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Wake_Cane said:
Idk where this enrollment increase thing is coming from but it is completely fabricated. That is flat out not happening.
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WRONG.

Increased student body will be housed and academically nutured at the soon-to-be announced 130 story Mario Cristobal TUFF N FYZICAL TOWER.

The entry portico, grand in design, doesn't have these namby pamby swing gates.

Old school turnstiles only.

Students have to push and earn their entry into the building.
 
dccane06 said:
Hope they don't touch Miami's Best
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Wake_Cane said:
Idk where this enrollment increase thing is coming from but it is completely fabricated. That is flat out not happening.
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There was a presentation that gave a summary of what UM is receiving in return for the gifted land ... and one of the "benefits" was reported to be a revised cap on student enrollment from the City of Coral Gables. Nobody is saying there is any immediate play on the part of UM to expand the student body ... BUT ... the report stated that there is currently a cap and that one of the benefits being received is an increase IN that cap.
 
Rickd said:
There was a presentation that gave a summary of what UM is receiving in return for the gifted land ... and one of the "benefits" was reported to be a revised cap on student enrollment from the City of Coral Gables. Nobody is saying there is any immediate play on the part of UM to expand the student body ... BUT ... the report stated that there is currently a cap and that one of the benefits being received is an increase IN that cap.
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Pete did a nice job covering this for Canes Pulse
 
Rickd said:
UM gifts the city a parcel of land appraised at $50 Million dollars and in return will be able to increase the student body by 35% as well as add a full service hospital ON the UM campus. Roughly 4500 students @ $66,000 = potential incremental tuition revenue of $297 million per year, in addition to the incremental revenue / profit / prestige of having an ADDITIONAL hospital in the U health system ... on campus. A new UM hospital would be expected to generate annual revenues in excess of $2.0 Billion dollars (projected based on current revenues of each of the 3 hospitals in the U Health system ....Sylvester Cancer Center $2.3 Billion, UHealth Tower $2.6 Billion, Bascom Palmer Eye Institute $50-100 million). So this land deal has the potential of paving the way for UM to make operational changes / investments "on campus" that will increase the revenue base of UM by close to $3 Billion dollars annually. Nice.
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Seems like they may want to build a Hospital on Ponce.

They should also try to acquire Doctor's Hospital. Not buying years ago was an all-time ball-drop by BOT.
 
Rickd said:
How about building one OVER Lake Osceola? Gotta go UP!
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I love the stadium theory but still waiting for one person to explain how you plan on getting 60,000 people off of US one onto the Miami campus or building something taller than seven stories without lowering down further to counter height restrictions when the water table is what the water table is
 
This thread is an absolute joy. One of my favorite things on this site is watching people slam certain posters comments when you know exactly who they are and what their actual day job is and that what they actually do know that they’re trying to tell you and you some **** on them With declarative statements about how they are not right. It’s pure comedy
 
Ispyin said:
I love the stadium theory but still waiting for one person to explain how you plan on getting 60,000 people off of US one onto the Miami campus or building something taller than seven stories without lowering down further to counter height restrictions when the water table is what the water table is
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Have you ever been on US 1 for just a basketball game? ****, even a baseball game? Or just on a bad day? Now imagine a 40,000 seat stadium, what’s the traffic going to be like on US1 and in Coral Gables overall? How about a three hour backup? This is why a stadium will never be built on campus or anywhere near campus - just not logistically possible.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Have you ever been on US 1 for just a basketball game? ****, even a baseball game? Or just on a bad day? Now imagine a 40,000 seat stadium, what’s the traffic going to be like on US1 and in Coral Gables overall? How about a three hour backup? This is why a stadium will never be built on campus or anywhere near campus - just not logistically possible.
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My freshman dorm room faced US 1 from Pearson and almost every morning and afternoon there was an accident at that light going into UM which would cause huge traffic jams.
 
