PSU Js Franklin ballas convicted; he will be fired with...

[Cane2]

cause or just for losing next year if he doesn't have significantly better record !

While Texas Longhorns are breathing a sign of relief that they didn't hire Fraiklin who was accused of coddling rapists, http://www.hornsports.com/forums/topic/9530-be-glad-we-didnt-hire-james-franklin/ the folks at PSU truly have eggs in their faces for hiring Franklin instead of Al Golden whose Vanderbilt players have just been convicted of ALL charges related to raping a young lady. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...erdict-guilty-rape-vandenburg-batey/22430567/

Certainly, this is an indictment of James Franklin as well, as he didn't pull an Al Golden move in swiftly kicking these rapists off the team.
While PSU may not have wanted to hire Al Golden since he solicited funds for disgraced Penn State rapist & DC Jerry Sandusky, one wonders how PSU officials feel now that the coach they hired testified in his players trial (while some say not totally truthfully) trial in which they were convicted of rape.

I predict that if Franklin pulls another 4 games losing streaking and another 6-6 regular record he will fired. If he is not fully successful next year, that is winning at less than 10 games, he will be let go... and if one former leading candidate has a successful record at his current University, he will be offered that PSU job that he so covets. Now, shall we root that he wins out next year since this would certainly help out in that he leaves after 2015 on his accord?

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

Franklin won't be fired after just 2 yrs on the job. That sets a bad precedent. PSU needs stability after O'Brien jumped ship in a hurry. And Golden ain't going to PSU.

 

[Canes2082]

So your speculating on what YOU think may happen....

Those are Ped State problems who knows what will happen

 

[gfer1988]

Franklin won't be fired after just 2 yrs on the job. That sets a bad precedent. PSU needs stability after O'Brien jumped ship in a hurry. And Golden ain't going to PSU.

oh that sets a bad precedent? yet hiring a coach accused of protecting rapists on his team just after your program is almost giving the death penalty for protecting a rapist isn't? they've already set a terrible incident by hiring Franklin in the first place.

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

Franklin won't be fired after just 2 yrs on the job. That sets a bad precedent. PSU needs stability after O'Brien jumped ship in a hurry. And Golden ain't going to PSU.

oh that sets a bad precedent? yet hiring a coach accused of protecting rapists on his team just after your program is almost giving the death penalty for protecting a rapist isn't? they've already set a terrible incident by hiring Franklin in the first place.

Has he been charged with anything at all? Nope.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

Even if PSU fired him....they don't have an administration as incompetent as ours.

You'd need an administration of that type of historic incompetence in order for Golden to get another job after he finishes destroying this program.

 

[gfer1988]

Franklin won't be fired after just 2 yrs on the job. That sets a bad precedent. PSU needs stability after O'Brien jumped ship in a hurry. And Golden ain't going to PSU.

oh that sets a bad precedent? yet hiring a coach accused of protecting rapists on his team just after your program is almost giving the death penalty for protecting a rapist isn't? they've already set a terrible incident by hiring Franklin in the first place.

Has he been charged with anything at all? Nope.

Apparently you know nothing about PR. It looks horrible for your brand just based on association. Would you leave your kids with someone who was accused but not convicted of child molestation?

 

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

Horrible thread title.

 

[stormbrewing]

Ped state just got almost ALL the penalties from Sandusky dropped, they are not worried about Vanderbilt problems

 

[TomAce]

Franklin fits right in with the established culture in Happy Valley, look for an extension to be announced shortly.

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

Franklin won't be fired after just 2 yrs on the job. That sets a bad precedent. PSU needs stability after O'Brien jumped ship in a hurry. And Golden ain't going to PSU.

oh that sets a bad precedent? yet hiring a coach accused of protecting rapists on his team just after your program is almost giving the death penalty for protecting a rapist isn't? they've already set a terrible incident by hiring Franklin in the first place.

Has he been charged with anything at all? Nope.

Apparently you know nothing about PR. It looks horrible for your brand just based on association. Would you leave your kids with someone who was accused but not convicted of child molestation?

