Post-camp thoughts

[canecrazy23]

I’m honestly blown away by how uninformed so much of the media is about our program. I just watched the On3 prediction video for our game, and here’s what stood out:


On CJ Carr’s first game:


“It’s on the road. I know it’s not a tough environment, but it’s on the road.”


Interesting comment when Ian Book himself said we were louder than Michigan, V Tech, and maybe even Georgia.




Take Josh Pate as the example of how it should be done in my opinion. He doesn’t predict us to be contenders, but he acknowledges: the program is high on this secondary, Beck is performing, the receivers are talented. He even says if those things are true, we’re immediate contenders, but he’s in the “believe it when I see it” camp. That’s totally fair.

Sorry but Pate lost me with his UF making the college playoff this year. He is acting Uninformed.

 

[twes.305]

I’m honestly blown away by how uninformed so much of the media is about our program. I just watched the On3 prediction video for our game, and here’s what stood out:


On CJ Carr’s first game:


“It’s on the road. I know it’s not a tough environment, but it’s on the road.”


Interesting comment when Ian Book himself said we were louder than Michigan, V Tech, and maybe even Georgia.


On Malachi Toney:

“I think he’s like 6th on their depth chart right now.”

This just is a clear example they have not paid attention to our program at all this offseason.


And then there’s the constant dismissal of our defensive back room. The media brushes past Lucas, Poyser, Thomas, Scott, O’Conner, and Brantley as if it’s the same group as last year. If this secondary belonged to Michigan, we’d hear every day about how elite it is.


I don’t care if the media is biased, it always is. What frustrates me is when people make predictions and give opinions that are just flat out uninformed.


Take Josh Pate as the example of how it should be done in my opinion. He doesn’t predict us to be contenders, but he acknowledges: the program is high on this secondary, Beck is performing, the receivers are talented. He even says if those things are true, we’re immediate contenders, but he’s in the “believe it when I see it” camp. That’s totally fair.


What’s not fair is the lazy dismissal I see everywhere else. And of all the Notre Dame predictions I’ve seen, almost none actually factor in how massive our additions really are.

I saw one video saying we lost our 4 top WRs to the draft. Shout out to our WR room, but not a single one was drafted . Well Arroyo was, but he’s a TE technically.

 

[twes.305]

You think JoJo will be better than Richards,I hope you're right.

Probably not, but as long as he is healthy he will do his thing.

 

[aelmiami]

Tell us you know nothing about Beck without actually telling us you know nothing about Beck. LOL

His numbers were worse last season. At some point it can’t be just the lack of run game and poor WR play. I watched most UGA games. He looked a bit gun shy as the season progressed due to those issues.

Like I’ve said more than once, I do believe he plays well and we make the CFP and ACCCG. I just have a more cautious approach with him compared to Cam. My opinion is what happens if we get in a VTech or Cal situation. How does he play? If we drop a few passes early against ND, or he throws an early pick. How does he respond to that?

Beck wasn’t infallible last season. And saying it’s everyone else’s fault is looking at the situation with orange and green glasses.

 

[NicKane]

No you didn’t. Let’s stop with the lies.

See your Alex smith fanboy, Mr.Checkdown . Mario slurper and Alex Smith fan it makes sense.

What ever dude! Believe what you want, I don’t give a fvck.

 

[jsy]

For years our dline would practice all summer against a jag oline that was weak and small and then play a team like notre dame and get steamrolled at the point of attack all game long
This summer the dline has been grinding against the best oline in the country that is also physically big, one big reason why I think this team will surprise ppl against notre dame esp in the trentches

 

[TheShredder]

For years our dline would practice all summer against a jag oline that was weak and small and then play a team like notre dame and get steamrolled at the point of attack all game long
This summer the dline has been grinding against the best oline in the country that is also physically big, one big reason why I think this team will surprise ppl against notre dame esp in the trentches

What do you mean for years? Our Dline was good for like 4 years under Richt/Manny. Last year our Dline was hyped up and they practiced against our oline. Then turned to be a dud against anyone not named UF

 

[TheGreatMuta]

they did this last year in the game threads saying emory will make us more efficient. theyll never appreciate what we had in Cam last year. he was the best player to ever play here. period. he was the sole reason our offense was THE best in the country and what should have been a title winning offense (teams that elite on either side of the ball generally make the playoffs and win significantly). we were the bengals last year.

