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Protect College Sports Act [formerly “SCORE Act” thread]

cookies said:
Has there ever been anything like this in American history? Does anyone have any comparisons? It’s quite incredible.

I know of the decades long fight to establish minimum wages and maximum weekday working hours; however, I can’t quite recall ever reading about a united front like this to suppress wages on such a large scale, even inflation adjusted for past times.

Obviously the ncaa is the ncaa etc but money went out in the open after the FBI / Supreme Court decisions and so forth …. Not talking about a union wanting more pay & power because that’s not close enough of an equivalent imo.
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They aren’t actually employees so they aren’t getting any type of workers rights consideration.

I don’t know how it would work, but they have to find a way to break the two revenue generating sports off into their own entities. Then they can drop the student aspect altogether, make the players employees and allow for collective bargaining.
 
bathtubgin said:
They aren’t actually employees so they aren’t getting any type of workers rights consideration.

I don’t know how it would work, but they have to find a way to break the two revenue generating sports off into their own entities. Then they can drop the student aspect altogether, make the players employees and allow for collective bargaining.
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Yeah, it’s just tough to all put together but i mean I’ve never seen or read about the government ever coming in and saying money has to stop going to these people but not all of these other people around them in the same industry; CBA or not. Just the attempt to do it even if not successful, never seen anything like it.

Agents aren’t going to go gently into the dark night i know that much. thank goodness for that
 
Why does it seem like the NFL doesnt give two ***** about this bill? You would think they would support less transfers and less NIL money overall to get kids to keep entering the draft sooner rather than now that they come back to college more.

This bill along with the 24 team playoff will kill the sport imo and the NFL is just watching and letting them do it.
 
Empirical Cane said:
Protect SEC schools from being outspent by bigger media market schools amendment...


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That way Bama, LSU and UGA can get back to their old ways of cash in McDonald’s bags. ESPN is desperate for it as well. They quietly donated $1.7 million to lobby for the bill to pass. Because if the SEC gets firmly passed by the Big 10 (and maybe the ACC eventually, if Clemson and FSU have a resurgence at some point), ESPN stands to lose a whole lot of money.
 
SaiyaMan305 said:
Why does it seem like the NFL doesnt give two ***** about this bill? You would think they would support less transfers and less NIL money overall to get kids to keep entering the draft sooner rather than now that they come back to college more.

This bill along with the 24 team playoff will kill the sport imo and the NFL is just watching and letting them do it.
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The nfl has supported it, the surprising thing is how they wrangled the nbapa and nflpa into silently supporting it

In a proper country we’d already have an expose or direct questioning of their leadership about it

But in general I don’t think any of the leagues, or their unions, want to get involved with this
 
SaiyaMan305 said:
Why does it seem like the NFL doesnt give two ***** about this bill? You would think they would support less transfers and less NIL money overall to get kids to keep entering the draft sooner rather than now that they come back to college more.

This bill along with the 24 team playoff will kill the sport imo and the NFL is just watching and letting them do it.
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The NFL loves the current system of having a 100% free to the NFL developmental league. Their position has long been “CFB has nothing to do with us” because they don’t want to open themselves up to any kind of financial responsibility that could arise by admitting they use CFB as a minor league.

The closest the NFL has ever gotten to an admission was when they instituted the rule about needing to be three years removed from HS before you can play in the NFL. Even with that the NFL framed it solely about being for the safety of the player rather than admit they wanted further player development.
 
cookies said:
www.chrismurphyct.com

The 'Protect College Sports Act' Doesn't Actually Protect College Athletes

It’s time to stop mincing words and being polite: College athletes started making money, jeopardizing an exploitative system that kept billions in revenue in the hands of mostly white male adults — and suddenly college sports was in “crisis.”
www.chrismurphyct.com www.chrismurphyct.com
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Chris Murphy is a moron and this is pure political theater.

Billions of revenue is not in the hands of mostly white males. Billions in revenue is in the hands of mostly “non-profit” Universities, and the university system in this country is among the farthest left of institutions out there.
 
bathtubgin said:
Chris Murphy is a moron and this is pure political theater.

Billions of revenue is not in the hands of mostly white males. Billions in revenue is in the hands of mostly “non-profit” Universities, and the university system in this country is among the farthest left of institutions out there.
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Did you read the article?

I'm taking it as Billions in revenue in hands of Universities & NCAA, which are mostly white adult males.
 
Tony4Canes said:
Did you read the article?

I'm taking it as Billions in revenue in hands of Universities & NCAA, which are mostly white adult males.
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I’m not giving Chris Murphy clicks. The synopsis was enough.

The insinuation is billions in revenue are going into the pocket of white males which isn’t accurate. It’s pure race baiting for the purpose of political grandstanding.
 
bathtubgin said:
I’m not giving Chris Murphy clicks. The synopsis was enough.

The insinuation is billions in revenue are going into the pocket of white males which isn’t accurate. It’s pure race baiting for the purpose of political grandstanding.
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but yeah he's correct and obviously so. but after the CBC kills any hope of this bill in 2027 you can thank this exact point
 
"First, it doesn’t even pretend to limit the impact of big money in college sports. It limits only the way that money reaches the athletes. It places a cap on the students’ cut of the revenues, but there are no caps on coaches’ salaries or on the size of donations to athletic programs.

Second, the legislation creates a system defined by double standards between students and coaches. Athletes are banned from transferring schools more than once, but coaches can switch schools whenever they please. In no other industry has Congress passed a law requiring a person to stay in a job, or remain at a school, for a fixed period of years. That would plainly violate the most basic freedoms of the American free-enterprise system.

The egregious double standards in the PCSA offer reason enough to oppose this bill, but they are small potatoes compared to the NCAA’s true target in this fight: a sweeping provision to exempt college sports programs from our antitrust laws. It’s those very antitrust laws that forced the NCAA to allow athlete compensation in the first place, and that’s exactly why they’ve been fighting for a congressional exemption ever since."

I don't know why any conservative would oppose this from Chris. He's arguing for open market capitalism.
 
This has become exactly what it was always meant to be. You present something that's supposed to fix a problem, you highlight the things everyone hates and say we're going to fix that, and then the flood gates open and the real purpose reveals itself. This is politics. Special interest masquerading as progress.

As I've said numerous times, the seed of these bills is always very important to pay attention to because that is the end game. Saban golfing with Trump was the seed and you can imagine who was planting that seed. He is an active employee at ESPN. He is deeply tied to the powers in the SEC.

I think this entire thing can stall in the house if enough people start to speak out. Mike Ryan needs to keep going.
 
"Strip away the language of crisis and an old story remains, with an unmistakable racial cast: adults that profited from a discriminatory system are panicking that young athletes are now empowered and are asking Congress to restore the old arrangement. Congress should decline — and tell the schools to go negotiate a resolution with their athletes, the way every other industry in America has to."
 
ShadowSpring said:
but yeah he's correct and obviously so. but after the CBC kills any hope of this bill in 2027 you can thank this exact point
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He’s not correct.

He would have been correct if he had left race out and simply said the NCAA and Universities are bringing in billions off football and men’s basketball while those athletes haven’t (until recently) seen any of that revenue. A statement like that doesn’t get a senator in the news cycle though.
 
A lot of you want to glaze over the real issue, and that’s football and men’s basketball need to have the student part dropped from “student athlete” and need to be employees in some fashion. These two sports also need to be separated somehow from the rest of the athletic department and made into their own entities. They are the only sports that make money and the billions they generate is why this is an issue.
 
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