Given that he was accused without evidence, by folks who were actually convicted of a crime, in effort to save their own hides, I think your point kinda loses merit.

Example: Shapiro accused Golden of knowing all about the set-up and of working with Sean Allen in his first year here. We know Shapiro's story is BS, Golden was never charged by the NCAA with any wrongdoing, and therefore UM's brand is not damaged by association.

There will be no big PR dust-up about Franklin. No Yahoo news articles, no SI exposee, no piece on PTI or whatever. This is a dead issue...Franklin's name isn't being sullied by this case in the media, so PSU's PR isn't being damaged.

 

[gfer1988]

Franklin won't be fired after just 2 yrs on the job. That sets a bad precedent. PSU needs stability after O'Brien jumped ship in a hurry. And Golden ain't going to PSU.

oh that sets a bad precedent? yet hiring a coach accused of protecting rapists on his team just after your program is almost giving the death penalty for protecting a rapist isn't? they've already set a terrible incident by hiring Franklin in the first place.

Has he been charged with anything at all? Nope.

Apparently you know nothing about PR. It looks horrible for your brand just based on association. Would you leave your kids with someone who was accused but not convicted of child molestation?

Given that he was accused without evidence, by folks who were actually convicted of a crime, in effort to save their own hides, I think your point kinda loses merit.

Example: Shapiro accused Golden of knowing all about the set-up and of working with Sean Allen in his first year here. We know Shapiro's story is BS, Golden was never charged by the NCAA with any wrongdoing, and therefore UM's brand is not damaged by association.

There will be no big PR dust-up about Franklin. No Yahoo news articles, no SI exposee, no piece on PTI or whatever. This is a dead issue...Franklin's name isn't being sullied by this case in the media, so PSU's PR isn't being damaged.

There will be no big PR dust-up about Franklin bc it's in a small market. and that Golden example is not the same thing as Golden was already hired when that shapiro issue hit the media like a fire storm. what would be the equivalent, is if miami would have hired Butch right after the shapiro deal and after having his name linked with the academic scandal at UNC. despite people not wanting to believe it, Butch being tied to the UNC scandal (despite not being guilty) is another reason he won't be hired here. not by this admin anyways.

 

[BoroCane83]

So because Franklin protected some rapists, he is going to get fired from Penn St?

Ummmmm.....

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

oh that sets a bad precedent? yet hiring a coach accused of protecting rapists on his team just after your program is almost giving the death penalty for protecting a rapist isn't? they've already set a terrible incident by hiring Franklin in the first place.

Has he been charged with anything at all? Nope.

Apparently you know nothing about PR. It looks horrible for your brand just based on association. Would you leave your kids with someone who was accused but not convicted of child molestation?

Given that he was accused without evidence, by folks who were actually convicted of a crime, in effort to save their own hides, I think your point kinda loses merit.

Example: Shapiro accused Golden of knowing all about the set-up and of working with Sean Allen in his first year here. We know Shapiro's story is BS, Golden was never charged by the NCAA with any wrongdoing, and therefore UM's brand is not damaged by association.

There will be no big PR dust-up about Franklin. No Yahoo news articles, no SI exposee, no piece on PTI or whatever. This is a dead issue...Franklin's name isn't being sullied by this case in the media, so PSU's PR isn't being damaged.

There will be no big PR dust-up about Franklin bc it's in a small market. and that Golden example is not the same thing as Golden was already hired when that shapiro issue hit the media like a fire storm. what would be the equivalent, is if miami would have hired Butch right after the shapiro deal and after having his name linked with the academic scandal at UNC. despite people not wanting to believe it, Butch being tied to the UNC scandal (despite not being guilty) is another reason he won't be hired here. not by this admin anyways.

Whatever you say, man. Point is that PSU's PR hasn't been and isn't going to be damaged by Franklin's alleged connection to the Vandy situation, ergo he won't be fired for reasons connected to the Vandy thing. And he won't be fired based on his performance alone in yr 2 of his contract. So, in short, this is a stupid thread.

