Playoff rankings Miami #7

"Miami and Notre Dame control their own destiny". - ESPN round table

If we win out we are in the playoffs. I think everyone gets that.

As I've said before my issue is that in the future I know it will be incredibly difficult for a one loss Miami team to make the playoffs.

Our history with the BCS alone should tell us this.

Being behind TCU at this point is completely absurd regardless of how you want to spin it. Pointing out that we control our own destiny isn't an argument. Saying that we got ourselves in this position by playing down to our competition isn't a sound argument.

When debating whether TCU should be ahead of Miami there is only one logical explanation – committee bias.

Our history with the BCS? We were ranked #2 by people in 2000. Computers kept us at #3 because of the La Tech debacle.

Beating La Tech by 10 is a debacle?

Like I said, Miami is held to such a high standard that we aren't allowed to simply beat teams. We have to beat them down.

TCU's loss is viewed more favorably than our close wins.

If I recall correctly, we did sleepwalk through that La Tech game, while the same weekend, FSU absolutely pasted NC State....we never really recovered from that, as the computers at the time loved that margin of victory.
 
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"Miami and Notre Dame control their own destiny". - ESPN round table

If we win out we are in the playoffs. I think everyone gets that.

As I've said before my issue is that in the future I know it will be incredibly difficult for a one loss Miami team to make the playoffs.

Our history with the BCS alone should tell us this.

Being behind TCU at this point is completely absurd regardless of how you want to spin it. Pointing out that we control our own destiny isn't an argument. Saying that we got ourselves in this position by playing down to our competition isn't a sound argument.

When debating whether TCU should be ahead of Miami there is only one logical explanation – committee bias.

Our history with the BCS? We were ranked #2 by people in 2000. Computers kept us at #3 because of the La Tech debacle.

Beating La Tech by 10 is a debacle?

Like I said, Miami is held to such a high standard that we aren't allowed to simply beat teams. We have to beat them down.

TCU's loss is viewed more favorably than our close wins.

If I recall correctly, we did sleepwalk through that La Tech game, while the same weekend, FSU absolutely pasted NC State....we never really recovered from that, as the computers at the time loved that margin of victory.

That guy lost all credibility when he questioned the La Tech game. It was absolutely the reason why we fell to number three that year. We should have destroyed that team but only won by ten in the MOV era.
 
if we lose a close game to ND, we should drop 1 spot to #8 (below Wisconsin) or possibly not at all if OU/TCU isnt a close game. Of course, the committee will have us around 10-12 which will effectively end any chance of us getting in as a 1 loss ACC champ.
 
My biggest grievance here is that they're setting up Alabama and Georgia big time by putting Auburn at 10.

Auburn is ahead of USC, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State and Oklahoma State despite having the worst SOS of the 6 and the 2nd worst SOR.

Even if Auburn loses to Georgia (unless its a blowout) they'll stick around the top 13 or 14, blow out a Sun Belt team and probably pop back into the top 10 or 11 heading into the Iron Bowl, when they should be 15th at best right now.
 
Atleast our admin is ahead of the game and saw this coming. Don’t we have an sec team scheduled every year for like the next ten years? We should never have this one loss issue again.
 
Atleast our admin is ahead of the game and saw this coming. Don’t we have an sec team scheduled every year for like the next ten years? We should never have this one loss issue again.

From now until 2021 we have LSU, UF, @Michigan State, Alabama, Sparty, Texas A&M home and home

We do have to go to Toledo next year which is a noodle scratcher.
 
#7.

Bull****.

Should be above TCU.

But who the **** cares?

I'd like to personally thank the committee for the disrespect.

Our kids showed last week that they use the hate as motivation, so keep pouring it on.

Let's crush the Golden givin' Domers, and they can't keep us out.

There's no disrespect, beat ND and Clemson and Miami is in. One of TCU or Oklahoma will be eliminated this week. That would put UGA, Alabama, Miami and TCU/Oklahoma. Miami controls its own destiny. The only real threat to this is from Wisconsin. Course if you lose you're done, only Alabama or Georgia could survive a loss this late in the year.
 
So in what scneario of us winning out do we not make the college football playoff? Please enlighten me.

Exactly. I want to see the scenario that has 12-0 Miami at #5 . This should be good.



You didn't listen last week, why will you listen this week?

Notre Dame is already NUMBER THREE because they lost to NUMBER ONE. What makes you think that the 1-point loser of Alabama-UGa will drop below us?

Notre Dame, VaTech, and Clemson might still lose games, and be lesser "quality victories" over the next month.

Wisconsin and Washington COULD jump us.

Any one of those three things, or all three of those things, could happen. But you still won't admit it.

All of you nitwits are basing your arguments on the CFP suddenly getting smart and realizing that undefeated teams should be ranked higher than 1-loss teams. Which, of course, hasn't happened for 2 weeks. And there are only 4 votes left.

Wisconsin jumping us with no top 15 wins?
 
Lets see what happens this weekend first.

Still a path for a 1-loss ACCCG Miami to get to the playoffs.....but needs a little help.

Pecking Order for playoffs in that scenario will be:

1) Undefeated or 1-loss SEC CHAMP Bama or UGA
2) 1-Loss Notre Dame
3) 1-Loss OU/TCU B12 Champ (will take OU or TCU beating the other twice most likely)
4) 11-2 SEC Champ Auburn (who beat UGA, Bama and UGA again in a 4 week period)
or
4) 1-loss UGA or Bama whose loss is in SECCG
5) Undefeated B10 Champ Wisconsin


1-Loss ACC Champ Miami in a true world should be 6 at that point need just a little help at that point.....but who knows. If that help happens these are the teams would be in the mix.

