Please help me understand - Mario Cristobal

[Cans4life]

He's 27-47 as a Head Coach and has never been a coordinator at the college level. He's not an expert on either side of the ball, has a reputation as being hard to work with and is extremely overrated as a recruiter in that he's a horrible evaluator. He never wanted to offer TY hilton and had to be begged by an assistant to do so. He has a worse resume than Al Golden and shouldn't be considered for this job or any Power 5 job.

 

[Cribby]

If you want to understand him listen to any Canesport live show, Ferman faps to him weekly

 

[The Franchise]

If people REALLY want to go back to what made Miami great, it was INNOVATION.

Schnelly bringing a pro passing game. Jimmy bringing an aggressive 4-3 defense. Erickson bringing the single-back offense.

We don't need a recruiter. We don't need someone who "understands" South Florida. We need someone who understands X's & O's and how to gameplan. People talk about Alabama's facilities and recruiting. But what gets lost in all that is Nick Saban is one of the best defensive minds of this generation. Bill ******* Bellichick hired him to be his defensive coordinator as soon as he got a head coaching gig. Bama goes into every game with a schematic advantage defensively.

We need that. I want an elite X's & O's guy who can do more with less. THAT is how you recruit.

This. You took the words out of my mouth and what I've been preaching whenever asked on coaching situation.


Mario IS NOT ready for this job yet.

Yet? He should never be the UM HC. He brings nothing to the table. He's an x and o moron.

 

[Pentagon Cane]

I'm asking that anyone in favor of Mario Cristobal to help me understand, in detail, how whatever perceived rewards from his hiring outweigh the potential risks.

Things I'd like to know:

What strengths did he exhibit as an FIU Head Coach?

How is he with situational football? How does he make decisions in-game, generally?

What's his history of hiring and firing?

What did he "learn" under Coach Saban?

How do Alabama fans feel about his actual football (not recruiting) contributions? What are the details in terms of productivity increase or decrease?

We can start there. We can then go on to compare him, as a risk, to alternatives. Hope to learn something.

The guy ***** all over us when he was at Rutgers. I know it's business, but it got personal when he got to FIU on the recruiting front. Garcia cans him and we save him temporarily and then he splits in 5 weeks.

 

[fivecent]

If people REALLY want to go back to what made Miami great, it was INNOVATION.

Schnelly bringing a pro passing game. Jimmy bringing an aggressive 4-3 defense. Erickson bringing the single-back offense.

We don't need a recruiter. We don't need someone who "understands" South Florida. We need someone who understands X's & O's and how to gameplan. People talk about Alabama's facilities and recruiting. But what gets lost in all that is Nick Saban is one of the best defensive minds of this generation. Bill ****ing Bellichick hired him to be his defensive coordinator as soon as he got a head coaching gig. Bama goes into every game with a schematic advantage defensively.

We need that. I want an elite X's & O's guy who can do more with less. THAT is how you recruit.

Paging Gary Patterson, paging Gary Patterson. Gary Patterson, U are wanted on the courtesy phone.

 

[OBLIVION]

If people REALLY want to go back to what made Miami great, it was INNOVATION.

Schnelly bringing a pro passing game. Jimmy bringing an aggressive 4-3 defense. Erickson bringing the single-back offense.

We don't need a recruiter. We don't need someone who "understands" South Florida. We need someone who understands X's & O's and how to gameplan. People talk about Alabama's facilities and recruiting. But what gets lost in all that is Nick Saban is one of the best defensive minds of this generation. Bill ****ing Bellichick hired him to be his defensive coordinator as soon as he got a head coaching gig. Bama goes into every game with a schematic advantage defensively.

We need that. I want an elite X's & O's guy who can do more with less. THAT is how you recruit.

Paging Gary Patterson, paging Gary Patterson. Gary Patterson, U are wanted on the courtesy phone.

Toss the bank his way and anything else he wants

 

[DMoney]

How do Alabama fans feel about his actual football (not recruiting) contributions? What are the details in terms of productivity increase or decrease?

I can't answer the other questions, but someone who coached with him at Alabama swears by him. He said he was a huge asset and would kill it at Miami.