Wow some people went that far to say Emory would make the team more efficient. I might never visit here for a game day then. It was bad enough with people pretending Emory had this immense potential after the Clemson game. To beg for him after seeing Ward lol.

 

[3rd-43]

Again, Cams interceptions where mostly from staying in the pocket way to long and throwing a pick. Had he taken the check down, it wouldn’t have thrown them. Beck will take the check down.

I would’ve loved for our opponents to have to check down against us.

 

[E1k]

Let me guess, you were the same person putting down Cam Ward this time last year because he apparently had a fumbling problem. Half this board was in panic mode because he had 12 fumbles in 2023, 7 in 2022, and 12 in 2021

With an upgraded O-line, WRs and RBs- I'm not too worried about Beck's interceptions in this system

Try this with someone else i don’t follow wtf the board says, This is me BEFORE cam played a snap here




And before yall say its beck hate i was one of the few saying he was one of if not the best option available and arguing against majority of the board when they wanted sorry *** ewers



My opinion isn’t rooted in cope like the majority of yall i know how to take all emotions out and see **** for what it is

 

[E1k]

Beck forced the ball, it’s that simple. It’s not bc he’s dumb and can’t read defenses or he’s inaccurate. Trying to force the ball and make a play, having a below avg OL, and a running game u can’t rely on, will do that to u. I wonder how Cam performs in that UGA offense vs how he did in his Miami offense, drops from WRs and worse protection.

Cam 2023 with waxzu was better than beck 2024, its not an indictment on beck to say cam is just way better. Put them in any situation and anyone with eyes would see cam is better

And no im not just looking from it in hindsight i said cam was the top qb in the country before a snap was played here and beck was considered the top guy






Check the dates these are before cam played a snap in Miami

 

[twes.305]

Cam 2023 with waxzu was better than beck 2024, its not an indictment on beck to say cam is just way better. Put them in any situation and anyone with eyes would see cam is better

And no im not just looking from it in hindsight i said cam was the top qb in the country before a snap was played here and beck was considered the top guy

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Check the dates these are before cam played a snap in Miami

In terms of stats, Cam 2023 season was very similar to Beck 2024 season. With that being said, that was not the comparison. The comparison was put Ward on UGA does he have a better season than his time at UM. Not only that, but this isn’t about Beck being better than Cam this is about Beck’s performance this year and why he had a bad stretch last season. He’s still one of the best QBs in CFB who consistently makes NFL throws after NFL throws when he’s locked in.

 

[TheShredder]

What ever dude! Believe what you want, I don’t give a fvck.

You do care that’s why you try to pretend you actually knew what you were talking. Go sit down Mr.checkdown

 

[jsy]

What do you mean for years? Our Dline was good for like 4 years under Richt/Manny. Last year our Dline was hyped up and they practiced against our oline. Then turned to be a dud against anyone not named UF

Every statement can be picked apart
That’s what women do
My point is the general big picture
That’s where we’ll agree
The dlines in the past were good at making splash plays but play after play they couldn’t handle the physicality
Last year the dlines was stunting too much
But you’re free to keep nit picking

 

[Bender]

On CJ Carr’s first game:


“It’s on the road. I know it’s not a tough environment, but it’s on the road.”


Interesting comment when Ian Book himself said we were louder than Michigan, V Tech, and maybe even Georgia.

Graham Mertz also had negative comments about Miami before his game against them. I wonder if that concussion he received gave him a heads-up.

 

[hharvey09]

Sorry but Pate lost me with his UF making the college playoff this year. He is acting Uninformed.

The first time he made it, he included with caveat that Lagway needed to stay healthy. Still an absurd take cause if Lagway plays like he did last year, which is totally possible seeing how he hasn’t thrown very much this offseason, there is no way they make the playoff

 

[Hstokes1447]

WR gives me concern

We have no proven players there and are relying on a Soph (Trader), portal transfers and a true freshman

I’m just going to keep posting this.

