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Protect College Sports Act [formerly “SCORE Act” thread]

coffeecane said:
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Reality is nobody knows what will end up being negotiated by the combination of Media partners + conferences. Lot of horse trading going on. However as far as current regulations ... Miami would need to inform the ACC, prior to June 1, 2027, that Miami is leaving the conference for the 2028 season, and then pay the appropriate exit fee. If all parties are in agreement, without any restrictions from this bill, it could happen that soon. IF the 3 year independent status becomes a law .. then I believe Miami would leave in 28 and play 28, 29, 30 as an independent joining the B10 in 31. Doubt the 3 year independent restriction actually passes.
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Why play as an independent when you can leave without going independent in 2031?
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Won’t take that long. If the bill passes the house with the 20 cap still part of it, Miami will announce it is leaving the ACC before the bill is signed into law. Then Miami doesn’t have to wait 3 years because it was already an independent when the bill was passed. Miami will then pursue a legal remedy to avoid paying the ACC exit fee due to an imminent change in law that would have caused irrevocable damage to the university.
 
CaneBorn1983 said:
Won’t take that long. If the bill passes the house with the 20 cap still part of it, Miami will announce it is leaving the ACC before the bill is signed into law. Then Miami doesn’t have to wait 3 years because it was already an independent when the bill was passed. Miami will then pursue a legal remedy to avoid paying the ACC exit fee due to an imminent change in law that would have caused irrevocable damage to the university.
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Nailed it. We are much closer to being in the B1G than everyone realizes.
 
423Hurricane said:
Logistical nightmare beyond the fact the travel time for away games would have an affect on
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CaneBorn1983 said:
Won’t take that long. If the bill passes the house with the 20 cap still part of it, Miami will announce it is leaving the ACC before the bill is signed into law. Then Miami doesn’t have to wait 3 years because it was already an independent when the bill was passed. Miami will then pursue a legal remedy to avoid paying the ACC exit fee due to an imminent change in law that would have caused irrevocable damage to the university.
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You have any knowledge of UM lawyers investigating this already or pure speculation on your part? This is one subject I can’t get any clear answers on from my sources.
 
coffeecane said:
Why play as an independent when you can leave without going independent in 2031?
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You can bet that the conference you are headed to will be working WITH you to structure $$$ games for UM in the transition period so that your media payout is higher than the ACC and maybe even matching the B10. These decisions and plans are not being made in a vacuum. Realistically I don't expect the INDEPENDENT clause of this current bill to pass the House. BUT if it does for some nonsensical reason, I believe the conferences and media partners will have a plan for the "independent" group that makes financial sense.

Look at the ACC Settlement with FSU / Clemson that was basically brokered by ESPN. It states that if 6 schools leave together to play for the same conference or league ... the exit fee then drops to $75M. Well ... in the current situation ... if FSU, Miami, Clemson, UNC, UVA and Ga Tech all leave ... those 6 programs could essentially be in the "same" independent conference .... scheduling games with their future conference partners AND getting to leave the ACC for only $75M immediately.
 
Orig.CaneSawMassacre said:
You have any knowledge of UM lawyers investigating this already or pure speculation on your part? This is one subject I can’t get any clear answers on from my sources.
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Have absolutely no connections but my specialty is logistics and moving a caravan required for a major football program has to be challenging at best. Moving to the B1G would require us to travel farther more extensively then we currently do. Not saying it’s not doable but there has to be added cost as well.

Off the top of my head, seems the closest school to us is Taint. We’d literally be traveling coast to coast. NJ to CA. I would surely imagine the Miami powers that be have already considered this and the cost/benefit of getting in the B1G.
 
Rickd said:
You can bet that the conference you are headed to will be working WITH you to structure $$$ games for UM in the transition period so that your media payout is higher than the ACC and maybe even matching the B10. These decisions and plans are not being made in a vacuum. Realistically I don't expect the INDEPENDENT clause of this current bill to pass the House. BUT if it does for some nonsensical reason, I believe the conferences and media partners will have a plan for the "independent" group that makes financial sense.

