Playoff rankings Miami #7

[ddann]

Good job.

And this means TCU & Oklahoma should still be ranked ahead of Miami, how?

Still waiting...

The same reason why you agree that 17 teams should be ranked ahead of UCF. Schedule matters.

Awesome.

So losing to Iowa State at home when Iowa State is starting a backup QB means your schedule is more impressive than beating UNC on the road.

I think I see it now.

If you keep changing the topic we're going to be talking about the moon landing soon. Does schedule matter to you or not?

Yes, I am the one who keeps changing the topic. Got it.

I basically just restated the same thing I've been saying from the beginning in this thread.

Nice deflection, though.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Yes, I am the one who keeps changing the topic. Got it.

I basically just restated the same thing I've been saying from the beginning in this thread.

Nice deflection, though.

You're running from the question. Does schedule matter or not?

 

[Poptimus]

I agree with those who think that we should be ranked ahead of OU and TCU right now. And, yes, it matters because like others have mentioned we pretty much have to win out to make the playoffs. Could we get in with a loss? Sure. But there are myriad permutations out there, it's not worth discussing how maybe a 3 point loss to Notre Dame, but a 20 point win over Clemson matches up to, say, TCU beating OU by 1, but then losing the following game by 14. Bottom line is some of these clowns on the committee think like some guys here insofar as a "bad" win is somehow worse than a "good" loss. We're undefeated. Yet we now have to run the gauntlet and beat the current #3 and #4 teams when no one else has remotely such a tough course.

And FWIW, I firmly believe that if UGA and Bama are undefeated, the loser of the SEC championship game will remain in the top 4, barring some complete thumping by one of them in that game.

 

[CaneOil]

So we have a clear path into the top four. Just like I tried to explain to those buffoons all week.

Do you mean with a loss to ND?

What?

I mean we obviously are in if we’re undefeated. I’m asking do you think we have a chance as a 1 loss ACC champ

No

 

[ddann]

Yes, I am the one who keeps changing the topic. Got it.

I basically just restated the same thing I've been saying from the beginning in this thread.

Nice deflection, though.

You're running from the question. Does schedule matter or not?

Yes, I'm running from the question.

But seriously, if you do ever figure out how TCU & Oklahoma, with their impressive losses to Iowa State, should be ranked ahead of Miami I would like to hear it. (And don't forget, schedule matters!)

 

[Notsince1985]

Everyone keeps saying just win. Well, not ****, but that's what some people are trying to point out. Other teams apparently don't have to "just win." There are teams ahead of us with losses.

 

[GenericYesMan]

Everyone keeps saying just win. Well, not ****, but that's what some people are trying to point out. Other teams apparently don't have to "just win." There are teams ahead of us with losses.

Anyone who lived through 2000 knows win and you're is a fraudulent line of thought.

 

[Caniac16]

Everyone keeps saying just win. Well, not ****, but that's what some people are trying to point out. Other teams apparently don't have to "just win." There are teams ahead of us with losses.

My friend, there is literally an argument going on in this thread where someone believes even if we win out we might not make the playoff. So clearly it is not a no **** scenario.

 

[cooks002]

Nonsense. Barely beating unranked teams followed by squeaking by a horrifically bad UNC team put us in this position. Had we rolled over our schedule, then we’d get the benefit of the doubt among one-loss teams. We didn’t so going undefeated is how we get in the playoff.

You what's worse than barely winning? Barely losing. The two teams ahead of us both lost to Iowa State. Oklahoma just gave up 52 points! Oklahoma won by 5 against Texas, 8 to BAYLOR, and 7 to Kansas St. How are those teams looking this year?

You just compared Texas and Kansas State to North Carolina?

Nice try; Baylor is arguably the worst Power 5 team in the country. Texas and Kansas State a combined 9-9 on the season, comparable to the unranked teams that we "barely beat". At the end of the day there is no comparison because we won all of our games. Oklahoma didn't.

You compared Texas and Kansas State to UNC. I think you realized the epic stupidity of that comment, that's why you're on the defensive now.

I responded to the comment

Barely beating unranked teams followed by squeaking by a horrifically bad UNC team put us in this position. Had we rolled over our schedule, then we’d get the benefit of the doubt among one-loss teams.

with

Oklahoma won by 5 against Texas, 8 to BAYLOR, and 7 to Kansas St. How are those teams looking this year?

Your simpleton interpretation of my statement just means your are dumb; nothing more.

 

[iLoveTDs]

"Miami and Notre Dame control their own destiny". - ESPN round table

If we win out we are in the playoffs. I think everyone gets that.

As I've said before my issue is that in the future I know it will be incredibly difficult for a one loss Miami team to make the playoffs.

Our history with the BCS alone should tell us this.

Being behind TCU at this point is completely absurd regardless of how you want to spin it. Pointing out that we control our own destiny isn't an argument. Saying that we got ourselves in this position by playing down to our competition isn't a sound argument.

When debating whether TCU should be ahead of Miami there is only one logical explanation – committee bias.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Yes, I am the one who keeps changing the topic. Got it.

I basically just restated the same thing I've been saying from the beginning in this thread.

Nice deflection, though.

You're running from the question. Does schedule matter or not?

Yes, I'm running from the question.

But seriously, if you do ever figure out how TCU & Oklahoma, with their impressive losses to Iowa State, should be ranked ahead of Miami I would like to hear it. (And don't forget, schedule matters!)