 

[gfer1988]

Has he been charged with anything at all? Nope.

Apparently you know nothing about PR. It looks horrible for your brand just based on association. Would you leave your kids with someone who was accused but not convicted of child molestation?

Given that he was accused without evidence, by folks who were actually convicted of a crime, in effort to save their own hides, I think your point kinda loses merit.

Example: Shapiro accused Golden of knowing all about the set-up and of working with Sean Allen in his first year here. We know Shapiro's story is BS, Golden was never charged by the NCAA with any wrongdoing, and therefore UM's brand is not damaged by association.

There will be no big PR dust-up about Franklin. No Yahoo news articles, no SI exposee, no piece on PTI or whatever. This is a dead issue...Franklin's name isn't being sullied by this case in the media, so PSU's PR isn't being damaged.

There will be no big PR dust-up about Franklin bc it's in a small market. and that Golden example is not the same thing as Golden was already hired when that shapiro issue hit the media like a fire storm. what would be the equivalent, is if miami would have hired Butch right after the shapiro deal and after having his name linked with the academic scandal at UNC. despite people not wanting to believe it, Butch being tied to the UNC scandal (despite not being guilty) is another reason he won't be hired here. not by this admin anyways.

Whatever you say, man. Point is that PSU's PR hasn't been and isn't going to be damaged by Franklin's alleged connection to the Vandy situation, ergo he won't be fired for reasons connected to the Vandy thing. And he won't be fired based on his performance alone in yr 2 of his contract. So, in short, this is a stupid thread.

Probably not. i think the point of the thread is that because of the Franklin allegations and PSU's recent scandal that there is less room for error for Franklin. Definitely a stupid thread. Al leaving Miami should not be contingent on a spot opening up at PSU. Dude should of been fired like last year.

 

[TreOFive]

When NOT if but WHEN Al Golden leaves Miami...He will never coach at another major program again. Atleast not has the head coach

 

[Tad Footeball]

Franklin is the slightly darker skinned version of Golden just with a little more of a "caffeine" habit. Dude is preaching "core values" up there with the same car salesman shtick and no real results. The only thing we can hope for is that Kayaa doesn't regress to the same extent that Hackenburg did.

 

[CaneFan79]

cause or just for losing next year if he doesn't have significantly better record !

While Texas Longhorns are breathing a sign of relief that they didn't hire Fraiklin who was accused of coddling rapists, http://www.hornsports.com/forums/topic/9530-be-glad-we-didnt-hire-james-franklin/ the folks at PSU truly have eggs in their faces for hiring Franklin instead of Al Golden whose Vanderbilt players have just been convicted of ALL charges related to raping a young lady. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...erdict-guilty-rape-vandenburg-batey/22430567/

Certainly, this is an indictment of James Franklin as well, as he didn't pull an Al Golden move in swiftly kicking these rapists off the team.
While PSU may not have wanted to hire Al Golden since he solicited funds for disgraced Penn State rapist & DC Jerry Sandusky, one wonders how PSU officials feel now that the coach they hired testified in his players trial (while some say not totally truthfully) trial in which they were convicted of rape.

I predict that if Franklin pulls another 4 games losing streaking and another 6-6 regular record he will fired. If he is not fully successful next year, that is winning at less than 10 games, he will be let go... and if one former leading candidate has a successful record at his current University, he will be offered that PSU job that he so covets. Now, shall we root that he wins out next year since this would certainly help out in that he leaves after 2015 on his accord?

Nice try...Pedo State knows Fataweenie Alfredo and Sandusky were close...Trouble is, nobody in Miami had a clue:

https://www.canesinsight.com/threads/83851-When-Sandusky-gate-broke-did-they-ask-Golden-anything?highlight=sandusky

 

[Cane2]

Apparently you know nothing about PR. It looks horrible for your brand just based on association. Would you leave your kids with someone who was accused but not convicted of child molestation?

Given that he was accused without evidence, by folks who were actually convicted of a crime, in effort to save their own hides, I think your point kinda loses merit.

