) will work out a settlement to allow for separation quickly.

If your wife came to you and said she found a better man and was divorcing you, but it would take 4 years and she was gonna live on your house until then, would you let her stay? **** no. You show her the door, work out the details and move on.
 
I have already mentioned that the BIG12 and ht PAC12 are in a really bad position right now, unless the PAC12 makes some sort of power move...and all of the talk about the AAU schools will end up being irrelevant sooner or later.

It is currently just a ploy to make sure the other institutions do not begin to entertain expansion talks from other conferences (SEC)

The BIG10 has almost always been the most arrogant conference there is...but the SEC is throwing the weight around right now....trust me this started with CFP, then of course factor in coaches pay, NIL...etc., etc., but the money is and has been flowing. Why do you think the media deals are so large and are negotiated regularly...as needed, lol?

The latest talk about the CFP expansion and NIL are really a huge part of all of this
 
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S.CarolinaCane said:
I have already mentioned that the BIG12 and ht PAC12 are in a really bad position right now, unless the PAC12 makes some sort of power move...and all of the talk about the AAU schools will end up being irrelevant sooner or later.

It is currently just a ploy to make sure the other institutions do not begin to entertain expansion talks from other conferences (SEC)

The BIG10 has almost always been the most arrogant conference there is...but the SEC is throwing the weight around right now....trust me this started with CFP, then of course factor in coaches pay, NIL...etc., etc., but the money is and has been flowing. Why do you think the media deals are so large and are negotiated regularly...as needed, lol?

The latest talk about the CFP expansion and NIL are really a huge part of all of this
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ACC/ PAC 12 self preservation plan.........Here you go:

Two Divisions EAST/WEST (ACC/PAC 12)

EAST Division consists of the entire ACC (ACC kicks out 2 teams or expands to 14 games)
West Division consists of the entire PAC 12 (PAC 12 adds 2 teams or stays the same)

The East Division plays all other East Division teams and their is a Division Champ
The West Division plays all other West Division teams and their is a Division Champ

East Division and West Division Champs face each other on a neutral field at the end of the year to name a Conference Champion
 
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gacaneaddict said:
Why would SEC schools like South Carolina, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Arkansas, Kentucky, Missouri, and of course Texas A&M sign off on this?

The SEC wouldn't have to do anything, and still rake in the $$$$. Now if you add Texas and OU, the above schools chances of ever winning anything goes from 10-11 % to .0000001%.
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Revenue sharing. Lower tier schools benefit from a playoff that has: Bama, LSU, OU and maybe a non SEC school in it. More $$$ for doing nothing.
 
NC_Canes_11 said:
Why would Clemson leave? The have the ACC by the nuts right now. They have all the leverage and an easy path to the playoff every year. They use the opening weekend as a big test, ala UGA this year. Why would they jeopardize that success? Don’t forget they have negative value across every other sport. Idk that they are worth the money it would take them to leave.
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SEC/ESPN prorated $$$$ contract money is why.
 
Hot take:

If anyone read the book Ford vs Ferrari, it explained that Enzo Ferrari and the Ferrari racing team were facing harsh criticism at home because of the death of several drivers in crashes. When the time came and he spurned Bill Ford by saying the Ferrari racing team will alway be under Italian control, he enjoyed a resurgence in popularity. Ford fans got offended and support for Ford racing surged as well.

Big 12 is Ferrari, UT/OU are Enzo and the SEC is Ford.
 
Texas and OU joining the $EC isn’t about winning NCs. They already have that opportunity by winning the Big 12 and qualifying for the CFP.

$EC expansion is all about money, and both programs bring in more revenue. In a generation of mergers and acquisitions ‘enough is never enough’. This is no different than one business acquiring another.

The only changes that improve the CFB landscape for fans are those trying to create real parity.
 
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This could be the thing that finally fixes college football, but not in the way most people think. Football can split into the SEC where the players are legally classified as paid professionals (this simply recognizes the fact that they have been paying high school recruits hundreds of thousands for many years now) who are "affiliated" with a college and a "National Super Conference of Amateur Athletes" of all the non SEC teams where the focus is actually on supporting and developing college amateur student-athletes.

As I said in a previous post, there should be a salary cap on total compensation for a coaching staff in the new collegiate super conference. Could be a hard cap or a soft cap, where if a deep pocketed program goes over the total compensation, they get hit with a massive luxury tax and have to pay a huge percentage to all the other teams. The conference enforcement will basically be former IRS auditors who are looking at sneaky ways that coaches get compensation (total compensation, not just salary) . Players are still eligible for NIL, but they also get focused education on marketing and investing.

Let the SEC become a college-affiliated XFL. They can call themselves the KKKFL. And just like with the XFL, most football fans don't want to watch a ****tier professional football so they will eventually wither away and die.

The rest of the country will watch the collegiate superconference games and CFB will go back to what it intended to be: focused on actual student-athletes instead of this farce we have today where a couple teams buy recruits and can out spend other programs by orders of magnitude.

When Bama wins their SEC championship for the 15th straight year and makes noise that they want to play the NSCAA champ to prove who is the undisputed national champ, the NSCAA should tell the SEC to f#ck off and that having amateur student athletes play against paid professionals doesn't make any sense.