Yes, I agree that schedule matters. Oklahoma and TCU have good wins. They both have a loss to a ranked team. We had a bad pass bounce off a facemask on 4th down and then had to hold off 1-7 UNC on a game winning drive. That stuff matters because we looked like sht. Quit acting like EVERY win is better than EVERY loss.

If that's you're take, then UCF is top 5.

 

[Bird4um]

We should be ahead of TCU. BUt who cares. Winning will fix it. We beat ND we will be ahead. We lose your point is moot.

 

[NorthEastCane]

Nobody said "thinking otherwise". This has NOTHING to do with anyone's opinion, it has to do with looking at how the CFP are voting.

"Miami hasn't beaten anyone". Then we do. They move us up ONE SPOT over teams ahead of us who won.

Not to mention the fact that Ohio Taint and Ped State already lost.

So, again, we were ASSISTED by factors outside of our control. Do you honestly believe that if Ohio Taint and Ped State had won that we would be any higher than [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=9]#9 [/URL] ?

Yes, we are going to benefit from other teams losing. It is NOT all about Miami "winning out". Just as I said last week.

You're wrong. It is all about Miami winning out. If we win out, we are in. Simple as that. That would be two top-10 wins and a third top-15 win.

And they aren't "Top 10" and "Top 15" wins until the END of the season.

Not sure why people can't handle two concepts at the same time.

Miami needs to win. Miami needs certain teams to win (our opponents, when we aren't playing them) and lose (everyone else possible).

Two simple concepts. But people are in denial that for the second time in a row, Notre Dame, Clemson, Oklahoma, and TCU are ahead of us.

We need several dominoes to go down, and not just 4 UM wins.

Unlike certain buffoons, I have never claimed that nobody ahead of us would lose, only that we needed them to lose. If they all kept winning, we were going to get stuck at the bottom of the Top 10. If 2 massive upsets didn't just happen, we would be sitting at #9 .

Nobody can deny that. But certain nitwits are going to project the end of the season the way that they want to.

Look, I don't think we should be behind ANY of the 1-loss teams. But we are. And we only jumped 1-loss teams that went to 2-loss teams. That's not my imagination or opinion.

We control some things, and we need some help.

You need to relax. We're seventh. We play two of the teams above us and the other four teams face off against each other. If we win out, we're in; there no way the loser of the SEC championship game gets in over an undefeated Miami. In fact, it will be the loser of that game that will need help, that other 1 loss teams will lose.

There's no way the loser of the SEC CG gets in over an undefeated Miami?

Why, because you say so?

There is already a 1-loss team at #3 who lost to #1 . ALREADY. Why do you think that the CFP would punish Alabama for losing by 1 to UGa in Atlanta?

You are just willfully ignoring ACTUAL EVIDENCE that the CFP is already voting FOUR 1-loss teams ahead of Miami. Just because you want it to be different doesn't make it different.

I know it's been a while since we've been in it this late but you seem new to this. No team has lost the last game of the year and got onto the playoffs, or before that, a championship match up in a bowl game. In fact, on both of our one loss championships, we lost the first game of the year. Look at the history, it's extremely rare for the eventual champion to have lost late in the season. (The only one that comes to mind is when FSU jumped us in 2000). Late season loses are given more weight than early season losses. A team needs to be peaking to get the benefit of the doubt.

 

[5NC4]

I don't understand why anybody would be concerned about this.

Win this weekend and they jump over the 3 defeated teams.

Too much can happen between now and when the final 4 are announced after conference championship games.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Your simpleton interpretation of my statement just means your are dumb; nothing more.

Thank you for that gem.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

"Miami and Notre Dame control their own destiny". - ESPN round table

If we win out we are in the playoffs. I think everyone gets that.

As I've said before my issue is that in the future I know it will be incredibly difficult for a one loss Miami team to make the playoffs.

Our history with the BCS alone should tell us this.

Being behind TCU at this point is completely absurd regardless of how you want to spin it. Pointing out that we control our own destiny isn't an argument. Saying that we got ourselves in this position by playing down to our competition isn't a sound argument.

When debating whether TCU should be ahead of Miami there is only one logical explanation – committee bias.

Our history with the BCS? We were ranked #2 by people in 2000. Computers kept us at #3 because of the La Tech debacle.

 

[cooks002]

Your simpleton interpretation of my statement just means your are dumb; nothing more.

Thank you for that gem.

Bahaha! Mere slip of the finger. My point still stands.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

When debating whether TCU should be ahead of Miami there is only one logical explanation – committee bias.

So the committee is biased against Wisconsin?

That's the question that obliterates every argument you people are trying to make.

 

[Notsince1985]

Everyone keeps saying just win. Well, not ****, but that's what some people are trying to point out. Other teams apparently don't have to "just win." There are teams ahead of us with losses.

My friend, there is literally an argument going on in this thread where someone believes even if we win out we might not make the playoff. So clearly it is not a no **** scenario.

That person is dumb and should be ignored.

 

[ddann]

Yes, I am the one who keeps changing the topic. Got it.

I basically just restated the same thing I've been saying from the beginning in this thread.

Nice deflection, though.

You're running from the question. Does schedule matter or not?

Yes, I'm running from the question.

But seriously, if you do ever figure out how TCU & Oklahoma, with their impressive losses to Iowa State, should be ranked ahead of Miami I would like to hear it. (And don't forget, schedule matters!)

Yes, I agree that schedule matters. Oklahoma and TCU have good wins. They both have a loss to a ranked team. We had a bad pass bounce off a facemask on 4th down and then had to hold off 1-7 UNC on a game winning drive.

So you believe that TCU and Oklahoma losing to Iowa State is more impressive than Miami losing to no one?