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Playoff rankings Miami #7

Really blows my mind that **** teams like clemson, TCU, and oklahoma are still ahead of us. Especially Clemson seeing as we beat the team they lost to and beat their best win bigger than they did.
 
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cooks002 said:
drifters1234 said:
Tad Footeball said:
Dumbest take on this board (by sometimes otherwise intelligent people): "Nothing matters! If we win out then we're in!"

Well thanks. Thank you for setting the bar higher for us than any other program aside from Wisconsin (with an incomparably weak schedule). Please remember your standards if we somehow lose a 1 pt game to Notre Dame and then beat Clemson. Or smash Notre Dame and lose to Clemson in OT.

I'm not in the business of EVER predicting a Canes loss but for chrissakes- some of us need to learn how to play this narrative game a little better and wayyyyy earlier. The SEC starts excusing losses in like week 1.
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Nonsense. Barely beating unranked teams followed by squeaking by a horrifically bad UNC team put us in this position. Had we rolled over our schedule, then we’d get the benefit of the doubt among one-loss teams. We didn’t so going undefeated is how we get in the playoff.
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You know what's worse than barely winning? Barely losing. The two teams ahead of us both lost to Iowa State. Oklahoma just gave up 52 points! Oklahoma won by 5 against Texas, 8 to BAYLOR, and 7 to Kansas St. How are those teams looking this year?
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I agree both should be behind us.
 
In my opinion, there is only one possible scenarios where if we win out we don't make it in. That would be if ND loses the rest of its games, Clemsons loses the rest of its games, GA & AL play the most overtimes in history in the SEC Championsip and Bama wins and then OK & TCU play forever until they decide it a tie. I'm pretty sure none of this happens.

When Miami beats #3 ND, and Clemson wins out, we will beat another #3 team. That would be two wins over a #3 and win over #13 . Not to many better resumes.

TCU and OK will clear one or the other out of the way, we will clear Clemson out of the way, and GA or AL will clear one or the other out of the way. With a common opponent in ND with GA and us unbeaten, they couldn't leave either AL or GA, whoever loses, ahead of us.

I can't think of a single scenario from here on out where if we win out we don't get in. Just my opinion. I really could care less what the rankings are right now. Just keep winning each week and it will all work out.
 
A one loss conference champion Miami(loss to Notre Dame) should be in the college football playoff unless Wisconsin runs the table. In this scenario the locks would be the Sec champion and Notre Dame. That leaves two spots for 3 teams out of sec loser tcu/Oklahoma(if winner of game runs the table), and a 1 loss acc champion Miami who lost to the number 2 team in the nation. Just don’t see how we can get left out in that scenario defeating the defending national champs and having the ACC championship and a good loss on the resume should be better then the non conference championship of the sec loser or the worse loss of an Oklahoma or tcu.

We will see but i just keep thinking back to 2000 when number 3 Florida state got in over number 2 Miami. I was a kid so I’m still confused by that but yea easy way would be to win out but imo a one loss ACC champion and the one loss is to a top 2 team should be the 3rd team in the CFP.
 
PCBcanefan said:
In my opinion, there is only one possible scenarios where if we win out we don't make it in. That would be if ND loses the rest of its games, Clemsons loses the rest of its games, GA & AL play the most overtimes in history in the SEC Championsip and Bama wins and then OK & TCU play forever until they decide it a tie. I'm pretty sure none of this happens.

When Miami beats #3 ND, and Clemson wins out, we will beat another #3 team. That would be two wins over a #3 and win over #13 . Not to many better resumes.

TCU and OK will clear one or the other out of the way, we will clear Clemson out of the way, and GA or AL will clear one or the other out of the way. With a common opponent in ND with GA and us unbeaten, they couldn't leave either AL or GA, whoever loses, ahead of us.

I can't think of a single scenario from here on out where if we win out we don't get in. Just my opinion. I really could care less what the rankings are right now. Just keep winning each week and it will all work out.
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If we win out there is no discussion necessary. We will be in.
 
canesthing3 said:
If we win out, there is 0.0 chance that we don't make the playoffs..
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You're late to this thread. The debate isn't whether we win out, but why a 1 loss Miami will likely never have a shot at the CFB playoffs.

The committee, as expected, has a love affair w the SEC, despite this being one of the worst years for that conference. LSU still ranked? (to inflate Bama's **** schedule). LSU got boat raced at home by Troy. Were down 17 at one point I believe.

And Auburn the highest 2 loss? Gtfoh. Auburn's best win is over #18 Miss St. Mark my word - they will lose to UGA and Bama and still be ranked in top 15-20. I mean they are #10 at this point lol. Their coach is on the hot seat too. If he loses both of those games he might be fired.

****, I would put a 3 loss Iowa St over Auburn at this point. 2 top 6 wins.
Michigan St also has a better resume, etc etc.

The SEC has 2 teams - UGA and Bama. The rest are fvckin garbage. How many coaches are getting fired in that league? It's a **** conference at the moment and should be treated that way.

And TCU ahead of Miami is an absolute travesty. You could also argue that Clemson and OU shouldn't be ahead of us either. But TCU is the obvious one.
 
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unreal that oklahoma gives up 52 pts and gets rewarded. best is clemson loses to cuse, next week has a bye when we easily beat cuse and jumps ahead of us
 
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Some of you are so delusional and fall right into the hands of these polls and the hype they create.

With 4 weeks left, there is nothing to worry about except winning out. just last week everyone was in a panic about OSU and PSU and look at those kid touchers now.

If we win out, we are in. Period.
 