I'm not sold at all, but I took note of the comment because this guy is a straight-shooter.

 

[deleted3746]

He played for Miami, and corched for Miami. He's also perceived to be a good recruiter that knows S FL well. Over the years he's probably built a lot of relationships which is why people like Blustein and Feldman are pushing his name.

He'd be a disaster of a hire. We need a savage killer as a CEO and Mario isn't that. He's a position coach/associate head coach type.

How many coaches out there are savage killers while also being a Mensa member?

Spoiler

Tom Mother****ing Herman

 

[Notsince1985]

I'm asking that anyone in favor of Mario Cristobal to help me understand, in detail, how whatever perceived rewards from his hiring outweigh the potential risks.

Things I'd like to know:

What strengths did he exhibit as an FIU Head Coach?

How is he with situational football? How does he make decisions in-game, generally?

What's his history of hiring and firing?

What did he "learn" under Coach Saban?

How do Alabama fans feel about his actual football (not recruiting) contributions? What are the details in terms of productivity increase or decrease?

We can start there. We can then go on to compare him, as a risk, to alternatives. Hope to learn something.

bro, #canesfam , bro

 

[caneaddict]

Mario will get the job at memphis after Fuente comes

 

[bolivar]

He may do really well at UM, but with the available options, there's just no need to take a risk on Mario..

 

[weownfsu]

The bottom line is that dumb college football and Miami fans think all you need is a "recruiter" to win at Miami. Despite the fact that every coach who has won big here (not counting Coker) was a well-respected coach in other more important facets of the game.

Schnelly - NFL HC, Don Shula's OC
Jimmy Johnson - NFL HC
Butch Davis - Super Bowl winning DC
Dennis Erickson - NFL HC

We had four coaches in a row go to the NFL at one point. All of these guys were able to bring in great classes but none of these guys got hired to be NFL head coaches because of their ability to sit in a living room and convince a kid to come to Miami. They got hired to be NFL head coaches because they knew how to win football games.

A head coach's "recruiting" ability is pretty far down the list of things to consider. Recruiting success as a head coach is a function of a lot of things, but the most important of all of them is the ability to produce an exciting team that kids actually want to play for. We haven't had that in 12 years and a "recruiter" does not make that happen.

 

[brcane1]

He's 27-47 as a Head Coach and has never been a coordinator at the college level. He's not an expert on either side of the ball, has a reputation as being hard to work with and is extremely overrated as a recruiter in that he's a horrible evaluator. He never wanted to offer TY hilton and had to be begged by an assistant to do so. He has a worse resume than Al Golden and shouldn't be considered for this job or any Power 5 job.

Even if you don't count the first half of his run (3 seasons) on account of FIU being a new D1 program, he still was only 18-20 as their HC.

 

[weownfsu]

He's 27-47 as a Head Coach and has never been a coordinator at the college level. He's not an expert on either side of the ball, has a reputation as being hard to work with and is extremely overrated as a recruiter in that he's a horrible evaluator. He never wanted to offer TY hilton and had to be begged by an assistant to do so. He has a worse resume than Al Golden and shouldn't be considered for this job or any Power 5 job.

His "big pull" at Miami was Reggie Youngblood. He's such an awesome recruiter!!

 

[FullyERicht]

How do Alabama fans feel about his actual football (not recruiting) contributions? What are the details in terms of productivity increase or decrease?

I can't answer the other questions, but someone who coached with him at Alabama swears by him. He said he was a huge asset and would kill it at Miami.

I'm not sold at all, but I took note of the comment because this guy is a straight-shooter.

The fans think he sucks. Jimbo thinks Al is a great coach. I don't care what his colleagues think.

 

[fivecent]

The bottom line is that dumb college football and Miami fans think all you need is a "recruiter" to win at Miami. Despite the fact that every coach who has won big here (not counting Coker) was a well-respected coach in other more important facets of the game.

Schnelly - NFL HC, Don Shula's OC
Jimmy Johnson - NFL HC
Butch Davis - Super Bowl winning DC
Dennis Erickson - NFL HC

We had four coaches in a row go to the NFL at one point. All of these guys were able to bring in great classes but none of these guys got hired to be NFL head coaches because of their ability to sit in a living room and convince a kid to come to Miami. They got hired to be NFL head coaches because they knew how to win football games.

