Real Question

[GoldenOfrio Sucks]

Go to bed Al.

 

[TroubleChunks]

There's no arguing with this guy

He knows it all ... He is too blind to see facts on paper
Period

You're right man, it's 100% on the coaches. We have no other problems. Just coaching and skeemz. If you fired Al Golden tomorrow and replaced him with any HC with a pulse, we would win the MNC next year guaranteed.

We would've won at least 10 more games last year if we would've stopped "playing patty cake" and played more press man coverage. And MOAR nickel looks.

What was I thinking, that there might be a lot of things wrong with this program beyond the coach..... psshhh lol fuggdat it's 100 PERCENT COACHING. FLY A BANNER.


Lol. Idiots.

"Coaching" in the college game encompasses a lot more than scheme design, play calling, and teaching technique. The head coach draws the contours of the whole program. If there's something "beyond the coach," you're talking about deep infrastructure stuff -- we don't have an on-campus stadium (and lost the Orange Bowl), or we don't have a proper practice facility, or other stuff where the coach simply isn't allowed to act on his own.

But "the players all quit" is very much something that's part of the coach's job. If you can only get your players to execute when things are going well, you're not good at that job. You don't get to play bad teams every week, but every time Al's team comes up against a decent team, there's been a moment where the team checks out. And after that moment passed in the FSU game, the team never turned back on. The coach must be able to address that, or you might as well just let the players (not) coach themselves.

If you can point to something over the last ten years that has made the teams bad that's actually "beyond the coaching," do so. But it looks to me like Miami has hired three bad coaches in a row, and just needs to stop doing that.

 

[GonzoCane]

I have no idea what you're asking.

We all agree Golden doesn't want to be here, correct? If he has another dumpster fire year, he can forget ever coaching at a D1 school ever again. So I'm asking, do you think that this pressure will force his hand to go all out to have a good year so he'll have a little bit more luster to his name and become a commodity on the coaching front again?

How is he suddenly going to be a good coach?

This. I'm sure that Al would PREFER to win football games. He just can't. Maybe he was a little depressed, detached, etc. in 2014 because his heart had already relocated to Penn State. But the idea that he COULD have been winning a bunch more games if he'd just been trying a little harder doesn't sound right to me. He's just not good, and it's not for lack of trying.

He is, what his record says he is.

 

[TroubleChunks]

I have no idea what you're asking.

We all agree Golden doesn't want to be here, correct? If he has another dumpster fire year, he can forget ever coaching at a D1 school ever again. So I'm asking, do you think that this pressure will force his hand to go all out to have a good year so he'll have a little bit more luster to his name and become a commodity on the coaching front again?

How is he suddenly going to be a good coach?

This. I'm sure that Al would PREFER to win football games. He just can't. Maybe he was a little depressed, detached, etc. in 2014 because his heart had already relocated to Penn State. But the idea that he COULD have been winning a bunch more games if he'd just been trying a little harder doesn't sound right to me. He's just not good, and it's not for lack of trying.

He is, what his record says he is.

Well, he's also fat and sweaty.

 

[Gatorhater]

I know I'm in the minority on this one... but I actually think Golden will get it turned around at Miami. I think he'll succeed reasonably well here, and go on to another head coaching job.

Two years ago we won 9 games. Last year, we were in every game we played, and the only reason for our record IMO is that the team quit on the coaches and on each other after the FSU game. That should have been a 9/10 win season. We didn't only win 6 because of coaching, that happened because our players gave up. It is what it is.

Next year, we'll be even more talented than last year. I think a 10 win, ACC type season is very possible. And if that happens, you add in the 2016 class, and we've got this thing pointed in the right direction FINALLY.

Maybe that's just my over-optimism, but I could see it playing out that way.

The greatest possible failure of a HC is having his team quit on him. These are Al's players and they quick two year in a row after FSU game. This year they quit completely. We saw this with Randy but with Al it is ever worse.

 

[Supercane85]

I know I'm in the minority on this one... but I actually think Golden will get it turned around at Miami. I think he'll succeed reasonably well here, and go on to another head coaching job.

Two years ago we won 9 games. Last year, we were in every game we played, and the only reason for our record IMO is that the team quit on the coaches and on each other after the FSU game. That should have been a 9/10 win season. We didn't only win 6 because of coaching, that happened because our players gave up. It is what it is.

