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turbojenkins said:
@Cribby just said that he would wager everything he owns that Mario already knows the answer.

What part of that doing you guys not understand?

At this point he has all but told us straight up that Miami has chosen is transfer qb. He’s never wavered from his original comment about Miami not needing a qb anymore. Yet so many people are just choosing to go off the deep end.

This is truly fascinating to watch. A real study of human behavior lol.
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NCCanefan said:
I disagree. Second rounders for example have signing bonuses from 1.5 to almost 2 million and and 4 years of salary in the 1.5/yr range. If you think you have a serious shot to move up, then grab the NIL money. If not sure but think you have a chance at the big money that comes after the rookie deal then get out now and start the clock on nfl contract 2
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But unless you are starting and given a chance to develop at the next level there is no magical big second contract payday. You get the neverending chances if and only if they spend a 1st rounder on you. Trey Lance got several opprtunities. Mac Jones got way too many opportunities. Will Levis is only getting his opportunity because the Liberty QB, also not a high draft pick, couldn't play. You either go as a high draft pick early in the 1st round or you have to get a lucky break. Nobody is a back-up for the first 3-4 years and then gets a big 2nd contract.
 
Canenable said:
But unless you are starting and given a chance to develop at the next level there is no magical big second contract payday. You get the neverending chances if and only if they spend a 1st rounder on you. Trey Lance got several opprtunities. Mac Jones got way too many opportunities. Will Levis is only getting his opportunity because the Liberty QB, also not a high draft pick, couldn't play. You either go as a high draft pick early in the 1st round or you have to get a lucky break. Nobody is a back-up for the first 3-4 years and then gets a big 2nd contract.
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That's just not the current nfl reality. Most of the starting qbs are not first rounders
 
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Canenable said:
But unless you are starting and given a chance to develop at the next level there is no magical big second contract payday. You get the neverending chances if and only if they spend a 1st rounder on you. Trey Lance got several opprtunities. Mac Jones got way too many opportunities. Will Levis is only getting his opportunity because the Liberty QB, also not a high draft pick, couldn't play. You either go as a high draft pick early in the 1st round or you have to get a lucky break. Nobody is a back-up for the first 3-4 years and then gets a big 2nd contract.
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Kirk Cousins and his $84 million contract would say otherwise.
 
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CanesSkins26 said:
Kirk Cousins and his $84 million contract would say otherwise.
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The exceptions to the rule do not make the majority of the rule not the reality. Name teams who started the season with a QB that was not a 1st round draft pick, there are a handful at best. If those are the odds you would employ as an agent to coax Cam Ward to go pro now instead of taking guaranteed NIL money then you would be doing him a tremendous disservice.

AFC, Lamar was like the 1st pick in the 2nd round or late 1st. Russell Wilson, Garoppolo for the Raiders, Levis already mentioned
NFC, Dak Prescott, Cousins, Purdy, Howell

These are mostly QB's getting a shot that will flame out. Wilson, Cousins and Prescott, and now Purdy, and that is the basis for thinking if given 7-figure NIL money you should instead hurry to the NFL instead. You think if Purdy had a 7-figure NIL deal he should have jumped to be Mr. Irrelevant instead? Makes no sense, he left because he ran out of eligibility not because he was "betting on himself". The uniqueness of Kirk Cousins and Russell Wilson (both in their 12th seasons) lends you to think Cam Ward would be better served going to the NFL now after a 5-7 season that showed he could run for his life and amassed 2 conference victories in that season is somehow going to have teams killing themselves to get at him to be a backup QB?

I like a good argument, just waiting to hear one, other than a guy 12 years ago did it... OK, 2 guys 12 years ago did it... How many guys don't do it? How many guys could get 7 figures and 1 more year to try and get into the 1st round with an offensive line to block for them? Brock Purdy making $870K this year in base salary. You don't get to pick what team you play for or what kind of situation you find yourself in when you get drafted so you may end up on a team where you never get to play and as a later round pick you might just be let go and can't find another lillypad to land on, if you make the most of your original entry into the league as a QB the path is much different.

Mac Jones shouldn't ever be starting in the NFL, yet he still gets opportunities to try and play the position, if he was a 3rd round pick he would have been gone already, he is making money $15.5MM over 4 years because and only because he was in the 1st round and that is why he still gets a shot against Bailey Zappe who makes $870K this year. Zappe was cut before the season started and has arguably outplayed Jones. Cam Ward would be Bailey Zappe in that equation if he left for the NFL now and he would only get a chance if his team had been dumb enough to select Mac Jones in the 1st round. The Patriots meanwhile will be shopping for a QB in April 2024 and Zappe will be gone and so will Jones perhaps, so much for getting to that second contract quicker.

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