Playoff money

[Groz73Cane]

Could you imagine being on BC's staff? Or being Fran Brown right now? BC, Cuse, UVA, NC State, Duke, Cal ... and put FSU in that bucket. They are hopelessly behind and falling further behind.

Miami
Clemson
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UL
SMU
VT
Pitt
UNC
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Everyone else including FSU

Clemson is barely keeping up. They stubbornly refused to partake in the NIL/portal race at the get go. Then hesitantly got in and now are behind the game. Not that they can’t catch up, but their head coach still seems to give a half hearted endorsement for NIL and portal usage. I could be wrong but from where they were recruiting top guys to where they are now is shocking. Just sayin’

 

[grover]

Clemson is barely keeping up. They stubbornly refused to partake in the NIL/portal race at the get go. Then hesitantly got in and now are behind the game. Not that they can’t catch up, but their head coach still seems to give a half hearted endorsement for NIL and portal usage. I could be wrong but from where they were recruiting top guys to where they are now is shocking. Just sayin’

Good call. They could truly be unable to keep up in the NIL era, in which case I've overestimated their value going forward.

I captured the last 10 years of Clemson's HS recruiting rankings overall and ACC below. They are vastly underrecruiting if they want to be a playoff team considering Dabo wasn't in the portal until last season and only barely then (3 guys, #45 team ranking).

This 2026 portal class and 2027 high school class will be critical for them to either go "up or out".

Mario Era
2026: 19 | 4th after Canes, FSU, UNC
2025: 23 | 3rd after Canes, FSU
2024: 14 | 3rd after Canes, FSU
2023: 11 | 2nd after Canes
2022: 14 | 3rd after UNC, Canes
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Pre-Mario Era
2021 #5 / #1 ACC
2020 #3 / #1 ACC
2019 #9 / #1 ACC
2018 #6 / #1 ACC
2017 #11 / #2 ACC after FSU

 

[canesbaby]

This is the clearest picture that I’ve seen so far of how the top teams keep stacking dollars on top of dollars and move further and further away from the pack. Well done by Mario to insist on extreme investment in the program before he would come here. This is the result. We are almost at a point where NIL is fully paid for by the playoff/bowl money with less and less private investment needed. Self sustaining is good.

 

[Groz73Cane]

Good call. They could truly be unable to keep up in the NIL era, in which case I've overestimated their value going forward.

I captured the last 10 years of Clemson's HS recruiting rankings overall and ACC below. They are vastly underrecruiting if they want to be a playoff team considering Dabo wasn't in the portal until last season and only barely then (3 guys, #45 team ranking).

This 2026 portal class and 2027 high school class will be critical for them to either go "up or out".

Mario Era
2026: 19 | 4th after Canes, FSU, UNC
2025: 23 | 3rd after Canes, FSU
2024: 14 | 3rd after Canes, FSU
2023: 11 | 2nd after Canes
2022: 14 | 3rd after UNC, Canes
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Pre-Mario Era
2021 #5 / #1 ACC
2020 #3 / #1 ACC
2019 #9 / #1 ACC
2018 #6 / #1 ACC
2017 #11 / #2 ACC after FSU

Thanks for the stats to back up what I was thinking

 

[CamWardEnthusiast]

Yup, while the acc spoon feeds games to them and they wanted the acc to pull for them for cfp selection.

pussies should join a conference

 

[grover]

Thanks for the stats to back up what I was thinking

You nailed it. I hadn't realized how far they had fallen. Pathetic that Miami is the only team in the ACC recruiting at a playoff caliber. Big12 is even more of a joke, with TT at #20 the top recruiting team this class, TCU last class at #26, etc.

I sure hope that makes us the most attractive target during the next conference realignment. We are crushing everyone else outside the P2 in recruiting and viewership.

 

[dirtyred786]

Good call. They could truly be unable to keep up in the NIL era, in which case I've overestimated their value going forward.

I captured the last 10 years of Clemson's HS recruiting rankings overall and ACC below. They are vastly underrecruiting if they want to be a playoff team considering Dabo wasn't in the portal until last season and only barely then (3 guys, #45 team ranking).

This 2026 portal class and 2027 high school class will be critical for them to either go "up or out".

Mario Era
2026: 19 | 4th after Canes, FSU, UNC
2025: 23 | 3rd after Canes, FSU
2024: 14 | 3rd after Canes, FSU
2023: 11 | 2nd after Canes
2022: 14 | 3rd after UNC, Canes
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Pre-Mario Era
2021 #5 / #1 ACC
2020 #3 / #1 ACC
2019 #9 / #1 ACC
2018 #6 / #1 ACC
2017 #11 / #2 ACC after FSU

Yeah its strange whats going on at Clemson. Its like they were fine and okay with paying a little bit under the table, but when NIL hit and now its time to fork up that money above board, they didnt want to participate. Which equated to them falling way behind.

 

[Groz73Cane]

You nailed it. I hadn't realized how far they had fallen. Pathetic that Miami is the only team in the ACC recruiting at a playoff caliber. Big12 is even more of a joke, with TT at #20 the top recruiting team this class, TCU last class at #26, etc.

I sure hope that makes us the most attractive target during the next conference realignment. We are crushing everyone else outside the P2 in recruiting and viewership.

Proof is in the Pudding. We’re in the CFP bc when it comes to recruiting NIL/Portal/HS,.. We Fuccin, they ain’t

 

[Groz73Cane]

Yeah it’s strange whats going on at Clemson. It’s like they were fine and okay with paying a little bit under the table, but when NIL hit and now its time to fork up that money above board, they didnt want to participate. Which equated to them falling way behind.

Maybe they just don’t have the cash to compete, or hubris and old habits die hard. They’re still living in that old school good old boy mindset. Whatever, Money Talks, B*lls**t walks. And, Dabo is the King of BS. He’s so full of himself and S**t he can’t get over it. Anyhoo,.. We Fuccin, they Ain’t

 

[CocaneCowboy27]

Let's keep stacking then

 

[dirtyred786]

Maybe they just don’t have the cash to compete, or hubris and old habits die hard. They’re still living in that old school good old boy mindset. Whatever, Money Talks, B*lls**t walks. And, Dabo is the King of BS. He’s so full of himself and S**t he can’t get over it. Anyhoo,.. We Fuccin, they Ain’t

I can definitely see them being stuck in that good ole boy frame of mind. Probably thinking, "The nerve of these kids trying to negotiate with us, they should just be happy to take whatever we decide to give em." Lol