CaneSince4Ever
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Charlie Strong =s Will Muschamp.
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we really put the cart before the horse in all this
should've hired a bigtime AD BEFORE we embarked on this
did sam jankovic need all this or did he just reach into the top desk drawer for his list of who had impressed him?
should've hired a bigtime AD BEFORE we embarked on this
did sam jankovic need all this or did he just reach into the top desk drawer for his list of who had impressed him?
Crazy4thecanes
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Just logging on and can't read through all off his but two points I want to add -
1) Matt Porteris a douchebag - not ever ever ever breaking any UM news. He has zero juice
2) I've heard it said (more than once) that Strong does NOT have a buyout at UT.
Unbelievable, I know but I think its true. So...... Carry on.
1) Matt Porteris a douchebag - not ever ever ever breaking any UM news. He has zero juice
2) I've heard it said (more than once) that Strong does NOT have a buyout at UT.
Unbelievable, I know but I think its true. So...... Carry on.
FullyERicht
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Two coaches:
Coach one took over an 8 win elite brand team team, and won 6 games.
Coach two took over a 7 win elite brand team, and won 6 games.
Coach one finished year 2 with at most 6 wins.
Coach two finished year 2 with 7 wins.
Coach one is Strong. Coach 2 is Golden. Al Golden did a better job at a P5 program than Strong. We just fired a guy and want to replace him with someone WORSE?????
Coach one took over an 8 win elite brand team team, and won 6 games.
Coach two took over a 7 win elite brand team, and won 6 games.
Coach one finished year 2 with at most 6 wins.
Coach two finished year 2 with 7 wins.
Coach one is Strong. Coach 2 is Golden. Al Golden did a better job at a P5 program than Strong. We just fired a guy and want to replace him with someone WORSE?????
I never understand "he is not fit for Texas" or any other place for that matter.
If you are an elite coach, you fit everywhere PERIOD. I want an elite coach like Harbaugh, Saban or even Patterson. If none is available then I want someone I can trust who has done it before HERE and has the burning desire to do it again. Even if he couldn't repeat the exact same success he had before. Give me Butch Davis and I will be happy.
If you are an elite coach, you fit everywhere PERIOD. I want an elite coach like Harbaugh, Saban or even Patterson. If none is available then I want someone I can trust who has done it before HERE and has the burning desire to do it again. Even if he couldn't repeat the exact same success he had before. Give me Butch Davis and I will be happy.
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RiDLer80
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Urban went from Bowling Green, to Utah, to Florida to Ohio State.
If you're a good coach you'll win anywhere.
I don't agree with this statement (look at Saban at Mich St, for example), but at Texas a good coach should win.
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Where did this myth start about Saban failing at Michigan State? He took that program from the toilet and turned them into a strong operation. That was not a big time program at all, and all they ever got was the scraps from Michigan, Ohio State, ND, etc.
Who said he failed? He had one good season at MSU and got a job at LSU as a result.
Dantonio has done a lot better at MSU than Saban. (Dantonio > Saban, just like Fedora > Butch, right, Franchise?)
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If you want to make an argument sound good, make chit up. Then hope nobody looks that chit up.
FullyERicht
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Michigan State is a B or C level Power 5 program. It's like Pitt, or Oregon State, or Miss State, or NC State, etc etc etc. He built the program there and then moved on.
Not only was MSU 5-6 on the field pre-Saban, but they had a massive scandal that wiped away all the wins of that season. It was an absolute DUMPSTER, and it's a place that will never, ever win a National Championship bc it will never beat OSU and Michigan and ND for the best players.
Compared to Texas which is the number one resources team in America, one of the strongest brands in America, which won 17 games in the 2 season prior to Strong being hired, with several top 10 classes recruited for him awaiting on the team. He then proceeded to complete **** the bed unlike any coach I have ever seen, including Al Golden.
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You're a limited guy, so I'll break it down simply for you. Saban built MSU from the rubble. He also had to deal with NCAA sanctions handed down because of what happened there under Perles. In his 5th season, he had big success and parlayed that into a better job. Sounds like success to me.
I've never been a Saban nut rider. And I think Dantonio is a great HC. If Dantonio got the Bama job I'm pretty sure he'd do just as good or better than Saban. Clear now?
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Some of these guys don't really follow football or know any history. They just look up stats on Google. They don't understand that Michigan State has always been a B or C level program relegated to the scraps of Michigan and that other powers in the Midwest.
All they know is the last few years under a phenomenal HC, Dantonio, and they assume that MSU is a power program. MSU was an absolute mess when Saban took over for Perles. Perles ran that program into the ground. Saban built it up and moved on to a bigger better job where he excelled with access to better players. That's how it's supposed to work.
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Strong scares me. His time at Texas has been wild. He could have beaten Cal and Okie State this year and 6-4 would look much better, but a missed xp and dropped punt have hurt them. The Oklahoma win was very nice, but then some losses are plain bad.
Last year the defense finished top 25, but this year it's not even close to top 50. I know he kicked guys off the team, but something is not working out with him and Texas. I want to believe he's a good coach, but there's a lot of signs pointing towards that not being the case. But he has some wins that bad coaches don't luck into. Golden was bad and he never lucked into a quality win in 5 years here or during his time at Temple. Strong beat OU, had a good win over Florida at Louisville, almost beat Okie State this year.
It's just confusing. I haven't looked at any of their games closely to see if it's scheme, players, or what. I've casually observed them and that's it.
If anyone has watched them closer, looked at film, etc., I'd be interested to know what is going on. Is he really just getting out coached or are his players making dumb mistakes?
Last year the defense finished top 25, but this year it's not even close to top 50. I know he kicked guys off the team, but something is not working out with him and Texas. I want to believe he's a good coach, but there's a lot of signs pointing towards that not being the case. But he has some wins that bad coaches don't luck into. Golden was bad and he never lucked into a quality win in 5 years here or during his time at Temple. Strong beat OU, had a good win over Florida at Louisville, almost beat Okie State this year.
It's just confusing. I haven't looked at any of their games closely to see if it's scheme, players, or what. I've casually observed them and that's it.
If anyone has watched them closer, looked at film, etc., I'd be interested to know what is going on. Is he really just getting out coached or are his players making dumb mistakes?