Example: Shapiro accused Golden of knowing all about the set-up and of working with Sean Allen in his first year here. We know Shapiro's story is BS, Golden was never charged by the NCAA with any wrongdoing, and therefore UM's brand is not damaged by association.

There will be no big PR dust-up about Franklin. No Yahoo news articles, no SI exposee, no piece on PTI or whatever. This is a dead issue...Franklin's name isn't being sullied by this case in the media, so PSU's PR isn't being damaged.

There will be no big PR dust-up about Franklin bc it's in a small market. and that Golden example is not the same thing as Golden was already hired when that shapiro issue hit the media like a fire storm. what would be the equivalent, is if miami would have hired Butch right after the shapiro deal and after having his name linked with the academic scandal at UNC. despite people not wanting to believe it, Butch being tied to the UNC scandal (despite not being guilty) is another reason he won't be hired here. not by this admin anyways.

Whatever you say, man. Point is that PSU's PR hasn't been and isn't going to be damaged by Franklin's alleged connection to the Vandy situation, ergo he won't be fired for reasons connected to the Vandy thing. And he won't be fired based on his performance alone in yr 2 of his contract. So, in short, this is a stupid thread.

Probably not. i think the point of the thread is that because of the Franklin allegations and PSU's recent scandal that there is less room for error for Franklin... Al leaving Miami should not be contingent on a spot opening up at PSU. Dude should of been fired like last year.

It may be that it shouldn't a be contingency that Al finds a suitable job opening for him to leave. But if the powers that be at UM won't fire Al, then what else can a fanatic hope for but for him to have at least a modicum of success in order that he can be attractive to a college looking for a new coach. We know that PSU would love Golden Pillars and his discipline marching, so what else could PSU be looking for in Al?

Reality is that if Franklin wins out next year, then he may get another ride, maybe not since the ambitious Franklin might look to grander pastures. But mark my words, anything close to another 6-6 regular season record, or an underwhelming 7-5 season on PSU's starting QB third year at Penn State (Franklin 2nd yr.) and the dogs will come out and be loose upon Franklin. Precedents in the Pros have been set when a coach has been released after one bad year and now routinely after 2 years when there is a clear view that the coach is not a fit; and if you can't win in Happy Valley, you ain't a fit. PSU ain't the League, but they give Oakland Raider a run for the money for their home games and TV revenues. Franklin is not Joe Patterno, he won't be given an endless leash if he can't pull the wins. Franklin Not winning in a PSU program that is accustomed to winning while having a problem with coddling 2 convicted rapists is a praecipe for termination. And if Franklin does quite well (and Al Golden does too in 2015), the pride of the Lions may not allow them to keep Franklin with such disrepute in its head man having harbored rapists, thus PSU may encourage Franklin to take a job in the NFL (where he had actually been interviewed for HC gigs) while releasing him from any buyout $$$, just like Missouri let Frank go to Tulsa without having Tulsa pay Frank Haith buyout. If Al won 8-9 games and gains a choice to build UM or bolt for Ped State, what would be his choice?

While many feel that Al Golden should have been fired yesterday -- including me -- or as soon as the 2015 winds down. However, we should listen to our broken hearts and the many laments sure to come with a potential (horrible) scenario of Al Golden Canes winning 8-9 games next year AND being RETAINED again for more years down the line. I truly believe that had Golden won one more game in 2013 for a 10-win season the PSU job would have been his. Had he won two more games in 2015 including Virginia and Pittsburgh, his 8-5 season would have looked a lot better than a bowl-less Pitt then-head coach at 5-7. I'd even venture to stretch that had he won that one more final game vs. Pittsburgh holding down that coach to a losing record, then Wisconsin may not have looked at a loser Pitt Head Coach, and Golden may have been re-offered that gig he was originally offered two years prior.

 

[dallascane]

In some respects, this is Franklin's first year since they had some pretty serious scholarship reductions. But aside from that, if you think PSU gives a crap about rape you are kidding yourself. Their fans are practically lathering themselves up with Sandusky ****.