Rickd said:
There was a presentation that gave a summary of what UM is receiving in return for the gifted land ... and one of the "benefits" was reported to be a revised cap on student enrollment from the City of Coral Gables. Nobody is saying there is any immediate play on the part of UM to expand the student body ... BUT ... the report stated that there is currently a cap and that one of the benefits being received is an increase IN that cap.
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He's misunderstanding it. It is not a cap it is a threshold beyond which we need to start jumping through some annoying annual hoops to ensure traffic mitigation for the most part. That threshold will be raised under the new agreement, which is not a signal that we're going to increase enrollment by that number, rather it is more a matter of wiggle room for us to not have to jump through these hoops.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Have you ever been on US 1 for just a basketball game? ****, even a baseball game? Or just on a bad day? Now imagine a 40,000 seat stadium, what’s the traffic going to be like on US1 and in Coral Gables overall? How about a three hour backup? This is why a stadium will never be built on campus or anywhere near campus - just not logistically possible.
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Honestly I based my day around the traffic on US1 on normal days.

I would seriously consider canceling my season tickets if they built a stadium on campus.

Not worth the hassle lol.
 
Wake_Cane said:
He's misunderstanding it. It is not a cap it is a threshold beyond which we need to start jumping through some annoying annual hoops to ensure traffic mitigation for the most part. That threshold will be raised under the new agreement, which is not a signal that we're going to increase enrollment by that number, rather it is more a matter of wiggle room for us to not have to jump through these hoops.
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Could be a mix of both, though.

The shopping center directly across from the Metro Station is going to become a large chunk of (privately-owned) housing. I believe that there is now a second ****** student organization called Chabad which has acquired property behind Thesis Hotel (where Miami Hurricanes Team Store is located. as well as some Hurricane Club office space). And let's not forget that tower on the other side of UM, between the (old) University Center and Thesis, which used to house the National Hurricane Center before Hurricane Andrew knocked the big ball off the roof and it started rolling down US 1.

Whether it be through private acquisition or UM itself, I believe that there will be ongoing acquisition of non-residential space on the opposite side of US 1, as well as the acquisition of residential and light-commercial space to the west of San Amaro, perhaps extending into South Miami.

And I believe that as all of these things happen, the enrollment WILL increase. That may not happen at once ("5,000 more students next year!") but I do believe that certain programs will be allowed to admit more students over time, as we add more housing capacity and buildings. I could see the law school bringing back Section D (the evening program) and the Business School increasing both undergrad and MBA enrollment. Not all at once. But those programs make money and produce alums that TEND to make donations. Engineering COULD get bigger if we can continue to target foreign enrollment. I don't know if Communications has the same demand in the modern age, and I guess that Arts & Sciences could always get bigger. I don't think Music or Architecture can get any bigger, and I have always questioned Nursing and Education, given UM's cost and the relatively low starting salaries.

Time to start a dental program like FSU is doing?
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Could be a mix of both, though.

The shopping center directly across from the Metro Station is going to become a large chunk of (privately-owned) housing. I believe that there is now a second ****** student organization called Chabad which has acquired property behind Thesis Hotel (where Miami Hurricanes Team Store is located. as well as some Hurricane Club office space). And let's not forget that tower on the other side of UM, between the (old) University Center and Thesis, which used to house the National Hurricane Center before Hurricane Andrew knocked the big ball off the roof and it started rolling down US 1.

Whether it be through private acquisition or UM itself, I believe that there will be ongoing acquisition of non-residential space on the opposite side of US 1, as well as the acquisition of residential and light-commercial space to the west of San Amaro, perhaps extending into South Miami.

And I believe that as all of these things happen, the enrollment WILL increase. That may not happen at once ("5,000 more students next year!") but I do believe that certain programs will be allowed to admit more students over time, as we add more housing capacity and buildings. I could see the law school bringing back Section D (the evening program) and the Business School increasing both undergrad and MBA enrollment. Not all at once. But those programs make money and produce alums that TEND to make donations. Engineering COULD get bigger if we can continue to target foreign enrollment. I don't know if Communications has the same demand in the modern age, and I guess that Arts & Sciences could always get bigger. I don't think Music or Architecture can get any bigger, and I have always questioned Nursing and Education, given UM's cost and the relatively low starting salaries.

Time to start a dental program like FSU is doing?
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Would be surprised to see the universities with medical centers but not undergraduate nursing programs
 
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