Jaromir Jagr said:
JgDaCane said:
Jaromir Jagr said:
JgDaCane said:
Jaromir Jagr said:
So we have a clear path into the top four. Just like I tried to explain to those buffoons all week.
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Do you mean with a loss to ND?
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What?
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I mean we obviously are in if we’re undefeated. I’m asking do you think we have a chance as a 1 loss ACC champ
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No, we are out with a loss unless it's one of those seasons in which everyone loses again.
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This is where the disrespect comes in. If we are a 1 loss ACC Champ we aren't afforded the same luxury as a 1 loss OK, 1 loss TCU, or 1 loss Clemson.
 
And the fact that they keep pushing this 2 SEC teams in the playoff bull**** narrative hurts our chances even more. Who in the **** wants to see UGA and Bama play in the SEC championship, and then turn right back around as #1 and #4 and play again? That should be a de facto play-in game. Should never have 2 teams from the same conference in the playoffs, because that leaves this whole BS committee too much room for subjectivity. The whole "4 best teams" bull**** argument is a farce. All these teams look sooooo great until they lose to some ****** unranked team (Syracuse).
 
I was watching the show last night since when is a loss to a good team better then a win vs a bad team. I understand rewarding big wins but rewarding a defeat of any kind is stupid unless it’s a common opponennet scenario(even though if we lost to the the number 3 team that should mean we have a good loss which is kinda like a win i guess).

The argument is a one loss ACC champion and bringing recent history into we should get in. Last year Clemson had a worse loss to Pitt a near defeat to nc state (missed a 23 yard field goal to win the game), and two big wins over Florida state and auburn(kinda like our Florida state win this year) and Virginia Tech. We will have similar wins vs a top teams if not better in Clemson, vtech, FSU and a way better loss in Notre Dame.

On paper a one loss ACC champion Miami should be in and compared to history as recent as last year we should be in with a better resume then Clemson had last year. Oklahoma and tcu both have close wins and loss to worse opponents. The SEC loser is not a conference champion which they said is a major component in determining the playoff. Plus we beat a top 4 team if we beat Clemson and loss to a top 4 team Notre Dame. Wisconsin running the table is the only team that would have an argument against us.

There is no way that a one loss ACC champion and that one loss is to number 3 media darling Notre Dame does not make it into the CFP unless there is some major bull**** voter bias. The big 12 is the second worst conference in college football the acc is the second best there is once again no scenario other then an undefeated Wisconsin that Miam should not beat in as A one loss ACC champion.
 
"The committee hates us!!!!"

Oh, really? Then why did we jump past undefeated Wisconsin, and why is Wisconsin also behind three one-loss teams?

"Uh..........TCU!!!!"
 
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unreal that oklahoma gives up 52 pts and gets rewarded. best is clemson loses to cuse, next week has a bye when we easily beat cuse and jumps ahead of us
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They've had several close games as well. They get praised of it, while we get bashed.

Honestly, this is good though. We ****ed off and gonna knock the Gold off the Domers.
 
HarryCarayisGoat said:
Some of you are so delusional and fall right into the hands of these polls and the hype they create.

With 4 weeks left, there is nothing to worry about except winning out. just last week everyone was in a panic about OSU and PSU and look at those kid touchers now.

If we win out, we are in. Period.
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Not sure why folks negged this post.

He's right. If everything goes to plan, we play 2 of the teams ahead of us (ND, Clemson). Absolutely nothing to worry about this week.

Just keep winning and we're in.
 
Have you guys ever considered that both sides CAN be right?

Should we be objectively ranked ahead of TCU & Oklahoma UP TO THIS POINT? Probably. Good arguments here. There is even an argument to be made that we should be ahead of Clemson. Is there a possibility that we could JUMP a one loss TCU or Oklahoma by the end of the season....even if we lost this weekend? Possibly but unlikely. TCU really hasn't beaten anyone of note outside of OKST. I think objectively speaking Oklahoma has an even more suspect resume. Numerous one score wins against sub-par opponents. Difference being, their road win @OSU. The committee is giving a **** of a lot of weight to that win atm. The committee is obviously weighing Clemsons wins VS. Auburn, VT & NCSU much more than their loss to Syracuse (committee said it devalued that loss, based on injured QB).

Have we been completely underwhelming in almost EVERY game this year OUTSIDE of the VT game last week? Yep. We haven't done the best job convincing the rest of the country that we are "BACK" or for real. ****, read our message boards after each game this year (even Bethune). We haven't put together a complete game yet (VT close - turnovers).

The thing we can take from this whole scenario up till this point is:

1.) How you win matters. The eye test matters. Feelings/emotion matter.

2.) The committee values good wins a lot more than losses. (Even though it's tough to justify TCU's ranking)

3.) The committee hasn't been afraid to shake things up on a weekly basis based on the totality of season. It's fluid. They did it last year during the last rankings w/TCU. If we start playing cleaner and more impressively, I would assume it would reflect in our rankings.

I personally don't think it's an anti-Miami bias. I highly doubt we will have this constant issue w/ the committee just because we are Miami. Once we start proving consistently we are BACK and playing clean/dominant football we'll get the respect.

I do believe that there is a pro-SEC bias, obviously, but that is a separate issue.
 
Clemson is the one I really don't understand, as it lost to an UNRANKED team. I don't care that it was on the road and that the Carrier Dome is a tough place to play....how does that team continually get a pass for that?

Oh well, no big deal....if we want to go anywhere, we will likely have to get through Clemson anyway, so it really doesn't affect us. I'm just trying to understand the committee's justification there.
 
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