In terms of bringing the SEC to its knees, nothing will make their teams capitulate faster than the rest of cfb collectively agreeing that they are going to create an independent collegiate association free of the SEC and that a league without spending limits on coaching in order to level the playing field is illegitimate and will not be recognized as an amateur college football national champ. It's not some kind of remarkable feat for college programs that have

130 million in net profit
11 million dollar a year coach,
assistant coaches making 3+ million a year
60 analysts who are former head coaches
boosters that pay 5 star HS recruits hundreds of thousands of dollars

To beat smaller universities with 1/10 the resources for a national championship. Sorry, I'm not that impressed with buying a national championship trophy.
 
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TimeBum said:
This could be the thing that finally fixes college football, but not in the way most people think. Football can split into the SEC where the players are legally classified as paid professionals (this simply recognizes the fact that they have been paying high school recruits hundreds of thousands for many years now) who are affiliated with a college and a "National Super Conference of Amateur Athletes" of all the non SEC teams where the focus is actually on supporting and developing college amateur student-athletes.

As I said in a previous post, there should be a salary cap on total compensation for a coaching staff in the new collegiate super conference. Could be a hard cap or a soft cap, where if a deep pocketed program goes over the total compensation, they get hit with a massive luxury tax and have to pay a huge percentage to all the other teams. The conference enforcement will basically be former IRS auditors who are looking at sneaky ways that coaches get compensation (total compensation, not just salary) . Players are still eligible for NIL, but they also get focused education on marketing and investing.

Let the SEC become a college-affiliated XFL. They can call themselves the KKKFL. And just like with the XFL, most football fans don't want to watch a ****tier professional football so they will eventually wither away and die.

The rest of the country will watch the collegiate superconference games and CFB will go back to what it intended to be: focused on actual student-athletes instead of this farce we have today where a couple teams buy recruits and can out spend other programs by orders of magnitude.

When Bama wins their SEC championship for the 15th straight year and makes noise that they want to play the NSCAA champ to prove who is the undisputed national champ, the NSCAA should tell the SEC to f#ck off and that having amateur student athletes play against paid professionals doesn't make any sense.
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Interesting concept.

Would bag droppers that play by the SEC rules you outlined but aren't (yet) actual members of the SEC have to align with the "KKKFL" as well?

Think we'd all agree FSU, Clemson, Oregon (and no doubt there are others) are fully committed to that business model.

I'm trying to figure which teams (that UM fans give a **** about) would be left for us to play in this "NSCAA"
 
Canes1968 said:
Last I checked, Oklahoma state law requires approval of the state legislature in order for OU to go anywhere without OSU, so unless they got some kind of secret approval from the Oklahoma legislature (hint: they didn't), I'm going to say this is BS.
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No it was more of a gentleman's agreement.
 
TimeBum said:
This could be the thing that finally fixes college football, but not in the way most people think. Football can split into the SEC where the players are legally classified as paid professionals (this simply recognizes the fact that they have been paying high school recruits hundreds of thousands for many years now) who are affiliated with a college and a "National Super Conference of Amateur Athletes" of all the non SEC teams where the focus is actually on supporting and developing college amateur student-athletes.

As I said in a previous post, there should be a salary cap on total compensation for a coaching staff in the new collegiate super conference. Could be a hard cap or a soft cap, where if a deep pocketed program goes over the total compensation, they get hit with a massive luxury tax and have to pay a huge percentage to all the other teams. The conference enforcement will basically be former IRS auditors who are looking at sneaky ways that coaches get compensation (total compensation, not just salary) . Players are still eligible for NIL, but they also get focused education on marketing and investing.

Let the SEC become a college-affiliated XFL. They can call themselves the KKKFL. And just like with the XFL, most football fans don't want to watch a ****tier professional football so they will eventually wither away and die.

The rest of the country will watch the collegiate superconference games and CFB will go back to what it intended to be: focused on actual student-athletes instead of this farce we have today where a couple teams buy recruits and can out spend other programs by orders of magnitude.

When Bama wins their SEC championship for the 15th straight year and makes noise that they want to play the NSCAA champ to prove who is the undisputed national champ, the NSCAA should tell the SEC to f#ck off and that having amateur student athletes play against paid professionals doesn't make any sense.
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Coaches will never agree to a salary cap. Programs already circumvent the limit on the number of coaches with analysts. And, there is no evidence of ROI in paying higher salaries equating to success. Michigan pays (or was paying) Harbaugh and staff as much as any program. They still can’t beat Ohio State.

Parity can only be improved by conferences realizing parity benefits all programs. NFL teams compete on the field but the owners know the league is healthier when all teams have an equal opportunity to succeed. This does not guarantee equal outcomes, of course. The Detroit Lions, Cincinnati Bengals, and NY Jets have the same opportunities to hire quality coaches and draft/sign players. Unfortunately for their fans the organization can’t make the right choices.

IMO, a reduction in scholarships is key. Does a team really need 85 players, plus non-scholarship walk-ons? Reduce scholarships to 70, or 65, and more programs have access to the talent pool. You would need checks and balances to ensure boosters aren’t paying the bills to stash a top recruit as a walk-on, but that can be done.
 
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Canes1968 said:
No, Okie State is not screwed. Oklahoma law prevents OU from going to another conference without Okie State, so OU isn't going anywhere unless they can convince the state legislature to change state law.
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not true, there is no loaw on the books preventing that, it was a "gentleman's agreement" which is far from binding.
 
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