A head coach's "recruiting" ability is pretty far down the list of things to consider. Recruiting success as a head coach is a function of a lot of things, but the most important of all of them is the ability to produce an exciting team that kids actually want to play for. We haven't had that in 12 years and a "recruiter" does not make that happen.

Disagree immensely. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh*t. Unless of course you are Gary Patterson. His chicken sh*t salad is to die for.

If you can't get the right x/o guy, then you go for the recruiter and try again in 4 yrs. You will be good to go.

 

[ghost2]

How do Alabama fans feel about his actual football (not recruiting) contributions? What are the details in terms of productivity increase or decrease?

I can't answer the other questions, but someone who coached with him at Alabama swears by him. He said he was a huge asset and would kill it at Miami.

I'm not sold at all, but I took note of the comment because this guy is a straight-shooter.

Did he happen to elaborate on why he's such an asset?

 

[madsworldcane]

A coach is as good as his assistants. Who of note would come here to work under his tutelage ?

 

[NVA CANE]

Here are a few tidbits on what Bama fans think of Mario in relation to him getting the HC job at Miami

I sure hope Mario gets the job. He's a good man, and a good recruiter. But our OL play has gone down under him. We need an upgrade at that position, and that's just how it is.

Not gonna shed any tears if Mario goes. He might not be a terrible coach, but Bama can afford to have the best, and with Saban's power running game philosophy we **** sure need the best. When our Oline is full of top 50 recruits and our RB's are top 5 recruits, it's embarrassing that we can't have a 400 yard a game rushing attack and a 200 yard a game RB like Georgia, LSU or Wisconsin.

We have one of the worst negative play stats in the country. Take off the rose colored glasses.

Cristobal is a great recruiter, but cannot develop the players he recruits. He has certainly "turned around" our OL from being a positive to a disaster, and as taken Cam from a great lineman to below average.

Too many negative plays, confusion, and poor blocking schemes. Kiffen's cute play calling has exacerbated the problems causing a lack of continuity.

Please take him...I will even move him down there for free!

Mario needs to go

Great recruiter, terrible OL coach! Our 5* lineman has been the thorn in our side the past few games! Plea

 

[MedleyCane]

I'm asking that anyone in favor of Mario Cristobal to help me understand, in detail, how whatever perceived rewards from his hiring outweigh the potential risks.

Things I'd like to know:

What strengths did he exhibit as an FIU Head Coach?

How is he with situational football? How does he make decisions in-game, generally?

What's his history of hiring and firing?

What did he "learn" under Coach Saban?

How do Alabama fans feel about his actual football (not recruiting) contributions? What are the details in terms of productivity increase or decrease?

We can start there. We can then go on to compare him, as a risk, to alternatives. Hope to learn something.

My positives on Mario:
1) He did a decent job of bringing in rising young coaches, especially with regards to coordinators.
His first OC and DC were Coley and Galiano, respectively. Coley was there one year and his offense wasn't good.
But in fairness that was a transition year with a very bad team. His DC was Phil Galiano from Rutgers.
He sucked. After that he brought some pretty good coordinators from WVU (Bill Legg, who is now at Marshall),
Toledo (Satterfield, who is now the HC at Appalachian State) and from New Hampshire (Terry Cramsey, now
at Montana State). I thought those coordinators meshed well with the type of soFla talent he was recruiting.
On the DC side, he hired the LB coach from UCF, who eventually moved to MissSTate and is now the ghayturd's
DC, and he was followed by Todd Orlando, who is now the DC at UofHouston.
Again, good hires....and his other assistants of note who have done well is Alex Mirabal (OLine coach at Marshall)
and Frank Ponce (co-OC at Appy State).
2) Good recruiter....not much more to add to what has been already posted here and on other Cane boards.


Negatives:
Will all the good coaches he had in his staff, and with his recruiting ties to soFla, he really didn't dominate
the Sun Belt conference as one would expect. In fact, I think he got out-coached in some of the few games
I watched.

Overall: I would love him at UM, as an assistant coach. No way as HC.