Miami has the second most returning snaps played and production in the ACC.

• CJ Daniels RSR, 2,257 snaps, 2,439 receiving yards, 21 touchdowns
• Keelan Marion 7th year SR, 1,517 snaps, 1,125 receiving yards, 7 touchdowns
• Tony Johnson RSR, 1,491 snaps, 1,118 receiving yards, 13 touchdowns
• JoJo Trader SO, 99 snaps, 91 receiving yards, 1 touchdown

 

[cway313]

Can't imagine why portal transfers can't be proven players.

What have they proven?

 

[Hstokes1447]

Are you more concerned with WR this year than you were with any position group prior to last year?

Last year we were relying on a true freshman, transfer at safety, the development of another true freshman at safety, and health of a thin group overall for our DBs.

WR is also my biggest concern this season, but much less so than with DB and LB from last year and that gives me confidence overall.

Miami has more than enough depth and experience to be a very solid receiver core this season. There are a total of 10 receivers on the roster and 6 of them have logged P5 college stats. There is a good mix of experienced 5th year vets, paired with the young blue chip talent.

Miami has the second most returning snaps played and production in the ACC.

• CJ Daniels RSR, 2,257 snaps, 148 catches, 2,439 receiving yards, 21 touchdowns
• Keelan Marion 7th year SR, 76 catches, 1,517 snaps, 1,125 receiving yards, 7 touchdowns
• Tony Johnson RSR, 1,491 snaps, 108 catches, 1,118 receiving yards, 13 touchdowns
• Ray Ray Joseph JR, NA snaps, 6 catches, 74 receiving yards, 0 touchdown
• JoJo Trader SO, 6 catches, 99 snaps, 91 receiving yards, 1 touchdown
• Ny Carr RFR, NA snaps, 1 catch, 8 receiving yards, 0 touchdown

Don’t let these lazy takes fool you, there are not many teams in the nation returning this amount of experience and production.

Wr Depth:
X
4star: CJ Daniels RSR 6-2, 205 (logged P5 stats)
4star: Josh Moore FR, 6-4, 210
4star: Chance Robinson RFR, 6-2, 205

Slot
4star: Malachi Toney FR, 5-11, 185
4star: Ray Ray Joseph, JR, 5-10, 190 (logged P5 stats)
3star: Tony Johnson RSR, 5-10, 190 (logged P5 stats)

Z
4star: JoJo Trader SO, 6-1, 185 (logged P5 stats)
4star: Keelan Marion RSR, 6-0, 195 (logged P5 stats)
4star: Ny Carr RFR, 6-0, 175 (logged P5 stats)
4star: Daylyn Upshaw, FR, 6-0, 180

Based off of these players latest rankings (high school and portal) Miami has 9, 4star receivers and only 1, 3star. I believe giving that amount of talent paired with a great teacher in KG, a receiver friendly system (X and JG were two of the leading receivers in the ACC in their first year in Dawsons offense, with TVD at QB, it’s safe to say this system is designed for receivers to eat). They also have an extremely accurate QB throwing to them, Beck is 71% accurate when throwing from a clean pocket.

 

[E1k]

In terms of stats, Cam 2023 season was very similar to Beck 2024 season. With that being said, that was not the comparison. The comparison was put Ward on UGA does he have a better season than his time at UM. Not only that, but this isn’t about Beck being better than Cam this is about Beck’s performance this year and why he had a bad stretch last season. He’s still one of the best QBs in CFB who consistently makes NFL throws after NFL throws when he’s locked in.

Did you miss when i said this in that reply? “Put them in any situation and anyone with eyes would see cam is better”

And i agree beck is one of the best qbs in the country, if u look at the other posts here i posted i was one of the few that wanted him over ewers when people were debating it

Im just arguing against people trying to downplay cam not even a full year later after he led us to a historically great offense and was the #1 pick in the draft. Like people on here will **** on anyone if it means they’re making themselves feel better about what we currently have that **** is lame