Next year, we'll be even more talented than last year. I think a 10 win, ACC type season is very possible. And if that happens, you add in the 2016 class, and we've got this thing pointed in the right direction FINALLY.

Maybe that's just my over-optimism, but I could see it playing out that way.

So because we won 9 games last year, you think he'll turn it around? You realize that those 9 wins were smoke and mirrors, right? Struggling to beat UF and Wake, at home, no less. Non-conf games of Savannah St and FAU. It was a sham. It was exposed by Louisville in the bowl.

This past year, the schedule was even easier. And we performed worse. The team next year will be less talented.

So yes, it is your over-optimism. Al Golden is not a good coach. Period.

9 wins is 9 wins.... and the Louisville team we lost to was better than it was given credit for. I think they finished 11-1 or something.

The only "mirage" was losing 7 games last year. That only happened because the team quit. That team should have won 9-10 games.

Anytime you say your "team should have won" to explain a seasons success it is probably time to fire the Coach.

 

[hoops156]

First and foremost, I've been one of the most vocal Golden hater on this board. However, I have a question...do you think the pressure for Golden to succeed here finally comes to fruition as a means for him to get another gig elsewhere?

whatever motivation he has to improve the W/L record is fine w me. i could care less who is coaching the team as long as were winning games. I'm a fan of the school and team not the coach. big bird could be the HC and if were winning, i wouldn't care less.

 

[DaU83]

My biggest issue with al is his conservative nature. We're up 23 -10 against fsu and we go into our prevent offense/defense etc. Fsu got some lucky bounces, but they wouldn't have mattered as much if we had tried to pour it on instead of protecting our tiny lead. That loss killed the rest of the season.

 

[MIA42178]

golden will never be a head coach in division 1 football again

He knows he is toast at the high level and is cashing in one last year of big boy paychecks. He will be in the same boat as Bo Pelini that could get a head job at a non Power 5 school

Except Pelini was successful at a big program and Golden flat out fcking sucks.
Golden might get a position gig at UVA but that's his ceiling

 

[Rellyrell]

There's no arguing with this guy

He knows it all ... He is too blind to see facts on paper
Period

You're right man, it's 100% on the coaches. We have no other problems. Just coaching and skeemz. If you fired Al Golden tomorrow and replaced him with any HC with a pulse, we would win the MNC next year guaranteed.

We would've won at least 10 more games last year if we would've stopped "playing patty cake" and played more press man coverage. And MOAR nickel looks.

What was I thinking, that there might be a lot of things wrong with this program beyond the coach..... psshhh lol fuggdat it's 100 PERCENT COACHING. FLY A BANNER.


Lol. Idiots.

@ Beef Stew: Would you not agree that coaching involves making sure that half-time adjustments are made?

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Beef Stew stepped in it in that other thread and now is forced to defend an undefendable position.

That's what you get for trying to be an contrarian just for the sake of being contrarian. It's something you see guys like Bill Maher do all the time. Then they end up looking like ******* idiots instead of the brilliant logicians that they envision themselves to be.

 

[The Franchise]

I have no idea what you're asking.

We all agree Golden doesn't want to be here, correct? If he has another dumpster fire year, he can forget ever coaching at a D1 school ever again. So I'm asking, do you think that this pressure will force his hand to go all out to have a good year so he'll have a little bit more luster to his name and become a commodity on the coaching front again?

How is he suddenly going to be a good coach?

Based on his explanation of his previously convoluted question, I guess Relly thinks that Folden's failing because he hasn't tried hard enough yet. If he tries harder this year because his future is on the line he will succeed.

LULZ at the **** I read on here.

 

[The Franchise]

Saddest thing is I'm reading real UM fans like Par and others trying hard to explain that our 9 wins in 2013 were a mirage. Even if we had 9 convincing wins, we still lost 4 fcking games. Since when did UM fans get the idea that 9-4 is some sort of accomplishment?

Fcking pathetic what's happened when I'm seeing staunch UM fans accepting the flawed premise that 9-4 is great and then trying to explain how our monumental accomplishment of winning 9 games wasn't as great as it seems. 9-4 is fcking pathetic at UM. That's all you need to say.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Al Gorlden is the worst corch in the Power 5.

Playing in the worst division in the Power 5.