- If Auburn beats Bama and UGA.......SECCG game becomes an elimination game. But will committee do the right thing and put 11-1 Bama who came in 2nd in their division and whose best win may be over a bottom top 25 LSU behind 1-loss Conference Champs in rankings? Best scenario. Auburn beats UGA, Bama Beat Auburn, Bama beats UGA....knocking out Auburn and UGA.
- Does 12-1 PAC12 Champ Washington who will not have a win near the caliber of beating Clemson and a loss far worse than ND stay behind Miami?
- Does a 2-loss B12 Champ OU/TCU get put behind Miami?
- Does a 1-loss B10 Champ Wisc who loses to Mich or Iowa at home stay behind Miami?
- Does a 2-loss B10 Champ OSU/MSU jump Miami?
- Can Miami leap past a 2-loss Notre Dame who gets upset by Stanford or Navy?


Too me those are the questions and the teams that are in the playoff hunt.
 
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Gotta win out.

Lose to ND and even a ACC championship most likely isn't getting Miami in the playoff without help.

It all comes down to perceived "big wins" and FSU sucking has hurt Miami in this department. That win is as meaningless as one against Pitt now. If FSU ended up with a solid 9 or 10 win season, that win would be something Miami could hang their hat on. Since FSU sucks, Miami literally has VT, ND and Clemson in the ACCCG as games that "matter". If Miami loses one of those three games, they're toast. Without help.
 
"The committee hates us!!!!"

Oh, really? Then why did we jump past undefeated Wisconsin, and why is Wisconsin also behind three one-loss teams?

"Uh..........TCU!!!!"

Still won't answer my question?

Here it is again:

Do you believe TCU & Oklahoma's losses to Iowa State are more impressive than Miami losing to no one?
 
The committee always says that winning a Conference Championship is something high on their priority list when deciding the top 4.

So as long as Miami wins their Conference against a top 4 team I think we will be okay no matter what happens.
Especially since the Conference Miami would win has had a representative in the National Championship game 3 of the last 4 seasons. And the team Miami would beat has represented in the National Championship game the last two seasons.

Committee members may not be the smartest people in the World but they at least know those things.
 
"The committee hates us!!!!"

Oh, really? Then why did we jump past undefeated Wisconsin, and why is Wisconsin also behind three one-loss teams?

"Uh..........TCU!!!!"

Still won't answer my question?

Here it is again:

Do you believe TCU & Oklahoma's losses to Iowa State are more impressive than Miami losing to no one?

Again, it's a measure of a season, not a game. TCU and Oklahoma have had more impressive seasons than Miami. That's why we're #7 and the only people on the planet who think it's some kind of injustice.
 
"The committee hates us!!!!"

Oh, really? Then why did we jump past undefeated Wisconsin, and why is Wisconsin also behind three one-loss teams?

"Uh..........TCU!!!!"

Still won't answer my question?

Here it is again:

Do you believe TCU & Oklahoma's losses to Iowa State are more impressive than Miami losing to no one?

Again, it's a measure of a season, not a game. TCU and Oklahoma have had more impressive seasons than Miami. That's why we're #7 and the only people on the planet who think it's some kind of injustice.

So, in stating that TCU & Oklahoma have had more impressive seasons than Miami, you are affirming that you do believe that their losses to Iowa State are somehow more impressive than Miami losing to no one.

Let that sink in.
 
So, in stating that TCU & Oklahoma have had more impressive seasons than Miami, you are affirming that you do believe that their losses to Iowa State are somehow more impressive than Miami losing to no one.

Let that sink in.

"Let that sink in" is one of those lines that shows your age. Come back from 2003.

You really just need to come out and say that you believe the rankings should be auto-sorted by record. The 0-loss teams are automatically first, then the 1-loss teams are automatically next. There's nothing wrong with having a crazy opinion like that. Just own it.

The rest of us agree that the totality of a season may have a 1-loss team ahead of a 0-loss team. Notre Dame is better than Wisconsin and has had a better season than Wisconsin. That's why Notre Dame is #3 with one loss and Wisconsin is #8 with zero losses. The committee believes that the total seasons of OU and TCU are more impressive than what Miami and Wisconsin have done. They are right.
 
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So, in stating that TCU & Oklahoma have had more impressive seasons than Miami, you are affirming that you do believe that their losses to Iowa State are somehow more impressive than Miami losing to no one.

Let that sink in.

"Let that sink in" is one of those lines that shows your age. Come back from 2003.

You really just need to come out and say that you believe the rankings should be auto-sorted by record. The 0-loss teams are automatically first, then the 1-loss teams are automatically next. There's nothing wrong with having a crazy opinion like that. Just own it.

The rest of us agree that the totality of a season may have a 1-loss team ahead of a 0-loss team. Notre Dame is better than Wisconsin and has had a better season than Wisconsin. That's why Notre Dame is #3 with one loss and Wisconsin is #8 with zero losses. The committee believes that the total seasons of OU and TCU are more impressive than what Miami and Wisconsin have done. They are right.

No, that's not my opinion of the situation, so I won't own it.

You said you believe TCU & Oklahoma have had more impressive seasons than Miami has had to this point. That means that, in your opinion, their losses to a 3-loss mediocre Iowa State are more impressive than Miami losing to no one.

Sure, it's a ridiculous opinion, but as you put it, "Just own it."
 
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