Randy Shannon vs Manny Diaz

[ajkreider]

He's not a more attractive candidate than Shannon was. Your mistake is making this argument:

A is more attractive on paper than B
A sucked.
B will suck even worse.

That is a poor argument. There are scores of counter examples. Troll-harder.

 

[TheRichtShow]

Randy was/is a better DC.. Cant compare beyond that.

not even UF fans would agree. Shannon without Butch's recruits is mediocre

 

[cyrez8]

Personalities. EQ. Passion. Hunger.

 

[SonnyLong]

Then why have Diaz’s defenses looked better than Shannon’s at UF and UCF? Oh, more talent? That’s how Shannon got his name with the early 2000 Canes

Jonathan Taylor is still running.....

 

[TotesMagotes]

What am I missing?

Both their first names are five letters long. (and end in "y")

 

[SonnyLong]

not even UF fans would agree. Shannon without Butch's recruits is mediocre

Manny Diaz without Al Golden's recruits.....?

 

[JHallCanes]

The answer is decision making. Diaz continually modified his defense based on actual results. Diaz got DC offers after being fired as a DC at Texas. It took Shannon 7 years and he is at UCF.

Pretty valid points

 

[Andrew]

Miami was 2nd in total D last year, whereas UCF was 86. I'm riding with Diaz.

 

[SonnyLong]

You seem to want to say Manny will fail because Shannon did.

I explained some of Shannon's errors, errors that Manny is unlikely to make.

So I'm not sure what your point even is here

Manny just hired another friend from la tech.

 

[uprising]

Somebody explain to me how Diaz is a more attractive hire than Shannon was in 2006. What am I missing?

The similarities:

-Both Miami DCs
-Both "Miami guys" (a meaningless quality)
-Both immediately replaced a failed head coach
-Neither had any head coaching experience (let alone P5 head coaching experience)
-Neither had any other P5 HC offers when hired

The differences:

-Randy won NCs as both a player and coach at Miami, Manny did not
-Randy had a reputation for being a strong recruiter in the area, Manny does not
-Randy coached multiple first round picks at Miami, Manny has not

 

[GAhurricane]

Why even cry about this? Manny is our coach now. get over it. b*tch when we start losing games.

 

[Andrew]

Miami was 1st in 3rd down defense, whereas UCF was 94. I am still riding with Diaz.

 

[ajkreider]

Manny just hired another friend from la tech.

Who had a better defense than UCF.

 

[SonnyLong]

not even UF fans would agree. Shannon without Butch's recruits is mediocre

See 2006. No Butch recruits

 

[TheRichtShow]

Manny just hired another friend from la tech.

At least he has friends

 

[tcgrad1014]

Miami was 2nd in total D last year, whereas UCF was 86. I'm riding with Diaz.

If you're going there, then why are we not comparing how Diaz's defenses did at Texas compared to Shannon's at UCF? Isn't the more logical comparison how Diaz's defenses did at Miami compared to how Shannon's defenses did at Miami?

 

[tcgrad1014]

He's not a more attractive candidate than Shannon was. Your mistake is making this argument:

A is more attractive on paper than B
A sucked.
B will suck even worse.

That is a poor argument. There are scores of counter examples. Troll-harder.

I agree.

 

[Ethnicsands]

Somebody explain to me how Diaz is a more attractive hire than Shannon was in 2006. What am I missing?

The similarities:

-Both Miami DCs
-Both "Miami guys" (a meaningless quality)
-Both immediately replaced a failed head coach
-Neither had any head coaching experience (let alone P5 head coaching experience)
-Neither had any other P5 HC offers when hired

The differences:

-Randy won NCs as both a player and coach at Miami, Manny did not
-Randy had a reputation for being a strong recruiter in the area, Manny does not
-Randy coached multiple first round picks at Miami, Manny has not

You are missing common sense, logic and honesty.

 

[SonnyLong]

Average offenses shredded Manny's defenses.

I HOPE BLAKE BETTER IS BETTER.

 

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

Manny actually wants the job.