Corching a school that is smack dab in the undisputed #1 premier recruiting grounds on the whole planet.

Al Gorlden is well spoken and clean cut. Being well spoken and clean cut is more important for a head corch at Miami than actually winning football games.

 

[Canes305]

Saddest thing is I'm reading real UM fans like Par and others trying hard to explain that our 9 wins in 2013 were a mirage. Even if we had 9 convincing wins, we still lost 4 fcking games. Since when did UM fans get the idea that 9-4 is some sort of accomplishment?

Fcking pathetic what's happened when I'm seeing staunch UM fans accepting the flawed premise that 9-4 is great and then trying to explain how our monumental accomplishment of winning 9 games wasn't as great as it seems. 9-4 is fcking pathetic at UM. That's all you need to say.

Think about it though. Anyone that is younger than 30 years old doesn't truly understand how dominant this team was back in the 80's and 90's. Other than seeing it on youtube or on Corben's movies, they really didn't experience it first hand.

9-4 (to some) is perfectly okay..

 

[Rellyrell]

I have no idea what you're asking.

We all agree Golden doesn't want to be here, correct? If he has another dumpster fire year, he can forget ever coaching at a D1 school ever again. So I'm asking, do you think that this pressure will force his hand to go all out to have a good year so he'll have a little bit more luster to his name and become a commodity on the coaching front again?

How is he suddenly going to be a good coach?

Based on his explanation of his previously convoluted question, I guess Relly thinks that Folden's failing because he hasn't tried hard enough yet. If he tries harder this year because his future is on the line he will succeed.

LULZ at the **** I read on here.

@ Franchise: Asked a question, didn't say I thought anything, pot-nah. The reason why I asked that question is b/c when we were calling for his head at the beginning of the season, all of sudden the defense amped up, were smashing everyone, including FSU for the first 3 qtrs and then Golden became Folden again. He rest his laurels on Moral Victories and he got burned. So I don't think anything, I'm asking for opinions.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

Did Richie Kotite get another job after the Jets gave him the ziggy? Neither will his fat, retarded brother, Al.

 

[The Franchise]

I have no idea what you're asking.

We all agree Golden doesn't want to be here, correct? If he has another dumpster fire year, he can forget ever coaching at a D1 school ever again. So I'm asking, do you think that this pressure will force his hand to go all out to have a good year so he'll have a little bit more luster to his name and become a commodity on the coaching front again?

How is he suddenly going to be a good coach?

Based on his explanation of his previously convoluted question, I guess Relly thinks that Folden's failing because he hasn't tried hard enough yet. If he tries harder this year because his future is on the line he will succeed.

LULZ at the **** I read on here.

@ Franchise: Asked a question, didn't say I thought anything, pot-nah. The reason why I asked that question is b/c when we were calling for his head at the beginning of the season, all of sudden the defense amped up, were smashing everyone, including FSU for the first 3 qtrs and then Golden became Folden again. He rest his laurels on Moral Victories and he got burned. So I don't think anything, I'm asking for opinions.

And while everyone else was celebrating the miraculous metamorphosis of Folden into a genius at midseason, I cautioned people that nothing had actually changed and that we had merely beaten the **** out of some horrible teams. He didn't go from lazy to hard-working and back to lazy during the course of 2014. When you have a team as talented as ours, there will be times when things just happen to click. And that's what happened when we won a few games.

Dudes try too hard to figure this stuff out. Sometimes, coaches suck. There's no need for all this head scratching and wild theories. He's a piece of **** HC. Head football coach is a job just like cook, barber, doctor, etc. Just because you hold the job doesn't mean you're going to be good at it.

 

[OrangetieFatface]

Are some of you serious?

Al Golden didn't start coaching 5 months ago.

He's 55-56 over a nine year span. Jury's not still out, this dude sucks.

There's no excuse that can explain away the 108 month sham that's been Alfred Goldens career.

 

[SWFLSWAGG17]

I have no idea what you're asking.

We all agree Golden doesn't want to be here, correct? If he has another dumpster fire year, he can forget ever coaching at a D1 school ever again. So I'm asking, do you think that this pressure will force his hand to go all out to have a good year so he'll have a little bit more luster to his name and become a commodity on the coaching front again?

How is he suddenly going to be a good coach?

Any chance they taught him common sense game management on that trip to Dallas?