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So here is where the #canes rank in the national positional rankings according to Phil Steele:

..QB- 9, RB - 16, WR - 23, OL- 6, Dline -11, LB- 26, DB- 24, ST - 67(by far the lowest and quite frankly can't disagree in terms of the return game and coverage units we saw last season)

My only real disagreement is that the Dline is rated a bit low IMO (which would depend on a healthy '23 version of Ruben Bain) and I think the RB's could be top 15

But across the board, this is a roster that is pretty highly regarded. If Carson Beck can be what he was two seasons ago, this will elevate the whole team.Overall, this is a team that should contend for a birth in the ACC title game. Clemson is loaded this season on both sides of the ball. I expect them to be there. But Cristobal has put together a solid team, overall, regardless







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k9cane said:
So here is where the #canes rank in the national positional rankings according to Phil Steele:

..QB- 9, RB - 16, WR - 23, OL- 6, Dline -11, LB- 26, DB- 24, ST - 67(by far the lowest and quite frankly can't disagree in terms of the return game and coverage units we saw last season)

My only real disagreement is that the Dline is rated a bit low IMO (which would depend on a healthy '23 version of Ruben Bain) and I think the RB's could be top 15

But across the board, this is a roster that is pretty highly regarded. If Carson Beck can be what he was two seasons ago, this will elevate the whole team.Overall, this is a team that should contend for a birth in the ACC title game. Clemson is loaded this season on both sides of the ball. I expect them to be there. But Cristobal has put together a solid team, overall, regardless




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Does the QB ranking take into consideration the room or is it just the starter?
 
k9cane said:
So here is where the #canes rank in the national positional rankings according to Phil Steele:

..QB- 9, RB - 16, WR - 23, OL- 6, Dline -11, LB- 26, DB- 24, ST - 67(by far the lowest and quite frankly can't disagree in terms of the return game and coverage units we saw last season)

My only real disagreement is that the Dline is rated a bit low IMO (which would depend on a healthy '23 version of Ruben Bain) and I think the RB's could be top 15

But across the board, this is a roster that is pretty highly regarded. If Carson Beck can be what he was two seasons ago, this will elevate the whole team.Overall, this is a team that should contend for a birth in the ACC title game. Clemson is loaded this season on both sides of the ball. I expect them to be there. But Cristobal has put together a solid team, overall, regardless




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If it were just Beck, I would rate us higher at QB.

Regarding the DL, to me at all hinges on if Hetherman can stick with his 4i scheme and be effective against playoff level teams. If so, then we should be ranked in the top 10. If we need 2 traditional DT’s out there, we are too thin.

Mildly surprised he rates our DB’s so low given the personnel production at other programs. But we were so bad last year I can’t blame him.
 
k9cane said:
So here is where the #canes rank in the national positional rankings according to Phil Steele:

..QB- 9, RB - 16, WR - 23, OL- 6, Dline -11, LB- 26, DB- 24, ST - 67(by far the lowest and quite frankly can't disagree in terms of the return game and coverage units we saw last season)

My only real disagreement is that the Dline is rated a bit low IMO (which would depend on a healthy '23 version of Ruben Bain) and I think the RB's could be top 15

But across the board, this is a roster that is pretty highly regarded. If Carson Beck can be what he was two seasons ago, this will elevate the whole team.Overall, this is a team that should contend for a birth in the ACC title game. Clemson is loaded this season on both sides of the ball. I expect them to be there. But Cristobal has put together a solid team, overall, regardless




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I know Clemson is getting a lot of hype preseason. Rightfully so, to an extent. A lot of returning players, and that's what Dabo does extremely well at. However this is still the same team as last year.

Until Klubnik can prove to me he's an elite passer, he's not going to win a national title with his legs.

Their OL is good but ours is better. The receivers are good, and will get more praise than deserved. The DL is the best part of the entire team and they're legit. LB and secondary will be exploited early. I'm curious to see what that run game looks like, minus Cade.

Bottom line is Clemson will score with the passing game and Cade can run. Their backfield is extremely questionable. Defensively, our OL will stack up against their DL (it would be the story of the game), but I dont think their defense as a unit is nearly as good as people think. A good offense WILL score on them. We'll see if ours is good.

The most important factor for Clemson is that they normally dont shoot themselves in the foot and will play disciplined. More importantly those players will run through a brick wall for Dabo.
 
k9cane said:
So here is where the #canes rank in the national positional rankings according to Phil Steele:

..QB- 9, RB - 16, WR - 23, OL- 6, Dline -11, LB- 26, DB- 24, ST - 67(by far the lowest and quite frankly can't disagree in terms of the return game and coverage units we saw last season)

My only real disagreement is that the Dline is rated a bit low IMO (which would depend on a healthy '23 version of Ruben Bain) and I think the RB's could be top 15

But across the board, this is a roster that is pretty highly regarded. If Carson Beck can be what he was two seasons ago, this will elevate the whole team.Overall, this is a team that should contend for a birth in the ACC title game. Clemson is loaded this season on both sides of the ball. I expect them to be there. But Cristobal has put together a solid team, overall, regardless




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I think it's acc champ and playoff berth or bust.
 
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I’m honestly shocked that we haven’t thought about using Lucas in a hybrid safety/Corner roll. I think that could hide our depth problem a lot at safety.
 
I actually think thats a bit harsh at DB...

Remains to be seen but I think that group, especially the corners will surprise.
 
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I actually think thats a bit harsh at DB...

Remains to be seen but I think that group, especially the corners will surprise.
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keep this in mind, that ranking still puts Miami in the top 20(or so) percent in the nation. I think much of this rating is based on what we saw last year. As for us, we're hoping the new additions are significantly better
 
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S.CarolinaCane said:
I know Clemson is getting a lot of hype preseason. Rightfully so, to an extent. A lot of returning players, and that's what Dabo does extremely well at. However this is still the same team as last year.

Until Klubnik can prove to me he's an elite passer, he's not going to win a national title with his legs.

Their OL is good but ours is better. The receivers are good, and will get more praise than deserved. The DL is the best part of the entire team and they're legit. LB and secondary will be exploited early. I'm curious to see what that run game looks like, minus Cade.

Bottom line is Clemson will score with the passing game and Cade can run. Their backfield is extremely questionable. Defensively, our OL will stack up against their DL (it would be the story of the game), but I dont think their defense as a unit is nearly as good as people think. A good offense WILL score on them. We'll see if ours is good.

The most important factor for Clemson is that they normally dont shoot themselves in the foot and will play disciplined. More importantly those players will run through a brick wall for Dabo.
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Not agreeing with you on a lot of that. Clemson will be good to very good at linebacker with Sammy brown as a sophomore and they’re always solid in the back 7. Plus the addition of tom Allen. Their receiver triple threat is going to be tops in conference. Don’t think they have anyone at running back.
 
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