Look at the ACC Settlement with FSU / Clemson that was basically brokered by ESPN. It states that if 6 schools leave together to play for the same conference or league ... the exit fee then drops to $75M. Well ... in the current situation ... if FSU, Miami, Clemson, UNC, UVA and Ga Tech all leave ... those 6 programs could essentially be in the "same" independent conference .... scheduling games with their future conference partners AND getting to leave the ACC for only $75M immediately.
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If this is happening behind the scenes then great. Without all 6 leaving then I don't see any reason to go independent when you could just stay in acc and leave after sunset of requirement. Obviously none of this applies if bill (likely) dies.
 
coffeecane said:
If this is happening behind the scenes then great. Without all 6 leaving then I don't see any reason to go independent when you could just stay in acc and leave after sunset of requirement. Obviously none of this applies if bill (likely) dies.
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Again ... it depends on the deal that is structured. IF the B10 has a deal for UM ... scheduling while independent ... and the $$$ more than makes up for the exit fee. Then you do it and get out. The 3 years "independent" could mean making more $$$ every season than being in the ACC. This is all about exposure and money.
 
CaneBorn1983 said:
Won’t take that long. If the bill passes the house with the 20 cap still part of it, Miami will announce it is leaving the ACC before the bill is signed into law. Then Miami doesn’t have to wait 3 years because it was already an independent when the bill was passed. Miami will then pursue a legal remedy to avoid paying the ACC exit fee due to an imminent change in law that would have caused irrevocable damage to the university.
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Miami is STILL in the ACC today and has to abide by the ACC laws. Miami has to ANNOUNCE they are leaving the ACC prior to June 21, 2027, THEN they are out of the ACC effective June 1, 2028. Miami can announce before the bill is signed into law but will not be an independent until June 2028. The REALISTIC issue ... it is doubtful that the 3 year independent requirement makes it through the house. If Moody's 180 transitional period makes it into the House version ... then yeah ... Miami and the others can bail and join their new conferences effective 2028.
 
Tony4Canes said:
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As i was saying……
cookies said:
it’s all nice and well that republicans are speaking out about all the challenges facing the bill in late September, but until the massive push that’ll arrive in the lame duck period occurs, their words are irrelevant.

I also don’t trust more than half of the blue dog caucus and believe many of them would cross the aisle.

What I do know is Trump has whipped the House over and over again & I’ll need to see it to believe that he won’t do it again. We’re in a limbo period until Congress goes home for the holidays in December.
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& how hilarious is it that the “draft,” went unsigned
 
bathtubgin said:
Race is no where near the most important thing in public policy, and race is absolutely not the issue on this topic.

And lots of **** has happened in the last thousand years. You don’t forget it, you learn from it, attempt to do better, and move on. You don’t dwell on things that can’t be changed.
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Or, you know, people can keep denying and ignoring the issue that keeps happening over and over and over and over again for a thousand years.

Kinda like what you are doing.

I'd love to believe in your pie-in-the-sky ideals, that we "haven't forgotten it", that we've "learned from it", that we "attempt to do better", and that we can "move on".

But that's not reality. It's just empty idealism.
 
Rickd said:
Did hear a rumor that the cap is being moved to 20. If so who is going to the B10 with Miami? Miami & FSU? There is a strong belief by a couple of FSU guys who have decent connections that the settlement with the ACC included an out for FSU and Clemson. Clemson to the SEC and Miami +1 to the B10 might be just down the road.
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For the record, those "couple of FSU guys who have decent connections" are full of ****.
 
cookies said:
How can this bill not get through rules in the House but can in the Senate? Idk what rules is but guessing procedural part?
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:snoopfacepalm:


The House and Senate Rules Committees are two separate things with different powers.

The House Committee sets terms for scheduling, debating, and voting on bills. The Senate Committee does not.

The House Rules Commitee is 100x more powerful than the Senate Rules Committee. For hundreds of years, reps have fought to get on the House Rules Committee. More bills have died in the House Rules Committee than at any other stage of the process.
 
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